Poll: Are you liberal or conservative?

[JordanMillward_1]

I'm inbetween/both/neither. There are more political options than "liberal" and "conservative" you know.

And you do realise that, compared to the rest of the Western world, that both the Democrats and Republicans are on the right wing of the political spectrum, right? It's just that the Democrats are EVER SO SLIGHTLY less to the right than the Republicans are. Try coming to Europe if you think that the Democrats are "socialist".

PS. Every time America called the Democrats "socialist" or "communist", I both laugh my arse off and die a little inside, because usually the people saying that have no idea what they're talking about.

 

[JordanMillward_1]

I guess Liberal is like Liberal Democrats and Labour and Conservative is Conservative in the UK? If so then I'd go with Liberal.. Conservatives just seem to be about the rich.

Erm... not really, it's a lot more complex than that. Currently the Conservatives are following an ideology close to "one-nation conservatism", which is actually fairly centre/right orientated, which would make them more liberal. The Labour Party, who, like the Republicans in the US, reduced the rights and privileges everyone had to "defend us from terrorism" are strangely the more conservative of the 3 main parties in the UK currently.

 

[Hashime]

The funny thing is that American liberals tend to be equivalent to Canadian conservatives.

 

[A random person]

The American parties I like are:

Socialist Party USA
World Socialist Party of the United States
Democratic Socialists of America

I just wish they could put their small ideological differences aside and combine resources and support so maybe they could win an election every once and a while.

I support this suggestion, just to see how Glenn Beck reacts if we had a socialist senator.

On topic, of the two I'd say liberal since I fit a lot of (supposedly) left-leaning descriptions. My finding the lefts' straw extreme substantially less annoying than the rights' helps.

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

Conservative.

Minus the religious bullshit.

Last I checked, I don't hate gays, don't like Palin, don't think Obama is a muslim, and don't support the war. But how am I still a Republican you ask?

Because at our core...we support the free market.

 

[Plinglebob]

If I was American, I'd be on the far left of the Democratic Party. In Britain, I'm a fairly central socialist-liberal.

 

[NoNameMcgee]

I am socially liberal but I know absolutely nothing about politics, to be honest. I just have opinions on separate issues.

 

[Lord Mountbatten Reborn]

I'm actually unsure. I do agree with a few aspects of traditional conservatism (including the tradition part - religion works as the opiate of the masses after all, as they say), but would usually consider myself primarily in the centre-left of the spectrum. Although my opinion on human nature is decidedly conservative, excluding that "Original Sin" bollocks - people are just twats.

After our Politics class had to identify their own ideological stance, my prediction that they would all subscribe to the all-pervading, liberal, centre-left stance made me decide to spend the whole year arguing in favour of their political opposition, namely British conservatism.

The fact that I am willing to do this either means I am a rather odd fellow in my desire for variety and the wish to not fall into the vortex of bland mediocrity that would otherwise ensue (one friend of mine declared himself Fascist, but since that's the only radical stance, and seems more like a joke, he'll be laughed down, called an idiot, and ignored), or identify more with them than I'd previously believed.

 

[2012 Wont Happen]

The American parties I like are:

Socialist Party USA
World Socialist Party of the United States
Democratic Socialists of America

I just wish they could put their small ideological differences aside and combine resources and support so maybe they could win an election every once and a while.

I support this suggestion, just to see how Glenn Beck reacts if we had a socialist senator.

On topic, of the two I'd say liberal since I fit a lot of (supposedly) left-leaning descriptions. My finding the lefts' straw extreme substantially less annoying than the rights' helps.

The United States does have a Socialist senator. He ran as an independent, but is quite open about his Socialist stances:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders

 

[Aesir23]

I'd have to say that I'm pretty liberal. To be honest, all the conservative politicians over here just seem like giant assholes. Not to mention, it seems like every time we manage to get a surplus and the Conservatives are voted in, they spend it all and run us a huge deficit.

That and I just REALLY dislike Stephen Harper.

 

[A random person]

The American parties I like are:

Socialist Party USA
World Socialist Party of the United States
Democratic Socialists of America

I just wish they could put their small ideological differences aside and combine resources and support so maybe they could win an election every once and a while.

I support this suggestion, just to see how Glenn Beck reacts if we had a socialist senator.

On topic, of the two I'd say liberal since I fit a lot of (supposedly) left-leaning descriptions. My finding the lefts' straw extreme substantially less annoying than the rights' helps.

The United States does have a Socialist senator. He ran as an independent, but is quite open about his Socialist stances:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders

But he doesn't have the "socialist party" thing on him. While that's a dumb reason to doubt his socialism, keep in mind this is Glenn Beck we're talking about.

