Poll: 8 year old Botox girl taken into care

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Stickwell

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jakko12345 said:
I actually thought nothing would happen, being America and all (no offense American escapists). And yeah i'm glad it's been resolved.
You really thought that because we are Americans that nothing would have come of this?
I don't think your view on 'MERICA is correct.
'MERICA! YEAH!!!!
 

theultimateend

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2.4% of the pollers are apparently psychotic.

"Yes I think its cool to inject my children with toxins."

MaxPowers666 said:
"It's not illegal to inject a child with Botox in the US as it can be used to treat certain medical conditions, including neurological disorders."

See not illegal. Now you may say that that is a loophole in the law and you would most likely be right but its still perfectly legal. You can call it immoral if you want but thats really only your opinion even if many others are of a like mind as you.
Did the child have any of those medical conditions?

I can't inject you with morphine for jollies, just because it is legal in very strict cases doesn't mean I can run around with a needle poking family members.
 

smearyllama

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There are not enough syllables in yes.
If a mother is really willing to inject her daughter with Botox to try to make her perfect, then where will it stop?
Cybernetic augmentations?
 

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Knusper said:
Isn't Botox like toxic? The lengths some people go to...
Yeah, it's a neurotoxin derived from harmful bacteria.  Hell, the word "Botox" is an abbreviated version of "botulinum toxin."

It does have some medical usages, true. But I'd really like to see this mom prove that the kid had any of the conditions that it's used to treat.
 

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yes, that woman is just living her unfulfilled dreams through her daughter, and this little girl should not have to suffer due to her mother's mediocrity and selfishness.
 

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lobster1077 said:
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lobster1077 said:
Think about it rationally for a moment, botox is a potent neurotoxin, the mother effectively risked her daughter's life to improve the girl's chances of winning a pageant. Perhaps she perceived the injections to be beneficial to her daughter, but that's flimsy justification if you consider the risks.
She did what she thought was best for her daugher. She was worried that her daughter might end up like her. She cares deeply for the child and tried to do anything in her mind to help her not end up in a deadbeat job like herself. What she did to the child was wrong but separating the child from the parents should be a last resort.
To reiterate. If someone injects poison into the face of their child, no matter what their justification they shouldn't have custody of said child.

I've already made my point a couple of times already. If you are unwilling to address it then there is no reason for us to continue this discussion.
 

Evil Moo

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Ah it's nice to have some positive follow-up to a depressing story like this. Thanks for posting it.

And yeah, my opinion matches that of most people here:

1. Injecting potentially lethal toxins into the face of your own child is a clear demonstration that you are not fit to be a parent.

2. The mother must have something wrong with her to even think that an 8 year old has wrinkles, never mind thinking that getting rid of them is so important that she feels the need to inject her with Botox.

3. Child beauty pageants are distasteful enough to me, without the added extremes that this mother has apparently derived from it.
 

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Stickwell said:
jakko12345 said:
I actually thought nothing would happen, being America and all (no offense American escapists). And yeah i'm glad it's been resolved.
You really thought that because we are Americans that nothing would have come of this?
I don't think your view on 'MERICA is correct.
'MERICA! YEAH!!!!
Shouldn't that be: 'MERICA- FUCK YEAH!!1!
And I do hear a lot of horror stories about the justice system over there. Not to mention the medical system... so he does have a point.

OT: Yes, its a good thing that the child got taken away. I wouldn't be surprised if that kid ends up with some fairly major psychological problems because of this. A lot of pageant kids do, even under more 'normal' circumstances.
 

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If the mother had no idea what she was doing or the kid didn't want it at all you'd have a case, but as it stands I see nothing wrong with it. People will be people.
 

lobster1077

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I've already made my point a couple of times already. If you are unwilling to address it then there is no reason for us to continue this discussion.[/quote]

Ok, I see your point, in that she was in her mind trying to help her daughter. I just find the injection of a potent neurotoxin into a kid to be quite unbecoming of a parent.
 

SmilingWorlock

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I oppose to this child beauty contest in general. Children are put under extreme pressure and suffer, often just to be a trophy to their mothers, who wish they were beauty queens, or what ever. Exposing a child to that is always bad parenting.
 

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Well the American child foster system has to be better than a mother who has you stuck with toxins for vanity reasons.

Its not enough to restore my faith in "good" humanity though.
 

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someonehairy-ish said:
Stickwell said:
jakko12345 said:
I actually thought nothing would happen, being America and all (no offense American escapists). And yeah i'm glad it's been resolved.
You really thought that because we are Americans that nothing would have come of this?
I don't think your view on 'MERICA is correct.
'MERICA! YEAH!!!!
Shouldn't that be: 'MERICA- FUCK YEAH!!1!
And I do hear a lot of horror stories about the justice system over there. Not to mention the medical system... so he does have a point.

OT: Yes, its a good thing that the child got taken away. I wouldn't be surprised if that kid ends up with some fairly major psychological problems because of this. A lot of pageant kids do, even under more 'normal' circumstances.
Well, I've heard stories of in-justice from plenty of countries... But you should have figured that something with that much media coverage would get taken care of.
OT: I see nothing wrong with this lady getting her kid taken away.
 

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smearyllama said:
There are not enough syllables in yes.
If a mother is really willing to inject her daughter with Botox to try to make her perfect, then where will it stop?
Cybernetic augmentations?
What about the modification of Genes?

Oh... that reminds me of a video game character...

 

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Bigfootmech said:
If the mother had no idea what she was doing or the kid didn't want it at all you'd have a case, but as it stands I see nothing wrong with it. People will be people.
You really think that eight is old enough to consent to have a purely cosmetic treatment which can if you're unlucky lead to serious medical issues or even in rare cases death, just for a stupid beauty contest?
 

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RAKtheUndead said:
She injected a neurotoxin into her daughter's face.


Is it deadly?


Anwyays, I'm surprised the kid doesn't look worse. I'm vhemenently against child beauty contests, THOSE should be outlawed, not weed.
 

Lilani

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I think it is a good decision. Clearly the mother did not have the child's safety in mind and did not think it through. Not only could the chemicals do harm to a girl that small, but also her face would be messed up when she goes through puberty and her baby fat goes away. Seriously, I hope the reverse all of those injections ASAP, or at least do something. She should not have to go through life permanently altered because her mom channeled her own insecurities to her.
 

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Many people may forget that Botox is a contraction of "Botulism Toxin".

I can sympathise with women of a certain age (not 8, think 5 times older) who might take some steps to reduce wrinkles because society does set what I think is an unreasonable standard on women. Men can have a few wrinkles and be seen as sexy (Pierce Brosnan you devil you).

It's clear this obsession with smooth skin has defied all reason or objectivity if it favours a paralysed face.

One thing I find most attractive about a woman is a warm and genuine smile... even if with some laughter lines.

This injecting into children is the ultimate extreme, losing all track of what beauty actually is. Beauty is not skin deep, remember that 50-impressions video, how feminine that guy looked just by acting like a girl and lip syncing with a woman... he switched from looking like Seth Roegen to more like Winona Ryder with a stick-on beard!
 

FamoFunk

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Yes it was the right thing to do!
It was child abuse, how anyone can think it's an ok thing to do to a child is off their head.