Poll: Am I a Bad Person?

[teebeeohh]

well you are right but you are still a bad person, if you were a truly good person you wouldn't ask this question but in your self righteousnesses would just assume you were right

 

[icame]

I wouldn't say so. You didn't really handle the situation well though. The girls were being idiots, and they payed for it. I would much rather give my money to somebody who had no control over what happened to them.

 

[rutger5000]

Honestly there are limits to stupidity. Yes a good person also pities a fool for the trouble he/she caused himself. But this just crosses the line. Those girls really brought this on themselves. What's more they deserve punishment. Now they crashed into a tree, but they could just as well have crashed into a bus full of schoolchildren. Acts like these count to me as attempt of dead by fault (I know this term does not exists, but you can see what I mean.) I'm not a fan of execution, but yeah if those girls knowingly and willingly risked the lives of themselves and others and wound up in a coma during the process. Then that isn't something to pity, that's karma.
Shortly put:
A fool decides to risk his/her own life and gets hurt in the process => give pity and help
A fool decides to risks his/her own life and that of others and gets hurt in the process => give no shit.
Everybody is free to disagree, but you must see some logic here.

 

[William Dickbringer]

you were right but in that situation I would have kept my mouth shut for the better and said no and make up some excuse like "I'm low on money" or something like that

 

[Jester00]

Lol, I read the story, then answered the poll as if you were right to do it, so i accidentally hit yes XD

26 people failed like you, cause i think nobody would REALLY hit yes

 

[Zaverexus]

Honestly I don't think you're wrong, but when something ends that severely I think a little reverence is due. When and if they recover, they deserve to be told just how stupid they were, if they don't already know from that experience.
You can't learn from your mistakes if you die.

 

[s0p0g]

post #2 said "meh theres a time and place for honesty. this doesnt seem to be it, however"

i'd like to differ. that is exactly it. i did the same in a similar situation. i'd tell them why i don't give a single cent; don't make any excuses, stand up for what you think! *thumbs up*

collecting/giving money for such people is like applauding them for their stupidity, and we, as civilized people, value inner qualities such as intelligence and responsibility, over superficial things like looks, sympathy & pity (for these horrible, horrible accidents none could have foreseen... oh, wait) etc.
thus, we disregard the opposite of that: stupidity, recklessness, irresponsibility, losing control of oneself, etc. those traits cannot be rewarded.

and the only people being selfish are those asking for money, because they do it for feeling better; not for the sake of those poor, poor drunk girls driving on icey roads who then strangely ended up in a road ditch.

 

[monkey_man]

I agree with a lot of chums and chummettes here.
If you are stupid enough to get yourself killed/in a coma, atleast take the consequences like an idiot. Because that is what you are if that happens.
You are no bad person.
You are a sane person

 

[Sethzard]

I don't think anyone deserves death, but I don't think that donations should be asked for to pay their bills when the money could go to better thengs.

 

[cocoadog]

Not in my book. Hell I would have asked for a donation... As in all there stuff. HA! Don't drink and drive.

 

[Mstrswrd]

So this Tuesday 3 girls went drunk driving at 11 AM and crashed. 1 died 2 are in a coma. One of there friends came around asking for a donation to help pay there medical bills. I declined and said if theyre dumb enough to go drunk driving at 11 in the morning on a snowday when the roads are bad then they can face the consequence and pay for it themselves. I got a lot of dirty looks and i was told i was being selfish. Does this mean im a jerk or would you have done the same?

While you're not a bad person (I would have thought much the same thing), I wouldn't have said it. It's in bad taste, even though it's true.

Actually, one of my classmates died due to his own stupidity (a car accident that ended up with him in many, many pieces on a highway), and though I refused to give it the time of day (seriously, I just read Manga that day because even the teachers were depressed), I still kept my mouth shut.

 

[Diligent]

No, you're not a bad person. In fact, I find it absurd that they would call YOU selfish.
Who was the selfish one, really, drinking and driving in bad weather with no thought for the consequences those actions might have on themselves or anybody else around them?

What are you supposed to be donating to anyway? Is your money supposed to get these girls out of a coma faster?

 

[Dimensional Vortex]

Lol, I read the story, then answered the poll as if you were right to do it, so i accidentally hit yes XD

Hell no, they did get what they deserved whether it be more or less

Wow really? One really deserves to die and the other two deserve to be in a coma for drink driving? You don't know them, maybe they would have all led great fulfilling lives, maybe they had just gotten into a great University to become doctors or something else and contribute to society. But I guess none of that matters since they drove a car while drinking alcoholic substances. Imagine if your mother was in a come if she had had a car crash due to alcohol, and you told someone what happened and they said it was stupid of her and she deserves to either die or be in a coma, you would feel so angry against whoever said that hurtful thing.

