WAIT A SECOND WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU?!reecedempsey said:ROAR ZABIMARUEcher123 said:How was he belittling anyone's opinion? It was obvious he was just trying to be funny.manaman said:Does it look like it was supposed to be funny? And I don't ask that sarcastically. I didn't mean that statement as funny, I sometimes point out how absurd people are being, and that was all I was doing there.Echer123 said:I...what?manaman said:You didn't say it. You typed it. With the ability to read over it. If you didn't want to make a statement you wouldn't have posted that. If you really had second thoughts about posting it you would have edited it.Puddle Jumper said:Oh yeah, my mom would smack me around if I went too far. It made me the level headed serial rapist I am to ... forget I said that.
You are more then entitled to your opinion, but you should probably working on not belittling another's opinion while making your stance vague, and then ask people to over look it. It just comes across as childish and petty, and you know what? It does more to reinforce the OPs statement than your own.
If that was supposed to be funny, I don't get it.
OT: No. Unless you count 'light swipes with a magazine' as hitting.
You know, I think you're just fucking with me...
As a kid I thought it was normal and I was glad she only used her hand. My grandparents have a paddle they used on my mom and her siblings and they had to sign the back every time they were hit. Besides non-violent punishments never worked on me because if she grounded me from TV and video games I'd play them anyways, and if she hid the console I'd find it. If she made me sit in a corner I'd either leave or read a book and pretend to enjoy myself.cabooze said:I can't tell if you think this was a good thing or a bad thing.TehCookie said:Depends on how bad I was, saying something mean would get me a slap across the face, doing something bad got me a spanking and talking back got me black and blue. The worst part was when my brother and I got into fights (they were pretty one sided since he was 3 years older) my mom would hit both of us afterwords and said "it takes two to fight". So I not only was beaten by my brother but also my mother afterwords. Usually my brother would hit me for stupid things like breathing to hard or not being his slave.
Today if I start doing something bad all my mom has to do is raise her hand and I'll stop. My dad never hit me and often had to pull my mom off be if she went beyond discipline.
If that was my mother, I would have resented her and probably not spoken to her until she lay on her death-bed.
You are the most awesome person in this thread (salutes). It's so refreshing to hear someone say that it wasn't for the best that they were beaten.AndyFromMonday said:My grandparents would beat me for the most insignificant of things (For e.g. I stayed on the computer for one hour more than I was allowed to and got a spanking or when my studying interfered with my grandfathers daily news watching).
My mum thought the best way to deal with a child was also spanking and proceeded to do so up every time I dared to point a flaw with her character or if I wouldn't act like her boyfriend was the only thing that mattered in my life.
I was also spanked whenever I'd be upset over not being allowed to go outside (and this wasn't a case of coming home late, this was a case of not being allowed out of the goddamn house until I was 13)
This all stopped due to my own accord the moment I reached the age of 14. I showed a big fuck you to my mum when she'd try the same tactics like before and a big go fuck yourself to my grandparents whenever they'd try to enter the equation. My mum ended up going for "punishments" like no pocket money but that hardly did any good since I was an avid fan of stealing from her purse whenever she thought the money my dad sent me was better put to use paying for a fucking TV she barely ever used and a goddamn bigger appartment she didn't need.
Did I mention how both my parents thought friends didn't matter, family should be everything for me, criticizing your parents was a "mortal sin" and should be punishable by forcing said critic into a mental institution and my free time should be spent reading books to become more cultured?
I always have and always will hate this family.
Exactly this. I don't necessarily disagree with not hitting a child, it's the bullshit, holier than thou response I hate by people who weren't. Kind of like those zealous vegetarians.Bourne said:It is nice to see that even this forum is not above having users who decide to inject their own meaning into others' posts.cabooze said:So you didn't curse at your parents because you respected them or because you thought that it was a bad thing to do, you didn't curse at them because you was afraid of your father hitting you with a belt? Over here, almost nobody would dream of belting their child. It's what they did in the middle ages because people didn't know how to communicate with their children in any other way than the fist.