 

[lwm3398]

I'm mostly conservative, but I'm far, far, far more liberal than my grandfather (Who passed on his conservative beliefs to me).

I guess what I'm saying is this: I believe in Capitalism, and I'm politically/ economically conservative, but I'm socially liberal. By that I mean I'm not one of those cold-hearted "In America, everyone should have a job and house. There's no reason for anyone to be poor, and also, fuck communism (A topic about which I know nothing about, only that, as a conservative I should hate it)" kind of conservatives. I'm pretty much the opposite of that, socially at least. I think there's a word for that, and I think the word is libertarian, but before I say I'm that and set it in stone I'd have to look it up.

 

[tthor]

To sum up. Unable to find work because there are genuinely no jobs = Be supported by the state.

Unable to find work cos you keep getting fired for not turning up/being useless = Starve.

Exactly this.
welfare was mainly created during the great depression, and was meant ONLY as a temporary solution to the unemployment crisis, and was not meant to be in use after the great depression ended. why it was not abolished afterward, i have no idea...

in response to the OP, i am somewhat conservative/inbetween i guess.

 

[2012 Wont Happen]

The American parties I like are:

Socialist Party USA
World Socialist Party of the United States
Democratic Socialists of America

I just wish they could put their small ideological differences aside and combine resources and support so maybe they could win an election every once and a while.

I support this suggestion, just to see how Glenn Beck reacts if we had a socialist senator.

On topic, of the two I'd say liberal since I fit a lot of (supposedly) left-leaning descriptions. My finding the lefts' straw extreme substantially less annoying than the rights' helps.

The United States does have a Socialist senator. He ran as an independent, but is quite open about his Socialist stances:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_Sanders

But he doesn't have the "socialist party" thing on him. While that's a dumb reason to doubt his socialism, keep in mind this is Glenn Beck we're talking about.

That is true, he doesn't run as a Socialist Party candidate. That might very well be why he was able to be the only Socialist elected to congress so far now that I think about it.

 

[oktalist]

The American parties I like are:

Socialist Party USA
World Socialist Party of the United States
Democratic Socialists of America

I just wish they could put their small ideological differences aside and combine resources and support so maybe they could win an election every once and a while.

WSP won't join with reformist parties, because reformist parties get bogged down trying to reform the present system and can never actually bring about socialism.

 

[Pinstar]

Economics: Conservative
Everything Else (Gay marriage, stem cell research, etc): Liberal

I *hate* the fact that supporting one party always supports something I stand for and don't stand for at the same time.

 

[2012 Wont Happen]

The American parties I like are:

Socialist Party USA
World Socialist Party of the United States
Democratic Socialists of America

I just wish they could put their small ideological differences aside and combine resources and support so maybe they could win an election every once and a while.

WSP won't join with reformist parties, because reformist parties get bogged down trying to reform the present system and can never actually bring about socialism.

And without these three parties joining together, there will never be enough support behind a Socialist candidate in the United States to make a change in the system big enough to where the World Socialist Movement could begin its work here. It could be viewed a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" situation, except that after Socialist candidates start being elected by the combined support of these parties, the American people will realize that the Soviet Union isn't happening and will warm up to Socialism. Then, the World Socialist Party of the United States will have a chance at being a viable force all by itself.

Economics: Conservative
Everything Else (Gay marriage, stem cell research, etc): Liberal

I *hate* the fact that supporting one party always supports something I stand for and don't stand for at the same time.

Read Whatever Happened to Justice, and see how that sits with you. You seem to be describing Libertarian ideology when you describe yourself.

 

[tthor]

Economics: Conservative
Everything Else (Gay marriage, stem cell research, etc): Liberal

I *hate* the fact that supporting one party always supports something I stand for and don't stand for at the same time.

that is my huge problem with the whole ideology of Democrats VS. Conservatives, it just seems like it makes things pointlessly 2sided, rather than focusing specifically on the many politcal topics at hand.

 

[cheese_wizington]

Neither, it's stupid that your views MUST be put into one of two groups. Why can't you have different parties than just two?

Politics sucks.

 

[Colonel Alzheimer's]

I'm neither. I believe in a healthy mix of Libertarianism and Fascism, an ideology of my own that I haven't had the chance to write down yet. But I do believe in complete laissez-faire capitalism, science that is not bound by the petty idea of morality for the betterment of mankind, equality among all without favouritism for minorities, Social Darwinism, strong but small government, high police presence to protect the citizens but not limit them, and a liberal use of the death penalty.

So I guess I would be "conservative" if you wish. But that implies that I'm religious, anti-gay, and pro-life. Which I'm definitely not.

These beliefs sound like the same ones that Rapture (from Bioshock) was founded on.