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Comrade_Beric

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Sonic Doctor said:
sp86 said:
Glenn Beck is a second rate shock jock who drank himself into a cult, then realizing he had no *other* marketable skills, decided to wring cash out of the demented, the paranoid and the politically illiterate. Sad thing is, he's laughing all the way to the bank on those morons' dime.
Try attacking him on something that actually means something. It is hilarious how people that can't find a flaw in a man's message and words, so they look for things to attack that don't matter. Can't find a flaw, oh he was once an alcoholic, he got some religion. Yeah let's attack that because it is totally a credible argument. Come back when you can say something that is something that can rightly be attacked.
He's also the only [http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/media/thars-gold-in-them-shills-fox-raps-glenn-becks-endorsement-de/19269083/]commentator on Fox News ever to receive special permission to be a "paid spokesman" [http://www.goldline.com/d/index.html?id=544&utm_source=glennbeck.com] for a corporation other than Fox News, which he is for an international gold exchange company [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlworUA84k4&feature=player_embedded] called "Goldline." [http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCgQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.goldline.com%2F&ei=qaaVTMjUAYK8lQew2fCnCg&usg=AFQjCNGZBI3aHbMJmnw1LtAiG2p7g-ItNw] It makes you wonder why he constantly pushes for his listeners to buy gold [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzjjHzO8aeI] with his slogan "God, Gold, and Guns." Perhaps he is intentionally misleading [http://gawker.com/5420721/glenn-beck-advertiser-pundits-say-what-you-pay-them-to-say] his viewers in a conflict of interest? Hmm, it even looks like the price of gold has skyrocketed [http://www.monex.com/prods/gold_chart.html] leading to huge profits for Goldline, so much so that they're even under investigation in Congress for dramatic and obscene price gouging, sometimes as high as triple the market value. [http://mediamatters.org/strupp/201007220051]

"When the system eventually collapses, and the government comes with guns and confiscates, you know, everything in your home and all your possessions, and then you fight off the raving mad cannibalistic crowds that Ted Turner talked about, don't come crying to me. I told you: get gold."

Oh, but what's this? He seems to have recanted and says he's not a paid spokesman at all [http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/14/business/media/14beck.html?_r=4&src=twt&twt=NYTimesAd], even though he himself already proclaimed that he is getting paid [http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200912140010]. So, go ahead and keep listening to Glenn Beck because you can be absolutely certain that he has the best interests of the American People at heart. You know, unless a corporation pays him not to.
 

papagordo

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Actually, you don't have to be a citizen for the bill of rights to apply. Just being in the united states is enough. A foreign national on US soil is still has his right against unreasonable search and seizure.

This is not a legal or illegal action, should the US decide to deny him a visa they can do so for almost any reason including being a drunk D-bag. Guess it's a good thing I'm already here otherwise ****BANNINATION****
 

ninja51

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So much for free speech, god it really freaks me out about this stuff. Imagine what the FBI and government does that they wont tell us about. Remember that video that came out where it showed a military air gunman killing a reporter and shooting and killing a father who drove up help the injured trying to crawl away? Ya the offical story on that was "We killed 9 insurgents." They refused to release the video. They dont tell us shit, they banned a kid from the country for being mean to the president in an email he never would have read anyway. That guy who threw his shoes at bush, was in prison for a few years I believe. Ya a country touting its equal rights imprisoned, and almost definatly tortured a guy who threw, and missed mind you, his shoes at bush. I wish I could make my own country, being born in this fucked up one seriously scares the hell out of me
 

sp86

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ninja51 said:
So much for free speech, god it really freaks me out about this stuff. Imagine what the FBI and government does that they wont tell us about. Remember that video that came out where it showed a military air gunman killing a reporter and shooting and killing a father who drove up help the injured trying to crawl away? Ya the offical story on that was "We killed 9 insurgents." They refused to release the video. They dont tell us shit, they banned a kid from the country for being mean to the president in an email he never would have read anyway. That guy who threw his shoes at bush, was in prison for a few years I believe. Ya a country touting its equal rights imprisoned, and almost definatly tortured a guy who threw, and missed mind you, his shoes at bush. I wish I could make my own country, being born in this fucked up one seriously scares the hell out of me
Try being born anywhere else. Course, most of the Scandanavian countries are nice enough to justify 60% income tax. And the women!
 

The Dark Umbra

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Quaxar said:
Polaris19 said:
America apparently owns a banhummer. >_<
http://www.hummerpedia.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/humvee-in-snow_600.jpg

Bad puns aside, this is hilariously ridiculous. Shouldn't the US free speech thing apply to everyone?
But it was amusing nevertheless. Well played, FBI. I wonder if the people offering Obama viagra and a free college degree receive bans too...
Free speech applys only to citizens
 

sp86

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The Dark Umbra said:
And anyone who happens to be in the country.

14th amendment said:
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
 

Sonic Doctor

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derelix said:
If he was "telling the truth" he wouldn't be wrong about most of the things he says. He has this weasel way of pointing you a certain way but never saying he believes it, like when he talks about the illuminati but then pretends that it doesn't exist and that obama is the cause of everything. It's pathetic.
He's a fear monger because he spreads fear. All news anchors are fear mongers but beck takes more pride in it (oddly enough, making him the most entertaining to watch)
Nobody fears him, if you really believe that I feel like I should hug you and ask you to find help. He spreads fear to people like you by telling them stuff like "obama care leads to nazis!" and "that's socialist, were becoming NAZIS!"
Don't you find it funny that what he says has a connection to what he sells?
"Our economy is in trouble, the American dollar will soon be worthless. Cash for gold.com, great I use it all the time, they take that useless currency and give you gold in exchange. "
How can you actually believe he is the real deal?
Because the guy does adds for a company, means nothing. The whole cash for gold thing is actually a very smart thing, though I think it was Goldline that he did stuff for. It is his opinion, it isn't some big evil conspiracy. Seriously, the minute somebody endorses a product people jump out and say that person is just down right despicable. If someone wants to make some extra money, I won't bash him if he actually believes in what he is endorsing.