I am not sure Medieval children were beaten with belts, and I am also not sure doing something in the Middle Ages makes it archaic or evil... they drank beer in the Middle Ages, they ate pork in the Middle Ages, men had sex with women in the Middle Ages, well, you get my point (I hope).
Having a lesson "spanked" into isn't the creation of some fearful Pavlovian response to a behavior, it is a wake-up call that if something you have done could incur such a punishment, there must really be something fundamentally wrong with it. Time spent alone after a spanking was often the most cathartic for me at a young age, because I was trying to understand what could make the only two people in the world I had loved want to physically hurt me, and I always came to the conclusion it was because what I had done was truly bad, which, 99% of the time, it was.
So, to answer your question, no, I didn't stop cursing at my parents out of fear, I did it out of respect and understanding for the purpose of the punishment and the consequences of the behavior.
...still don't get if you think beating children is good.TehCookie said:As a kid I thought it was normal and I was glad she only used her hand. My grandparents have a paddle they used on my mom and her siblings and they had to sign the back every time they were hit. Besides non-violent punishments never worked on me because if she grounded me from TV and video games I'd play them anyways, and if she hid the console I'd find it. If she made me sit in a corner I'd either leave or read a book and pretend to enjoy myself.cabooze said:I can't tell if you think this was a good thing or a bad thing.TehCookie said:Depends on how bad I was, saying something mean would get me a slap across the face, doing something bad got me a spanking and talking back got me black and blue. The worst part was when my brother and I got into fights (they were pretty one sided since he was 3 years older) my mom would hit both of us afterwords and said "it takes two to fight". So I not only was beaten by my brother but also my mother afterwords. Usually my brother would hit me for stupid things like breathing to hard or not being his slave.
Today if I start doing something bad all my mom has to do is raise her hand and I'll stop. My dad never hit me and often had to pull my mom off be if she went beyond discipline.
If that was my mother, I would have resented her and probably not spoken to her until she lay on her death-bed.
Yeah I understand it messed me up quite a bit. I suppose if I were to ever talk to a proffesional it would be revealed just how much of a mess of a human being I actually am, yet it doesn't all come back to this. I certainly lack passion, for anything.cabooze said:Becoming quiet and staying out of the way is probably linked to emotional trauma and seems to be the reason why people hit their children, to get the "children should be seen but not heard effect. The one that turns numerous people into emotional wrecks and is associated with people lacking a sense of creativity and passion.Pariah87 said:I was on the receiving end of a fair amount of corporal punishment, seeing as to my dad it was the only way to reprimand, same way as his parents had done to him.
I understand getting a smack for swearing at an adult, or breaking something deliberately or being a smart ass. I used to get a smack if I made a cup of tea wrong or folded clothes incorrectly.
I don't count it as abuse, ok it has messed with me a bit, confidence wise I found it best to stay quiet and stay out the way, so I've brought that into adult life with me but seeing how many of my peers in school have turned out, it was probably for the best.
*snipp*
Most people who are physically punished as children usually get self-confidence by establishing physical domination over others.
Well that's your opinion. I still belive that it was the fact that my parents disiplined me that way as a child that has lead to me being the reasonably well rounded individual that I am today. Parents have the right to disipline their children how they please (within reason), and I don't belive in not punishing someone that deserves it.Queen Michael said:You just now freely admitted that you intend to treat your own children violently. Many people, me included, would argue that giving you that view of punishment through violence can be called harm in the long run.Vet2501 said:Oh yes. If I misbehaved I got a good skelping for it... and so will my kids (if I heave any). It didn't do me any harm in the long run.
As far as I know, there are no statistics that clearly show children behaving much worse when they aren't physically punished. Rather, when parents never beat their kids it shows that those parents firmly believe in non-violence.
^thisSrdjan said:Sometimes when I was little, nothing to complain about, beating can be good for children if it's moderated and reasoned.