Poll: Americans as the bad guys

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MrJKapowey

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Axolotl said:
You mean like Modern Warfare 2?
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Modern Warfare 2 had an American as the actual main antagonist. He used his AMERICAN troops against you.
Not really, in MW2 the 'American' enemies are supposed to be either a black ops unit working for Lt Gen Shepard and no one else, or a PMC he has hired to do his bidding. Either way they aren't the American armed forces arrayed against you, just some twisted dick 'ead and his mooks.
 

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Because that's like having organ-donor charity workers as the bad guys: It just doesn't make sense.
 

Zaik

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Prototype already did it.

Also so did Half Life.

And I'm sure someone else but nothing I can think of.

Anyway, if it was actually a good game and wasn't all like "Here's Americans as bad guys, look how controversial I am!", I'd probably play it. But chances are that you aren't actually talking about that, seeing as there are already games that have portrayed some or all of the branches of the US Military as your adversaries.

I'm guessing you're talking about some sort of faceless, mindless evil guys that all wear masks and have PROPERTY OF AMERICA slapped on their foreheads and asses. No, that's dumb and pointless.
 

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Obviously it would depend on the reasons. If I'm playing a Russian invading America, it better be because they were taken over by an evil dictator or something along those lines. Nobody is going to want to fight against something they have no quarrel with.
If I'm playing as a Russian invading modern-day America then I would not enjoy it because I wouldn't be able to become immersed with the character I am playing as.
 

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lacktheknack said:
How about not demonizing an entire country, or just taking the Civilization approach?
Controversy creates sensationalism. Sensationalism sells.
Therefore, controversy sells.

One-dimensional "good vs evil" plots are shallow anyway; there are no real winners in war, just those who lost less.
 

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Zaik said:
I'm guessing you're talking about some sort of faceless, mindless evil guys that all wear masks and have PROPERTY OF AMERICA slapped on their foreheads and asses. No, that's dumb and pointless.
Actually, that sounds kind of funny. It would be like seeing "made in Taiwann" stamped onto the side of every enemy you fight like they're #2 pencils or cheap plastic toys.
 

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Cracker3011 said:
Since we are all sick to death of russians/terrorists/russian terrorists being the villains in pretty much every modern warfare-type game released in the past 5 years or so, I got to thinking, why doesn't any studio take the risk of making the world's most powerful country the enemy, beyond the occasional level or two? Even as simple as a reverse Red Dawn (with the eeeevil capitalists invading the peace-loving communists... or something) would make a change from shooting people with a foriegn accent.
Plenty of games have depicted Americans as the villains, as individuals. But these days it's hard to sell an entire country as bad-guys. If the English are the villains of uncharted games it's as individuals, not like the crown has dispatched a unit from her majesty's royal underworld goon squadron and even then you have a friendly Brit along for the ride. In respect to the Russians, many games even have Russian good guys, like Splinter Cell's Kestrel, to help balance out the number of villains you face.
 

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Would be a nice touch. Maybe an honest portrayal of the American drug war in Colombia or what we did in Cuba? Not exactly difficult, just make it BioShock on dry land. Some of America's capitalist policies are callous to the point that there are some politicians i swear would sell their own kidney to a Chinese restaurant if they got a good price.
 

emeraldrafael

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I wouldnt mind. I'm American, and I wouldnt care really. The only thing with that is that it would help the image that Americans are evil and want to take over the world, and people wouldnt distinguish reality from fiction.
 

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Let me break it down:

One of the U.S.'s major defining traits is its free market.

One of the free market's major defining traits is giant corporations.

One of giant corporation's major defining traits is ultimately being money-making systems first and foremost.

So, if you have ever seen any game of any type where a big business screws little people over in the name of money by causing a zombie outbreak or brainwashing the masses to buy a product or ANYthing like that, you have seen the U.S. as the bad guys, metaphorically if not literally.

We'd probably have more games about U.S. imperialism, too, if those conquests weren't all extremely dated by this time.
 

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An American was the main antagonist in MW2.
I think the OP means that the entire United States should be an enemy, which would make for a stupid game.
 

LadyMint

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I don't really play war games so I don't care. I just know that it would need to be handled with serious gloves because, as others have already said, there would be one hell of an uproar.

I think if it focused on some terrorist group that was American but not affiliated with the government, that might work. Especially if the hero side works with the American army to take on the group.
 

Ca3zar416

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It would be an interesting idea. Probably some crazy alternate history stuff. Also I'd give props to them if they did it and stuck to it. It would be a good declaration of "We are just as serious as any other medium, you will not treat us like we are simply toys for children."
 

Assassin Xaero

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If you mean making a game where the American government/military goes imperialistic and goes after everyone and our the bad guys? I would buy that even if it sucked...
 

xPixelatedx

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Never played the Avatar game, but I would assume the military is in it, so technically Americans were the bad guys in a game already.

There is no point in arguing if the Avatar military was American, have you seen the movie!?
 
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as an american, i don't care, i could care less WHO specifically the bad guy is, it's just a god damn label people, fucking christ.

if the game is fun and the motive is there? yes, i will play and enjoy it thoroughly.
 

DTWolfwood

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yes please. it would be refreshing to see a lesser power prevail against the greater. I'm having a hard time sympathizing with my country man when all we ever fight are enemies much smaller and weaker than we are.
 

aashell13

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In addition to any number of RTS's that have an American civilization for you to play as/fight against, there's the Fallout series, where the Enclave is supposedly the remnants of the Federal Government. Also, you could do like Call of Juarez and have something set in the civil war, with the player character fightin' them damn yanks...

In general the enemies/villian should fit the story. otherwise it comes off as forced, which spoils the effect.
 

wammnebu

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Awexsome said:
I think there could be some opportunities to pull of something like that. I mean off the top of my head... Oil supplies running low... U.S. needs more... so they invade some country to get it.

Plenty of people with a voice in politics nowadays that I know would have no problem killing a bunch of innocent foreigners to get what they want.
so fallout