Poll: Breasts in R movies but not in M games?

[Nostalgia]

I'm not denying that what you described happens, as it very obviously does. You just made it sound like you don't care, or that you do care but find no use in defending your position. I happen to care very much about the subject, as I hate being objectified and constantly told how I should look in order to be considered attractive. And yes, some women do objectify themselves though I personally believe it's because they are not confident in themselves and think they need to behave in a certain way to gain male approval. Of course, if they truly love objectifying themselves and being objectified, I have no qualms with their decision. I would just never feel okay about myself if I were to do so.

I try to act as I don't care, but in truth, I'm a extremely self-conscious person, especially considering that I'm not anything near being ideal. I just see no reason to defend this beaten horse when it only gives me a bad connotation for doing so, while doing nothing to help the actual problem. If anything, I'm more so miffed that it's seemingly okay to show a female body more so than it is to show that of a male. But that's off-topic.

As far as women not having any confidence when objectifying themselves, I believe it doesn't necessarily boil down to that. I definitely understand what you're saying, and I agree to a point, but people who often do have very attractive bodies are normally extremely confident, as they are comfortable with themselves. Looking good is a great esteem booster, and isn't entirely due to media influence.

If people are telling you that you should aim to be more attractive for their sake, they're most likely people not worth your time, especially if that's their only concern. Even with my shape, I do have a boyfriend that does find me sexually attractive, and there are those out there who will have different standards than what we're used to.

Ick. I felt like I just vomited. Back to apathy!

Edit: yay, 500.

 

[Yegargeburble]

You do not have a "I don't care" option. I really don't care about popping them into games, as breasts are not why I buy a game.

 

[Nostalgia]

Congrats!
Maybe when you hit 6867, we can celebrate with heroin and hookers!

Why not today? It IS my birthday.

Since I don't actually know any of these celebrities, I have to judge them on physical attractiveness alone.
And in that, there are almost no attractive female celebs.
Sad indeed.

Anyway, no. Drugs are for people who can't handle their shit by themselves. I never used to use pain killers, and now I can't go a day without them.

Considering most of them are actors, it would be hard to judge them by personality ANYWAY.
Good to hear those pain killers are working out for you. Sounds like they're working. I seemingly need doctor prescribed ones as store-counter ones refuse to treat anything for me.

 

[BonsaiK]

when guys have "high standards" in regards to a woman's body because of the media telling everyone what a woman should look like, I become upset.

I have extremely high physical standards for a girlfriend, after all why should I settle for less than exactly what I want? However, what achieves my "standard" definitely isn't the same thing that makes a woman a supermodel or a popular actress. For instance, there's no amount of money you could pay me to make me sleep with Angelina Jolie, she's gross. My girlfriend is far hotter than that. My standards are my own, they don't come from any media.

I never said that all guys want what the media projects. I know that there are guys with completely different tastes. In my experience, however, many guys do want a girl that looks like a model, even if they "settle" for something lesser (my male friends talk about their girlfriends and such when I'm around). I guess what I really meant is that quite a few guys I've known date girls purely on their looks and body, while completely disregarding personality, beliefs, and interests - and that is what truly bothers me.

If I'm dating someone it's very important that I find them physically attractive, or any attempt at a "relationship" is going to hit a pretty severe brick wall as soon as we enter the bedroom. However it's also very important that I can have a sensible conversation with a girl, and hang out with her and feel comfortable, or all the other time that I spend with her is going to be pretty intolerable. I don't see anything really that wrong with two people just fucking because they only find each other attractive though, as long as those people have a mutual understanding that that's what it's about and neither is deceiving the other, it's really not my business. But I don't operate that way, personally.

Also keep in mind that the kind of "locker room" style chats that you're probably being exposed to, and what guys actually really think are often two different things. Guys (generally) aren't as adept at talking to each other about their real feelings as girls are, so the guy who says he's "settled" for, say, a fat girl, might actually secretly like fat girls but is afraid to admit it in front of his mates, for fear of disapproval etc. A lot of guys can be funny like that. Not me, though. I think fat girls are fucking cute (not really obese, because that's just unhealthy, but I do like slightly plus-size girls). I try not to date them purely on their looks and body, but sometimes it's hard to resist their physical charms... sexual chemistry is a very powerful impulse, you know...

 

[ReZerO]

Here in Canada for movies you can have brief nudity in a PG movie, and full frontal in a 14A movie (in Ontario at least). It?s too bad though that we fall under the same body that the US does for video games, the esrb.

 

[The_Prophet]

...No...that isn't what I was going to say at all.

Video games are, compared to movies, a new medium.
Wasn't that actor in Gone With The Wind fined for saying "damn?"

We're still around that stage.
Comparatively.

Now, my problem is this: Do I think they should be allowed?
Yes.
Do I want tits in my games?
No.

Pretty much this.

 

[Blow_Pop]

Gosh, as a woman I don't want to see pixelated tits. 1)They're always laughably unrealistic and 2) it alienates me as a female gamer because I feel as if the game was made "for the boys". I also don't see any reason for most games to include it because it wouldn't add anything to the game other than something for guys to wank off to.

They're not laughably unrealistic and there's nothing wrong with you enjoying looking at bewbs neither.


