Poll: Anyone here sick of seeing Russians as bad guys in every movie/videogame/novel?

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Judging by my experiences, there exists three accents that are worthy of complete bad-assery when it comes to being a bad guy.

These three accents are:

1) Russian.
2) German.
3) English (posh, not regional).

1) Whilst most people portray Russians as villains because they are dirty communists who like to kill more than they like to drink their breakfasts, I find that they just sound cool, and as a rule, a villain must sound cool in order to be taken seriously as the villain (for instance, a two-bit thug or a lovable hero with humble origins would have some sort of Bronx accent etc).

I remember in a James Bond film, the villain was an American. Yeah, I wasn't impressed - not an accent of villainy, the American accent, unless we're thinking of a white-suited cowboy hat-sporting oil magnate with a Texan accent, but the corporate accents are always the accents of evil, and since they transcend nationality, I am excluding them from this. Conversely, the same actor returned as Bond's American ally in Goldeneye - this time it worked. He was the likeable friend and the accent complemented that.

2) Again, I suppose the whole "Germans are Nazis" thing comes into effect here, but now it's become ingrained in my mind as a cool villain accent. Not that immensely camp one, which my German friend assures me resembles the Austrian accent much more.

3) Regionals, no. I have not yet heard an English regional accent that sounds clever, calm and sophisticated. If someone finds one, I shall give them a hundred fascinated stares.

However Received Pronunciation (we don't have to venture into "Queen's" territory here, but any accent along these lines will do) works perfectly in either a capable ally or a formidable enemy. An English ally will sound dependable, stoic and intelligent. An English enemy will sound ruthless, calm, persistent, and also intelligent.

Out of all evil villain accents, I would actually go for an English one over the others.

That is not to say that I am evil, being a Lord. I am merely commenting in a less than objective fashion.
 

ProfessorLayton

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I am pretty bored of it, but then again I'm also bored of Nazis, PMCs, and terrorists as well.. I like zombies better, because you can argue it was for self defense. Of course, it's difficult to argue 62,594 counts of self defense with various weapons...
 

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well seeing as how most game developers who are making these big budget games are in the US, i don't see any of them making the USA the bad guy any time soon. It would kinda be bad for business.

But if Russia and America team up to fight some other bad guy, that could have cool possibilities.
 

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Assassin Xaero said:
I don't really care much. Yeah, it is cliche, but then again Russia is so bad ass that it seems to work. And they seem like more of a threat then say Spain or France.
You do realize that France is sitting on the third largest nuclear stockpile in the world, right?
 

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garfield2326 said:
jamesworkshop said:
garfield2326 said:
jamesworkshop said:
garfield2326 said:
i wish i could player a shooter with a Russian perspective BUT being in the US it wouldnt be a great idea. anyone know a game where you can be Russian?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyudmila_Pavlichenko
Wow that would be awesome and i would join u on the development team
Shame i'm working on a Indie oblivion style RPG at the moment
well im only a junior in high school so i wouldnt be much help but good luck with your game

Cheers, still got lots of work to do we have the 3D engine but still haven't finished defining what our polygon budgets are going to be, frustum culling helps and is easy enough to do but wide open RPG vistas are not commonly made in XNA
 

Zhukov

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Many, possibly most, game developers and film makers are American. Many, possibly most, games and films are targeted toward an American audience. Thus a great many games and films feature American protagonists shooting America's enemies. Russians, Nazis, Arabs, Chinese, Koreans etc. Acceptable targets.

And yes, I'm utterly sick of it. The endless parade of yank-wank is getting tiresome.

Y'know what? I want to play a game set in a near-future conflict that puts me in the shoes of an Iranian insurgent planting IEDs to ambush American convoys. Just for a bloody change.
 

reggaerae

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Darth_Dude said:
I'm even more sick of the whole middle eastern/terrorist thing happening. Speaking as one of them (the middle eastern, not the terrorist) I can say it's very annoying and frustrating when you've shot Generic Turban wearing Suicide bomber #67 for the 30th time or seen Generic Turban waering sucide bomber #67 get shot in a movie. Just promotes the stereotype that we're all fanatical, suicdal, war-mongering, child killing rapists.
No smoke without fire :)
 

Taddy

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I would rather see America be the bad guys and Australia being the good guys teamed up with New Zealand and the Brits. But we all know what would happen, we'd all send like one awesome solider to plow through all Generic Cloned Soliders #000001 through #295840 and then they would just simply nuke us. Or Something like that.
 