Back on topic. I don't think you're a bad person, I just think you could have acted better and shown some decorum. You could have politely apologized and said that you won't pay, instead of making yourself look selfish and insensitive. But then I really don't know, perhaps you act like that all the time and if you do then your not a BAD person, your more of a punk.

 

[dagens24]

So this Tuesday 3 girls went drunk driving at 11 AM and crashed. 1 died 2 are in a coma. One of there friends came around asking for a donation to help pay there medical bills. I declined and said if theyre dumb enough to go drunk driving at 11 in the morning on a snowday when the roads are bad then they can face the consequence and pay for it themselves. I got a lot of dirty looks and i was told i was being selfish. Does this mean im a jerk or would you have done the same?

It doesn't make you a bad person, just kind of an asshole. Life isn't black and white, we've all made mistakes. Pretty sure the memory of their dead friend will haunt them forever, I think that's punishment enough.

 

[Mr. Google]

You know, there are a lot of reasons for which most of us find the actions of the people of the Westboro Baptist Church (the guys who protest military funerals) disgusting, but probably one of the most disgusting things they do, is act without sensitivity towards the feelings of those who are grieving the loss of a loved one. So let me ask a question here, what have you really done? By saying what you said, have you prevented someone else from drunk driving? Have you saved any lives? Have you changed anything for the better?

Or have you just told someone who is probably grieving the loss of someone that they cared for, that the person who died, and the other two who were in a coma, was stupid?

I don't think you are a bad person. I've said more than my share of stupid insensitive things that I came to later regret. You have said something terribly insensitive to someone who is in a lot of pain. At the time, maybe you thought you were just standing up for what you thought was right. That's understandable. But as you think over it some more, I imagine that you'll come to really regret what you've done. You're asking if you're a good person, because you already know that what you did was wrong. You already know that what you said doesn't make anything better, it only makes someone else feel worse.

If the girls who are in comas live, they'll have to carry the burden of their actions with them for the rest of their lives. We've all listened to someone talk who was drunk driving and killed someone. They NEVER get to forget what they did. They already know. Their loved ones already know.

You don't have to give to help them. In all honesty, I might not have given either. But saying that they're stupid to the people dealing with the loss, saying that they deserved it. That's immature, and it does nothing but cause more harm.

I drink alone some nights, and think about the stupid things I've said that hurt others, think about how much I regret saying what I said, and how much I wish I could change it, even though I can't. I imagine I'm not the only one. And if I were a betting man, I'd bet that the time will come when you'll drink at night and think about what you said too.

I seriously have to commend you for this message. Like really i swear there is no sarcasm in this. It was probably the single most mature thing i have seen on the internet in the past 8 years of me using it. I actually think i understand now. In all honesty i wasn't trying to let the girl hear it. she left to go to another table and i thought i said it quite enough but i didnt back down when i noticed she heard me. I know that im generally a good person it just pissed me off when i got called an asshole when i view it as these girls who are causing unnecessary pain to their loved one to be the terrible people. And that because i dont feel its a good cause to give money to people who don't deserve it. I was just honest enough to say it. Id rather people hate me for the truth than to like me for my lies.

 

[Mr. Google]

No, you're not a bad person. In fact, I find it absurd that they would call YOU selfish.
Who was the selfish one, really, drinking and driving in bad weather with no thought for the consequences those actions might have on themselves or anybody else around them?

What are you supposed to be donating to anyway? Is your money supposed to get these girls out of a coma faster?

Medical bills from what i was told.

 

[Captain Pirate]

That doesn't make you really a bad person, at least in my opinion, still shouldn't have spoken your mind though.
They may have been stupid, utterly stupid, but still, two are in a coma and one died.
Not as much 'bad person' as 'areshole'.

Never say something like that on the subject of death, no matter how right you are.
I do agree with you; they were stupid. And I probably wouldn't pay, but I'd make some excuse not to pay, rather than say 'No, they were dumb as shit for doing so.', simply to not upset the person.
All the friend asking for money has done is try and help her friends.
I know I'd do the same for mine, even if they did do something so downright idiotic.

 

[Mr. Meslier]

It's pretty easy to judge them when all you know about them is that they were driving drunk and got in an accident. If that's all you've got to characterize them, then yeah it does seem like they deserve what they got.

However, each survivor will have to live with the fact that her recklessness got one of her friends killed, and other in a coma. Driving drunk is reckless, but should you pay for it with your life? Should your entire life revolve around one drunken moment? If not, then is it fair to consider their fate a sort of poetic justice? Is apathy justified if the other person deserved it?

Also, the need for money for medical aid isn't so much for the girls themselves, but for their families.

Overall, I think you made a justified decision but for the wrong reasons. Retribution is an ugly thing.

 

[Ice Car]

You may be right, but don't say it out loud or say it without slapping the "truth" in their face like that, it's rude and I might call you a bad person for that.