As for your other stuff, you have taken everything he says out of context. So everything you pointed out is false.

sp86 said:
derelix said:
Don't feed the troll guy.

:(
You have taken the term of Troll and used inappropriately. A troll is someone that loves to argue, and argue with out a real reason.

I have good reasons behind my arguments. I don't like to argue. I just try to set peoples thoughts on things straight, though a good portion of the time, people are just too set in their ways that they can't open their minds and think clearly.
 

sp86

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Sonic Doctor said:
You have taken the term of Troll and used inappropriately.
Wiki said:
In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as an online discussion forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking other users into a desired emotional response[1] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.
ED said:
A Troll, most commonly encountered on the internet, is any person who purposely causes controversy in a web community (by posting offensive and crude comments or provides advice) and disrupts shit for his own amusement to prove how extremely corrupt our society is. The term troll is subjective. There are many characteristics of a troll.
Me said:
... he is meaningless noise speaking to a segment of the population that has become wholly detached from reality.
Q.E.D.
 

Comrade_Beric

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sp86 said:
The Dark Umbra said:
And anyone who happens to be in the country.

14th amendment said:
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Which would mean something if the guy had actually, you know, been in the country when he did that.
 

sp86

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Lord_Beric said:
sp86 said:
The Dark Umbra said:
And anyone who happens to be in the country.

14th amendment said:
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Which would mean something if the guy had actually, you know, been in the country when he did that.
I was just clarifying for Umbra. I'm not suggesting Equal Protection applies.
 

reachforthesky

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ninja51 said:
So much for free speech
"Free speech" is not the universal blanket term you imagine it to be. While there's nothing wrong with insulting the president, threats of violence (to anyone, not just the president) are illegal, and quite frankly he's lucky he wasn't extradited and tried.

ninja51 said:
That guy who threw his shoes at bush, was in prison for a few years I believe. Ya a country touting its equal rights imprisoned, and almost definatly tortured a guy who threw, and missed mind you, his shoes at bush.
That man was arrested by the Iraqi government, anything that happened to him (if it was anything) is the fault of the Iraqi millitary. Please do a little research before you accuse America of torture.
 

Sonic Doctor

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Lord_Beric said:
Sonic Doctor said:
sp86 said:
Glenn Beck is a second rate shock jock who drank himself into a cult, then realizing he had no *other* marketable skills, decided to wring cash out of the demented, the paranoid and the politically illiterate. Sad thing is, he's laughing all the way to the bank on those morons' dime.
Try attacking him on something that actually means something. It is hilarious how people that can't find a flaw in a man's message and words, so they look for things to attack that don't matter. Can't find a flaw, oh he was once an alcoholic, he got some religion. Yeah let's attack that because it is totally a credible argument. Come back when you can say something that is something that can rightly be attacked.
He's also the only [http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/media/thars-gold-in-them-shills-fox-raps-glenn-becks-endorsement-de/19269083/]commentator on Fox News ever to receive special permission to be a "paid spokesman" [http://www.goldline.com/d/index.html?id=544&utm_source=glennbeck.com] for a corporation other than Fox News, which he is for an international gold exchange company [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlworUA84k4&feature=player_embedded] called "Goldline." [http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=1&ved=0CCgQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.goldline.com%2F&ei=qaaVTMjUAYK8lQew2fCnCg&usg=AFQjCNGZBI3aHbMJmnw1LtAiG2p7g-ItNw] It makes you wonder why he constantly pushes for his listeners to buy gold [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzjjHzO8aeI] with his slogan "God, Gold, and Guns." Perhaps he is intentionally misleading [http://gawker.com/5420721/glenn-beck-advertiser-pundits-say-what-you-pay-them-to-say] his viewers in a conflict of interest? Hmm, it even looks like the price of gold has skyrocketed [http://www.monex.com/prods/gold_chart.html] leading to huge profits for Goldline, so much so that they're even under investigation in Congress for dramatic and obscene price gouging, sometimes as high as triple the market value. [http://mediamatters.org/strupp/201007220051]

"When the system eventually collapses, and the government comes with guns and confiscates, you know, everything in your home and all your possessions, and then you fight off the raving mad cannibalistic crowds that Ted Turner talked about, don't come crying to me. I told you: get gold."

Oh, but what's this? He seems to have recanted and says he's not a paid spokesman at all [http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/14/business/media/14beck.html?_r=4&src=twt&twt=NYTimesAd], even though he himself already proclaimed that he is getting paid [http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200912140010]. So, go ahead and keep listening to Glenn Beck because you can be absolutely certain that he has the best interests of the American People at heart. You know, unless a corporation pays him not to.
Use a source of news and information that isn't controlled by liberals and I will believe it. When I win 500 million dollars in a lottery, then I will believe a liberal news source that reports on things that deal with Conservatives.
 

Comrade_Beric

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sp86 said:
Lord_Beric said:
sp86 said:
The Dark Umbra said:
And anyone who happens to be in the country.

14th amendment said:
No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.
Which would mean something if the guy had actually, you know, been in the country when he did that.
I was just clarifying for Umbra. I'm not suggesting Equal Protection applies.
Fair enough. Carry on then.