Poll: Abortion : Should men get a say?

[DagothNereviar]

I was rather pleased with my opinion tbh (egotistical, spell?, i know, but still xD)

But, simply put, I think case-by-case, depending on who did want it, who didn't, and who's had to go through what for the others benefit depends on who gets what.

 

[Mewick_Alex]

Had a similar scare with my girlfriend a few years ago, my stance on this is firmly on the side of "it's her body, so it's her choice".

Sure, I'm happy to thrash out the pros and cons of having a kid or aborting it, but I certainly wouldn't attempt to influence her decision one way or the other.

 

[Wayne Insane]

It's a straight no for me, sorry.While the Father's opinion should play a part in the Choice, in the End the Mother should decide what she does with her womb.But I think If the father is completely for the abortion and from the start says he doesn't want the Child it shouldn't be forced on him.You know, let him go, don't force him to pay 18 years for something he clearely rejected from the very beginning.But if he knew that she wasn't using any contraceptives and he still plowed her without a condom and then rejects the offspring it's his fault and he should be held responsible.But the abortion should be the mothers choice alone.

Man,that's really hard to answer.

 

[Jumplion]

If one day I screwed up in more ways then one, and I end up with a pregnant girl next to me whether I know her or not, I would want a say in how to deal with the child.

I'm not for or against abortion, it's a delicate matter to deal with and the woman should be able to choose what she wants with her body.

But if I end up knocking up a girl, I want a say in how to deal with it. I don't want to be tossed out of the equation because I'm the man. A certain episode of a TV show I watch comes to mind (ohhh, TV, do you ever disapoint?), the character said that during High School he accidentally got a girl pregnant, but the thing is he never even knew it happened. Then the girl came up to him, told him she was pregnant, but then said "Don't worry, I took care of it", meaning she got an abortion. He had no say at all, he was just dust in the wind, and whether or not he wanted the kid or an abortion, he still didn't get a single word in before it was "taken care of".

As the man, I at least want my opinion put in the hat, I don't want to be tossed aside just because it all centers around the woman.

Of course, it could all depend on the situation. If the girl tricked me into giving her my "dogs of war" for the reason of wanting to get pregnant, I'd personally classify that as rape and either make her get an abortion or go to court and settle on custody and crap. Sounds harsh, but if you make me a father when I don't want to be one (yet) then I don't want to be one.

 

[S-Unleashed]

Yes men should have a say.

 

[Pandalisk]

The man has a say? no no more like like he is an advisor, in the end the woman will do what she wants, you just get to offer and opinion and hop to god she agrees with you.

That's called "having a say".

It's not to be confused with "having the final word."

"Having a say" implies that your words will have impact on the person, it, in most circumstances, wont.

 

[veloper]

The ultimate decision should be the woman's.

Since abortion is a boolean, that also implies men should get no say in the matter.

 

[gigastrike]

I say no. Then again, I don't think the woman should get a say either.

 

[esperandote]

men should have a say on not having an abortion not the other way. the again, i think nobody should have the option of aborting for having sex while not being ready to mantain a child in case the counterconception methods fails.

 

[Kyprioth]

I'm sick of people defending the status quo without logic using the reason "Life isn't meant to be fair."

Perhaps it isn't. Indeed, some individuals are given a head start with rich parents, while others are given no parents. However, the law is meant to be fair. The orphan and the rich heiress should get the same amount of jail time for the same crime.

That said, it's her body, so it's her choice. And choices bring forth consequences, good and bad. The man should not be forced to pay for (to put it bluntly) the parasite she wishes to keep in her stomach. He should have two choices in these cases.

A) Pay child support, and be allowed to visit for his funding.

B) Choose to not pay, and have no visitation rights to his child.

 

[Pandalisk]

The ultimate decision should be the woman's.

BECAUSE WOMEN NEVER DO ANYTHING BAD AMIRITE?

Since abortion is a boolean, that also implies men should get no say in the matter.

Sorry, but that line of thinking stopped being fair when women were no longer expected to stay barefoot and pregnant.

A woman has the right to say "no" when a man wants to have sex. The man has the right to say "no" when a woman wants to have children with him.

If a man uses a condom and the woman--for whatever reason--ends up pregnant, how is that his fault? They don't have a working male contraceptive yet, so our only other options are vasectomy or not having sex--which is easy for women to advocate, since they aren't exactly known to have significant testosterone levels.

"Having a say" implies that your words will have impact on the person, it, in most circumstances, wont.

No, "having a say" means you get to have some input. Not all women do whatever the fuck they want, and, in fact, many actually do consider what their boyfriends/husbands say on the subject.

men should have a say on not having an abortion not the other way. the again, i think nobody should have the option of aborting for having sex while not being ready to mantain a child in case the counterconception methods fails.

Just because you owe your life to that kind of thinking doesn't make it right.

They are the ideal relationships, If a womans made up her mind then shes generally made up her mind, regardless of if she loves you alot or not, Religion or personal ethics will be a person in "most" cases be the persons "foundation" if you will.

Your relationship must be very good indeed to have words that hold sway over a persons ethics and morals.

i find the words that i have once heard show this, "You Cant Change Me"

our Morals and ethics help make us, if say like abortion and you oppose it, people will find it hard to listen to anything but their person Ethics on the matter, if a womans ethics conflicts with yours then you will have a hard time changing their mind on the matter.

This isnt limited to Women ethier, imagine a woman wants you to get a vasectomy, i would Fight tooth and nail for my "partners in crime", and any man who cringes at the thought of vasectomy will understand what i mean when i say that with things like these, you might as well be talking to a brick wall

 

[Shycte]

It depends if they are planning to keep it or not. If the mom want a abortion but the male doesn't she should not be allowed to make a abortion. However, the mom should not need to pay any kind of money or have any legal obligations to the child.

Why? Because if they didn'y want a child they should have used a condom. Simple as that.

Action and consequens.

 

[wewontdie11]

Under 99% of cases the man will have to either raise, support or pay alimony to the child and it is composed of half of his genetic material so yes. Definitely yes.

 

[GonzoGamer]

I don't exactly like abortion and would've been opposed to any past girlfriend getting one but I've always resigned myself to the fact that it wouldn't be my decision to make.
Having a child is a completely different experience for a woman.

 

[veloper]

The ultimate decision should be the woman's.

BECAUSE WOMEN NEVER DO ANYTHING BAD AMIRITE?

No, because only the woman has to go through pregnancy.

Since abortion is a boolean, that also implies men should get no say in the matter.

Sorry, but that line of thinking stopped being fair when women were no longer expected to stay barefoot and pregnant.

A woman has the right to say "no" when a man wants to have sex. The man has the right to say "no" when a woman wants to have children with him.

If a man uses a condom and the woman--for whatever reason--ends up pregnant, how is that his fault?

It isn't.
However, I believe should not be the man's problem either:
While women should determine what happens in their own bellies, men should have the right to renounce any bastard during a short period after they find out about the pregnancy and not pay any child support.