Poll: Americans as the bad guys

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Joleo

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don't americans like british accents for bad guys? thats the impression i get from hollywood, so it would have to be an american and british joint CIA/MI5 conspiracy thing to make it better
 

soul_rune1984

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I clicked I'm American and yes, but that's only a parcial truth I'm North American (Canadian). I personally would love to see a game that showed the other side of a conflict the U.S (and Canada) was involved in. I personally don't play games about actual wars but I would be way more interested and may even get the urge to play one if there was more vatriety other than U.S.= "good guys" and anyone else not American or American Ally= "bad guys".
 

x EvilErmine x

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Well I'm working my way through Prototype at the moment and to me it seems like the American army is the 'bad guy' in that. What with the whole shooting in the head of that poor woman that was trying to run away from the infected an all the civilian collateral damage they don't seem to give a flying frack about. (Not really spoilertastic btw, that's all from the intro FMV)
 

KissofKetchup

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I think something like a dirty CIA agent that you're supposed to take down would make for an interesting game.
 

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Cracker3011 said:
Since we are all sick to death of russians/terrorists/russian terrorists being the villains in pretty much every modern warfare-type game released in the past 5 years or so, I got to thinking, why doesn't any studio take the risk of making the world's most powerful country the enemy, beyond the occasional level or two? Even as simple as a reverse Red Dawn (with the eeeevil capitalists invading the peace-loving communists... or something) would make a change from shooting people with a foriegn accent.
America is powerful? o_O

For the last 40 years the USD has continually suffered depreciated evaluations and the rest of the world is dumping it in favour of other currencies as the reserve standard.

Personally I see all the hash of "Be American Hero 'A' and shoot up Evil foreigners 'B'" as merely the final whimperings of a dying imperialist attitude that began to surface in the individual American as Carter resigned US forces (and the public) in the 70's to Colonialism of the Persian Gulf and 'protection' of the then, and now, supply of the most important commodity ... crude.

And of course, after 30 years of breeding this attitude of 'Might makes right' you suddenly find the average American media outlet (without political pressure) publishing materials of a likewise nature.

That being said, you'll probably find in ten years time that there will be a whole rush of games about counter-US imperialism ... as the only real option the US has remaining to secure itself as, how you would say 'powerful', is by 'Wars of Plunder'.

But even then it's a loising game once the USD has now been effectively dropped as the reserve currency (and USD loads will continue to be reduced substantially internationally) which will limit any ability to produce weaponry.

Or maybe we have differing ideals about what makes a country 'powerful'.

Nevertheless, expect in the next ten years for games to change their tone ...
 

supermariner

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Cracker3011 said:
why doesn't any studio take the risk of making the world's most powerful country the enemy
but loads of games have made China the enemy :)

OT: seriously though, as much as i'd like to have more games like this with a wider range of foes
the nation with the most games developed in the world each year is America
and considering that games aren't particularly popular with western authorities anyway even if they only contain so much as a swear word, it's far too much of a risk

perhaps that's all bollocks,
perhaps it's something to do with relatability to characters of some such thing
but that's my feelings on it anyway
 

ryai458

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Simple because America always wins and the winners are always the good guys.
 

Kraj

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Sure, make a really in depth FPS Sandbox Oblivion style. Your character is chosen at random from any one of the American occupied locations and your family gets killed because of a flush order.

I could get into that.
 

Bugerion

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You know what would be cool alternate history like Americans sided with Germans or totally different history like America,France,Germany and Russia against England,Turkey,India and Egypt makes no fucking sense but it has never been done(has it?).
 

slightly evil

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Awexsome said:
I think there could be some opportunities to pull of something like that. I mean off the top of my head... Oil supplies running low... U.S. needs more... so they invade some country to get it.

Plenty of people with a voice in politics nowadays that I know would have no problem killing a bunch of innocent foreigners to get what they want.
I do think this would make a good plot, you play a soldier vastly outgunned and outnumbered, trying to defend your way of life... of course you'd have to have an alternate american timeline so it's not just attacking them, and find an oil-rich country not run by a mad dictator so you could sympathize with *them*.
 

viking97

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slightly evil said:
Awexsome said:
I think there could be some opportunities to pull of something like that. I mean off the top of my head... Oil supplies running low... U.S. needs more... so they invade some country to get it.

Plenty of people with a voice in politics nowadays that I know would have no problem killing a bunch of innocent foreigners to get what they want.
I do think this would make a good plot, you play a soldier vastly outgunned and outnumbered, trying to defend your way of life... of course you'd have to have an alternate american timeline so it's not just attacking them, and find an oil-rich country not run by a mad dictator so you could sympathize with *them*.

AHEM fallout universe

then again, that was pretty much EVERY country at the time, america just had better weapons and was able to stomp everyone else (quite literally)

perhaps a prequel installment, bethesda? maybe u could give someone the rights to make a source engine game or something like that, just a short and sweetthing to release over steam, XbLA and PSN?
i'd buy it.
 

drwow

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isn't america most of the time now the bad guys at the end of the game?
 

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lacktheknack said:
How about not demonizing an entire country, or just taking the Civilization approach?
I agree with this wholeheartedly, i would love to own another game in which i fight a never ending war against Communist-Gandhi and his mass-produced tank army, after he nukes my Capital.

OT: Yeah, fighting America would be a nice change, but honestly i would love to fight any faction that isn't Nazis, Russians or renamed-Taliban. It would also be interesting to fight against humanity in a fantasy game, or space game.
 

Marik Bentusi

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I think Americans should be able to have their turn as much as everybody else, but in general I like villains being better characterized than "He's evil because he's greedy and drunk on power".
 

phantasmalWordsmith

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I'd eat that game up. My only hope is that it has decent game-play, I'd love innovation but so long as I at least get a decent play, I'm content
 

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lunncal said:
lacktheknack said:
How about not demonizing an entire country, or just taking the Civilization approach?
I agree with this wholeheartedly, i would love to own another game in which i fight a never ending war against Communist-Gandhi and his mass-produced tank army, after he nukes my Capital.

OT: Yeah, fighting America would be a nice change, but honestly i would love to fight any faction that isn't Nazis, Russians or renamed-Taliban. It would also be interesting to fight against humanity in a fantasy game, or space game.
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I agree ... that would be all sorts of win <.<