Assassin Xaero

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Nueemann said:
Assassin Xaero said:
I don't really care much. Yeah, it is cliche, but then again Russia is so bad ass that it seems to work. And they seem like more of a threat then say Spain or France.
You do realize that France is sitting on the third largest nuclear stockpile in the world, right?
Yeah but since Napoleon was exiled the second time that haven't seemed like that big of a threat (in my opinion at least)...
 

garfield2326

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jamesworkshop said:
garfield2326 said:
jamesworkshop said:
garfield2326 said:
jamesworkshop said:
garfield2326 said:
i wish i could player a shooter with a Russian perspective BUT being in the US it wouldnt be a great idea. anyone know a game where you can be Russian?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyudmila_Pavlichenko
Wow that would be awesome and i would join u on the development team
Shame i'm working on a Indie oblivion style RPG at the moment
well im only a junior in high school so i wouldnt be much help but good luck with your game

Cheers, still got lots of work to do we have the 3D engine but still haven't finished defining what our polygon budgets are going to be, frustum culling helps and is easy enough to do but wide open RPG vistas are not commonly made in XNA
What`s the game going 2 be called?
 

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garfield2326 said:
i wish i could player a shooter with a Russian perspective BUT being in the US it wouldnt be a great idea. anyone know a game where you can be Russian?
STALKER and Metro 2033. Both decent games, expecially Metro ;)
 

Treblaine

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I want an alternate history Evil British Empire as the bad guys. And this is speaking as a Brit (we are hardly proud of our colonial past and elitist class structure of the past.
 

jamesworkshop

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garfield2326 said:
jamesworkshop said:
garfield2326 said:
jamesworkshop said:
garfield2326 said:
jamesworkshop said:
garfield2326 said:
i wish i could player a shooter with a Russian perspective BUT being in the US it wouldnt be a great idea. anyone know a game where you can be Russian?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyudmila_Pavlichenko
Wow that would be awesome and i would join u on the development team
Shame i'm working on a Indie oblivion style RPG at the moment
well im only a junior in high school so i wouldnt be much help but good luck with your game

Cheers, still got lots of work to do we have the 3D engine but still haven't finished defining what our polygon budgets are going to be, frustum culling helps and is easy enough to do but wide open RPG vistas are not commonly made in XNA
What`s the game going 2 be called?

At the moment it's Project Carbon Dungeon, but that isn't likely to be the actual name also the team is know as Vice Games
 

cybran

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Nueemann said:
Assassin Xaero said:
I don't really care much. Yeah, it is cliche, but then again Russia is so bad ass that it seems to work. And they seem like more of a threat then say Spain or France.
You do realize that France is sitting on the third largest nuclear stockpile in the world, right?
Lets not forget France and the US are allies... andt there for can't BE the enemy
 

garfield2326

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cybran said:
garfield2326 said:
i wish i could player a shooter with a Russian perspective BUT being in the US it wouldnt be a great idea. anyone know a game where you can be Russian?
STALKER and Metro 2033. Both decent games, expecially Metro ;)
alright im going to get Metro 2033 now. i was on edge about it for awile
 

garfield2326

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jamesworkshop said:
garfield2326 said:
jamesworkshop said:
garfield2326 said:
jamesworkshop said:
garfield2326 said:
jamesworkshop said:
garfield2326 said:
i wish i could player a shooter with a Russian perspective BUT being in the US it wouldnt be a great idea. anyone know a game where you can be Russian?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyudmila_Pavlichenko
Wow that would be awesome and i would join u on the development team
Shame i'm working on a Indie oblivion style RPG at the moment
well im only a junior in high school so i wouldnt be much help but good luck with your game

Cheers, still got lots of work to do we have the 3D engine but still haven't finished defining what our polygon budgets are going to be, frustum culling helps and is easy enough to do but wide open RPG vistas are not commonly made in XNA
What`s the game going 2 be called?

At the moment it's Project Carbon Dungeon, but that isn't likely to be the actual name
well im interested in your game so if you change the name i hope i can find it
 

Blitzkreg

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I just love having someone to compete with, and I wish I could go back to the cold war days. As it is, we cant, so I really like having these ruskies to blame.
 

escapistrules

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Furburt said:
It is annoying. Especially since America and Russia would benefit way more if they were both on good terms, it doesn't really make sense that the American media continually portrays Russians as things to empty bullets into. I don't watch much Russian media, but I'm pretty sure they don't do it to the extent the West does.

I

I wouldn't mind too much if Russians appeared as the enemy, as long as they were dealt with in a mature way, but all I've ever seen in games like MW2 is:

"The Russians are attacking, kill the commie scum!"
"Why are they attacking, what's their motives?"
"They're EEEEEEVIL!"
well, some people ignore that MW2 is more of a complement than an insult to russians. first off they were at war because an american soldier was killed in an airport that was just shot up by an EVIL gang. after america and russia went to war. if i remember correctly, the americans never said "kill the commie sucm!" and this is where russia gets complimented, becuase if you notice, russia was able to destroy most of DC without even seeming to try that hard. that to me seems like america is saying that russia is the stronger nation. then toward the end of the game, the US and Russia have settled their differences and went off the to attack the real EVIL that caused all of this (WHICH WAS AN AMERICAN SOLDIER!!!)

but any way, im fine with russia being the villian only if there is a better reason than calling them evil or communists.