nope, the 360's already established as a hardcore gaming device and all kinect's really gonna do is sucker in rich kids and underage xbox users and considering the wii's already in a position where it's cheaper than kinect alone AND that it's been riding high 3 years straight it won't be beaten by ANYONE
Poll: Do you believe Kinect will hurt the Wii?
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Kinect won't hurt the Wii directly in terms of sales. It's going to be long-term, when people get used to the idea of motion control being on the 360 that the Wii could start to feel the pinch without an upgrade/new version. Shelf space will be the real factor.
I am ashamed to be sharing a planet with people who think Kinect is a good idea.
1 of 2 things will happen with Kinect:
1. The technology won't work
2. No decent games will be made for it, only party games and games that have been whored out and contain some random section which has a "Kinect" moment for the sake of having one.
1 of 2 things will happen with Kinect:
1. The technology won't work
2. No decent games will be made for it, only party games and games that have been whored out and contain some random section which has a "Kinect" moment for the sake of having one.
Not a chance. Anyone really interested in this already has a Wii and anyone who would be interested in motion controls will probably go for the cheaper option with more titles out and more word of mouth praise. Microsoft and Sony are late to the party.
It wont even dent the Wii. The Kinect will fall through as soon as people realize that microsoft cant do crap with it. Just like the Wii. The same will happen to the PS3 (see? I'm not biased). anyway, it wont even be thought about after the initial few months and will serve as a port for the casual gamer. Unless something with Halo is done for it. Then Halo fan boys will put it on a pedestal like do tehy everyhting else halo related.
I don't see it hurting the Wii at all because I don't see it drawing any of its consumers away. Even then in my opinion, the Wii beats Kinect simply because it has a controller, and the PS3 Move will beat them both because it combines the best of the two and will function properly in my opinion. Not that I'm looking forward to either of those much, We'll see once games start lining up for the Move but I expect to be frustrated.mrpmpfan said:
Every gaming console ever produced for the masses has a huge load of shovelware. We shouldn't judge consoles by them. Also the Nintendo Quality Seal wasn't a mark that was used on good games. It was used to show which games had been licensed by Nintendo to be used on the consoles because unlicensed games were easy make and companies often created SNES games without Nintendo's permission. It was used on all their games even the bad ones.mrpmpfan said:
Also why is the gamecube a failure because it didn't sell as well as the Xbox and PS2. The Gamecube had its market and despite not selling as well it was still a pretty decent console. I could make a list of bombs for every console ever but that doesn't mean they were all shit.
OT: No, the Kinect will do minimal damage to the Wii, at best. The Kinect and Move are basically trying to sell their own slightly more advanced version of the Wii. People who have the Wii aren't going to buy it and people who hate motion controls aren't going to buy it.
Let's put that in percent
People who have the Wii= 60%
People who hate motion controls= 30%
What you have left is 10% of the market split between Sony and Microsoft. Move and Kinect are doomed to fall flat on their faces.
I know several people who own a Wii but hardly play it. Reason being? Because they have bought titles that looked and sounded like fun such as Ghostbusters but realized that it was a tame lamer version than the Xbox 360s. So they have become disappointed with their purchase. I think a lot of Wii owners, or kids who have grown up a few more years and are being teased they own a Wii will be wanting to upgrade to a truly next-gen system. I feel that Kinect is enough of a difference from what they previous owned plus the $300 bundle is a great deal that they will make the switch. I also love your percentages because you pulled those out of thin air.Jeronus said:
If it was a cash in wouldn't they have released it the year or months following the Wiis release? But instead they didn't they waited until they perfected their idea and got 3rd party companies on board. Plus Mario and Zelda are only awesome to some. I personally hated Majora's Mask, Wind Waker and Twilight Princess but I love Link's Awakening. As far as Mario is concerned they haven't pulled an original idea for Mario out of their butt since Mario 64. Proof of this is New Super Mario Bros.CobraX said:
Your friends are in the minority then if they found the wii version worse than the xbox version. While it may be lacking in terms of graphics and online multiplayer, it more than made up for it in terms of aesthetic, local multiplayer and controls. There have been many other games that have been superior on the wii, e.g. The Godfather, Forgotten Sands, Guitar Hero, etc., so I don't see where this claim that they need to buy a 360 to get the best version comes from.mrpmpfan said:
I am ashamed to be sharing a planet with people who cannot comprehend other people having different opinions.Dragonforce525 said:
It's already been proven to work so we can rule this one out.
People have been saying the exact same thing about the wii and they were right there too![/sarcasm]
Seriously though, I think you might be correct there, I just suspect, with the brazen demeanour shown in your post, the route you took is likely flawed. The reason I believe we'll see a lack of quality titles is because the kinect will likely be seen as an expensive optional controller that few people will buy, so they won't bother putting a lot of money into a game that likely won't sell well. Evidence of this attitude is shown by the wii balance board & motion+. Neither of these items have many games that are compatible with them despite them being out for over 2/1 year respectively and improving on the current control scheme.
I would like it if the Kinect were to be successful, the Wii would finally get some decent competition in the casual/motion control crowds, I just don't see it happening this generation.
How is Guitar Hero better on the Wii? Because its $10 less expensive? Graphics take a huge hit plus without a proper amount of storage and a fair online system you don't get the awesome ability to expand the library of songs. Also customizing characters has been stripped out.10BIT said:
I have no idea if Godfather was better on the Wii because it was just an all around terrible title and sequel. Forgotten Sands, I would imagine it has to look like a dog...
Hmmm yup.
The Wii is best at its 1st party titles and party games. However Kinect will be ten times more fun to play party games on and Xbox is the only home for 3rd party titles.
Slightly, yes but in the end these devices are marketed towards families, the Wii costs £150 whereas the xbox with Kinect is about £300, which do you think a family will go for?
It depends. If in that family the father has the checkbook he is probably going to swing for the system that looks best on his new HDTV. Well seeing as how the Wii at its best is 420p it doesn't win.LightspeedJack said:
Also the Wii is $200 in the states and Kinect Bundle with the 36o is $300. However to have a complete 2nd controller set for the wii cost the following:
$40 for the Wiimote
$20 for the numchuck
$20 for the Wii motion plus
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$80
$200 - for the Wii
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$280
So now we are talking about a 20 buck difference. For what the 360 additionally has to offer $20 is not a deal breaker.
Also the bundle comes with a wireless Xbox controller for non-motion based games
To play non-motion based games you can turn a wii-mote sideways or pay yet another $20 for a classic controller...so they break even. But the classic controller has to be hooked into a wiimote...wii I have no idea.
Somehow I doubt that people will make that calculation in their head while quickly browsing in the supermarket. The fact of the matter is that the Wii alone costs less than the Xbox 360 with Kinect bundle, and the non-gamer segment won't have the time to work out they're both the same price in the long run and will just buy the Wii.mrpmpfan said:
Also, how many people who want a Wii for the motion controls will buy a classic controller with their initial purchase of the console as opposed to with the game that says they need it?
The wii base price is $200 and a second controller with nunchuck is $81.98. The kinect bundle is $300. Kinect can only have 2 people playing at once even though it can read 6 people. If you buy kinect and the 360 seperately you could afford ot get 3 people playing the wii for less moneymrpmpfan said: