Poll: Am I a Bad Person?

[darksakul]

For all who called the OP a bad person for what he said are failing to realize 3 things.

1. He has no responsibility to offer money, kind words or any part of this matter.
OP has no social, moral or legal obligations to do or say anything, he said his peace of mind,and last I check people have the right to expresses them selves. As many of you expressing that you think that the OP is a bad person. Also being a jerk is not a crime, Drinking and Driving is.
2. The fact that this whole thing bothers him enough to talk to others.
3. if any one else was there while those girls where drinking, why didn't they stop their friends from playing Russian roulette with driving drunk with snow on the roads.

I had love ones who were injured in car accidents, I was hurt in a accident my self.
The person I would have given money to (if I gave any) would be the victims of others who got hurt because of the stupid foolishness of those 3 girls.

 

[Denamic]

If they went out driving while drunk, it's their own damn fault.
I knew someone who was killed by a drunk driver.
They don't deserve any compassion whatsoever.
Better them than a bystander.

 

[Lazier Than Thou]

I got a lot of dirty looks and i was told i was being selfish. Does this mean im a jerk or would you have done the same?

It is not your responsibility for what happen or their well being. Nor is was it your responsibility to "baby-sit" three dumb and drunken teenage girls. You were a little to "direct" in answering truthfully, but THE TRUTH HURTS in this situation. The bad ones in this situation are the ones who did nothing to stop the girls from drinking and driving in the first place (especially in the snow). You should of asked their friends, where were they, and if they were with them why in God's name they did nothing to stop their friends from getting hurt and killed.

Honestly I would of told the friends of those girls to "Where the hell you, why didn't you stop them when you had the chance"? followed by a "get lost, it is none of my concern".

So jerks and assholes aren't bad people? So what, pray tell, would be a bad person if not a jerk or an asshole?

The People (the girls so called friends) who stood by doing nothing as their friends got drunk and killed, and the OP is the Bad one?

Being a jerk is not a crime or a sin, sitting by as you let some one throw their life away is.

There was no question as to the goodness/badness of the girls. This is about the OP, not the girls. If we want to talk about the girls, we can talk about the girls. The problem is that this isn't a related or relative thing. If the OP is a bad person, the girls can still be bad people too.

Also, my question did not assume any morality whatsoever. It was a question of what makes a person bad, if not being a jerk or an asshole. I submit that being a jerk or an asshole DOES make you a bad person. Bad is as bad does. Jerks and assholes do bad things, ergo...

 

[Artina89]

No I don't think that you are necesssarily a bad person, it's just that there is a time and a place for everything and saying that they are stupid for driving drunk on icy roads to the friend/family member's face was just a tad insensitive. I am not saying that you are wrong, and I am not saying that you should donate, but you just maybe offer your condolences or something. If they came over to me I would say "I'm sorry, but I don't have any money right now" or something.

 

[DannibalG36]

I would have done absolutely the same thing.

 

[Warped_Ghost]

Well your not wrong but you might have let here down easier.
Just because your right doesn't mean you have to add insult to injury.

 

[darksakul]

To your "where the hell were you?" you don't think that the girl going around trying to raise money for her critically ill friends wouldn't be asking herself that all the time? If she was there, this would be a very tactless question and if she wasn't it would be even worse.

There are levels of being a jerk, telling someone that their recently deceased friend is an idiot and following it up with telling them they should have been there is way up there. You might as well tell her you wish she'd been with them so she'd stop bothering you.
This is kind of a response to most of this thread, yes drink driving on ice isn't a good idea, but the lack of compassion shown by the majority of people in this thread is staggering.

Hey atleast I cleaned up my language first, what i would of said IRL would have been full of F Bombs, when you have people hurt or lost in an accident caused by a drunk driver you not have pity on the foolish. Look someone square in the eyes who's love one was lost because of the foolishness of a drunkard and tell them you pity the driver. Go ahead, I will wait.... You be lucky if they only slap you in the face.

 

[LitleWaffle]

Okay, while your stand on the situation makes perfect sense, by how you declined you made yourself look like a bad person.

