Poll: Abraham Lincoln: the greatest human ever?
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No...not at all he ordered the attacks on Southern Civilians and ordered the burning of innocent citizen's homes and property.Scarecrow 8 said:
I'm not sure if this is sarcasm, as there are a lot of "Jesus myth" theorists around here, but I believe he was a real person (while I don't believe the mythology of miracles and virgin birth and such).Glademaster said:
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The best person who ever lived may well be considered a horrible demon by modern world history, or maybe history has simply overlooked them. Why? History favors the victors- not the great.
Also rather funny since Jesus was never actually called Jesus.2012 Wont Happen said:
His original name was translated into latin and changed completely, and then became Jesus in the western chronology. So anyone who says that a Mr. Jesus appeared on the 00 AD register is pretty much full of it.
I believe he was referring to this sectionZombieGenesis said:
As for greatest human being ever, I'd say my girlfriend...
But then again, I'm sure many would say the same
How would many people know how great your Mrs is? I know what your trying to say but it could be inferred that she is a "bit of a goer" from that line!
Not really. There are other people to consider first. Plato, Socrates, Issac newton, Tesla, Einstein, Ghandi, me, Doug TenNapel, Gary Gygax, Steven Hawking, me, Keiji Infuane, Jesus (if you wish to follow the Christian pattern of thought otherwise not Jesus), Al Gore (he invented the internet and something about moon worms fighting Man-Bear-Pig), me, Hideo Kojima, Buddha (if you follow the Bhuddist blah blah blah), Muhammed (etc.), Lord Dracula, me, and anyone else of note that I left out foe the sake of them being less comical than others.
I don't claim that his name in Hebrew was Jesus. However, I do believe that there was somebody that the people who wrote the Bible followed around who told some metaphorical stories about Socialistic ideals and who had a developed messiah complex, who perhaps thought he was the son of God. I don't believe that he really was the son of God though, or that there even is a God. I do agree with what he said though.ZombieGenesis said:
Ho-oh! I get it now, very good, very good.electric discordian said:
Of course I meant that many would say the same about their own girlfriends, but as far as I know, my own hasn't been around the block much. And that's exactly why I keep her on a leash, to prevent such concerns.
Wilberforce trumps Lincoln by essentially bringing about the end of the slave trade. He's still massively well known and admired in places like Senegal. Sure Lincoln may have had a big impact on people in America. Wilberforce, however, changed the world!
Also the greatest Humans ever are likley to be unknown. People who have dedicated their entire lives to helping others and never asked anything in return.
Also the greatest Humans ever are likley to be unknown. People who have dedicated their entire lives to helping others and never asked anything in return.
I quite agree, that is very possible. I wouldn't deny that such a person could well have existed, it wasn't even so long ago that a music star...I forget who, but someone might be able to remind me, came forward and claimed to be the son of god himself.2012 Wont Happen said:
It would be nice if the ideals of religion weren't corruptable, but we don't live in a perfect world.
No. He's been a bit too sugar-coated by the history books you read growing up until the fact that he wasn't the completely altruistic messiah of the oppressed African American becomes pretty disenchanting. He did some good things but not always for the reasons you'd like to believe.
That said, I'd put my vote in for Franklin Delano Roosevelt. In the tradition of George Washington, he was one of those great leaders who really didn't want the job, and though some of his major policy decisions detracted from democracy, they ultimately saved a nation from a Depression and the world from fascism. He died in the line of duty, like any frontline soldier in the war.
Sweet of you to give a shoutout to your GF on a site she'd probably never visit, but there's not much call for that on a non-relationship thread.
That said, I'd put my vote in for Franklin Delano Roosevelt. In the tradition of George Washington, he was one of those great leaders who really didn't want the job, and though some of his major policy decisions detracted from democracy, they ultimately saved a nation from a Depression and the world from fascism. He died in the line of duty, like any frontline soldier in the war.
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Sweet of you to give a shoutout to your GF on a site she'd probably never visit, but there's not much call for that on a non-relationship thread.
The greatest man on Earth was Jesus or Buddha. Maybe they both where the best men on the earth.
The best US president to me is Teddy Roosevelt.
The best US president to me is Teddy Roosevelt.