Fact: The best games ever created featured nudity.

Fact: I voted maybe because if its done in a tasteful way yes its fine, otherwise no.
Fact: Okami and Silent Hill. Amazing games. No nudity.

And for the record, I am a female with a porn collection(not gay male porn) and photos not only of girls around my room half naked, but half and fully naked girls on my computer.
aprilmarie = loves boobs (depending on context as far as games go)

 

[similar.squirrel]

Strategic dismemberment is okay, but breasts are unacceptable?
Am I the only one who thinks this is strange?

 

[Blow_Pop]

Strategic dismemberment is okay, but breasts are unacceptable?
Am I the only one who thinks this is strange?

I find it to be the strangest thing ever. Dismemberment period being ok......

 

[twistedshadows]

(Sorry, that was getting too long to post.)

In my original post on this thread I asked:
"Why are naked women much more likely to appear in films than nude men? And why do I keep seeing breasts referred to as "bewbs" in this thread?" (Both of which I'd still like the answer to, but will probably never get.)

Anyway, I now understand where you're coming from. And it's true, many women who objectify themselves are quite attractive. I've knew a bunch of girls in high school who are gorgeous and somehow just couldn't believe that they were, no matter how much attention they got. These girls genuinely had little to no self-esteem when they had every excuse to feel completely confident and beautiful. I became quite close to them through various circumstances, before which I thought they must have all the confidence in the world (as they were able to masterfully exude that facade). What I'm getting at is that I'm not sure that all women who are attractive and objectify themselves are as confident as they seem. I'm sure there are other factors that go into it, but I'm still not convinced that low self-esteem isn't one of the main factors for a lot of girls (not all, of course; I'd bet that there are girls out there who have completely different reasons).

People don't directly tell me I should aim to be more attractive, I'm always bombarded with a certain idealized image in commercials, advertisements, movies, the music world, etc. There's no way to stop that except by ignoring it and continuing to do my own thing. I've had relationships and know that there are guys out there who find my type attractive. And thank god for that.

Congrats on your 500.
EDIT: And happy birthday! I hear there's some EVE cake floating around out there, somewhere. I think you should get a piece.

 

[BonsaiK]

And for the record, I am a female with a porn collection(not gay male porn) and photos not only of girls around my room half naked, but half and fully naked girls on my computer.
aprilmarie = loves boobs (depending on context as far as games go)

You have just become my favourite person on this site.

 

[Blow_Pop]

And for the record, I am a female with a porn collection(not gay male porn) and photos not only of girls around my room half naked, but half and fully naked girls on my computer.
aprilmarie = loves boobs (depending on context as far as games go)

You have just become my favourite person on this site.

ummm....thanks? i guess. which reminds me i took pictures of my room to upload onto my comp and should do so.....

 

[Gohanpwns]

Just one question. What the fuck are "Breats" ???

 

[BonsaiK]

And for the record, I am a female with a porn collection(not gay male porn) and photos not only of girls around my room half naked, but half and fully naked girls on my computer.
aprilmarie = loves boobs (depending on context as far as games go)

You have just become my favourite person on this site.

ummm....thanks? i guess. which reminds me i took pictures of my room to upload onto my comp and should do so.....

Hahaha. I do mean it, actually. One of my favourite female friends is a big "retro porn" collector and has lots of 1950s smut in her house, you remind me of her a little. In my experience most girls who dig female nakedness are pretty self-assured and intelligent, at least in my experience.

 

[twistedshadows]

If I'm dating someone it's very important that I find them physically attractive, or any attempt at a "relationship" is going to hit a pretty severe brick wall as soon as we enter the bedroom. However it's also very important that I can have a sensible conversation with a girl, and hang out with her and feel comfortable, or all the other time that I spend with her is going to be pretty intolerable. I don't see anything really that wrong with two people just fucking because they only find each other attractive though, as long as those people have a mutual understanding that that's what it's about and neither is deceiving the other, it's really not my business. But I don't operate that way, personally.

Also keep in mind that the kind of "locker room" style chats that you're probably being exposed to, and what guys actually really think are often two different things. Guys (generally) aren't as adept at talking to each other about their real feelings as girls are, so the guy who says he's "settled" for, say, a fat girl, might actually secretly like fat girls but is afraid to admit it in front of his mates, for fear of disapproval etc. A lot of guys can be funny like that. Not me, though. I think fat girls are fucking cute (not really obese, because that's just unhealthy, but I do like slightly plus-size girls). I try not to date them purely on their looks and body, but sometimes it's hard to resist their physical charms... sexual chemistry is a very powerful impulse, you know...

I totally agree that physical attraction is a key part in any serious relationship (pheromones are incredibly important). And yeah, as long as there's an understanding between them, "dating" on bedroom merits alone can definitely work for some people. I'm not able to operate that way either, though. I have to be able to have intelligent conversations with a guy, or I'm out.

It's good to know that socially awkward guy talk can be different from what guys truly thing. That's probably one of the best things I've heard out of all the conversations I've had in this thread so far. Which is kind of sad, come to think of it.

 

[Gunn01]

There is already breats in M rated games. I can think of two off the top of my head. God of war and godfather 2. and Up here in Canada theres plenty of breasts in 14A movies.