The thing you should have probably said was "Sorry, I can't". Or at least something more subtle or give a more gentle excuse even if it isn't true.

Yes, their idiots and yes, your right. But you don't have to smack their stupidity right in their faces.

 

[TheEndlessSleep]

Does this mean im a jerk or would you have done the same?

I would say they probably deserved it for being so stupid, but maybe it would have been tactful to be more polite up front to the friend and withhold your reasoning for not donating to the idiots.

That way, when they call you selfish they are making unprovoked accusations, and you aren't in the wrong.

 

[Mcface]

The endangered the lives of countless people.
THEY are the selfish ones.

 

[Mcface]

So this Tuesday 3 girls went drunk driving at 11 AM and crashed. 1 died 2 are in a coma. One of there friends came around asking for a donation to help pay there medical bills. I declined and said if theyre dumb enough to go drunk driving at 11 in the morning on a snowday when the roads are bad then they can face the consequence and pay for it themselves. I got a lot of dirty looks and i was told i was being selfish. Does this mean im a jerk or would you have done the same?

You are a horrific nightmare of a douche bag.

Not wrong though.

Why is he?
They could have killed any number of innocent people because they were too foolish to stay in.

 

[BioHazardMan]

It was totally warranted, if people are stupid enough to go drunk driving they need to take the consequences.

 

[MindBullets]

I don't blame you much for thinking they deserved what they got. Stupid as it was, though, there's no real call to be a dick about it. There rarely is about anything, especially when serious injuries and death are involved.

Just a small donation, having at least a bit of sympathy, would probably have been the best course of action. It's not like you're paying the whole bill for them.

 

[moretimethansense]

Also, my question did not assume any morality whatsoever. It was a question of what makes a person bad, if not being a jerk or an asshole. I submit that being a jerk or an asshole DOES make you a bad person. Bad is as bad does. Jerks and assholes do bad things, ergo...

Being a jerk does not automatically make you a bad person, I am most definatly a jerk, an arrogant, argumentitive one at that, yet I give to charity when I can, I help people when asked, I give a sympathetic ear to my freinds and family no matter how shit I feel at the time, and I would both kill and die to protect someone that didn't deserve to suffer.

But I tell people to their face that their stupid family could have killed someone and as such don't deserve my sympathy or my money and I'M a bad person?!

As you said actions determine if you are a "good" or "bad" person, but words are not action, feelings are not action.

Hell I dissagree that actions determine you deserved place on the karma meter but tyhat's a discussion for a different thread.

 

[crudus]

Are you a bad person? no
Are you a tactless person? yes.

 

[babinro]

So this Tuesday 3 girls went drunk driving at 11 AM and crashed. 1 died 2 are in a coma. One of there friends came around asking for a donation to help pay there medical bills. I declined and said if theyre dumb enough to go drunk driving at 11 in the morning on a snowday when the roads are bad then they can face the consequence and pay for it themselves. I got a lot of dirty looks and i was told i was being selfish. Does this mean im a jerk or would you have done the same?

I'd say you are rude and handled the situation extremely poorly...but not necessarily wrong or bad. You simply heartlessly expressed your valid opinion without care of the feelings of those around you.

 

[darksakul]

"You may be right but don't say it out loud"

This is whats wrong with society now (globally), every one too scared to voice their opinions over bull-shit social nicety and political correctness. Which I must add by definition political correctness is a contradiction of terms since it trades the rights of one person for the comfort of another.

 

[Sennz0r]

It's the 1 death that makes it complicated. In the case of the two girls in he hospital you are completely in your right to not help pay for their medical bill. First off, they were drunk driving. Second, if they don't have insurance to cover their ass while they go out and do stupid things, why should you have to pay for it directly? Unless of course they can't afford insurance but that still leaves the matter of being dumb enough to drive drunk without insurance.

Now if they were collecting money to help the family pay for the funeral because they can't afford a nice service for example, you better pay up. Only reason to not gie money would be to teach someone a lesson: Doing stupid shit does not mean strangers will just bail you out. A dead person can't learn that lesson. If you wouldn't pony up for funeral money you'd be pure evil. Now you're just an ass who has his head on straight.