Poll: Do you believe Kinect will hurt the Wii?

[Kukakkau]

It might hurt Wii a little bit but the Kinect is too expensive to really take off and most people interested in motion sensors already have a Wii anyway

Well I am interested in motion sensors and I don't have a Wii so I would say your statement is wrong. The Wii is not true motion sensing gameplay. Its more pre-determined movements will cause pre-determined animations on screen to occur.

On top of that how is $150 including a free game too expensive? I already stated Rock Band 2 and other band kit games sell like hot cakes when they sell close to if not $200 a kit.

Plus for those like me who own a Xbox but don't own a Wii, Kinect is a cheaper option by $50, plus however more money I would have to spend to get a few more controller sets.

Firstly I said most people interested in motion sensing - not all. Saying that because you haven't got a wii that my statement is wrong is a groundless statement to make.

Secondly take into consideration that you must own a 360 console first that actually adds in price compared to the Wii. A simple arcade console without a hardrive with natal will likely cost in excess of $300.

I'm from UK and I found it was £250 (£120 arcade and £130 natal - it costs more than the bare bones console) which is around $375 with just the free game to play.

And as for the Wii - getting it with just the standard Wii sports resort game is only £165 (around $247.50)

And as for bundles:
- £250 for 4GB 360 slim and kinect with the free game
- £190 for Wii with two new retail price games and the free game that comes with it

Thirdly Rock Band etc kits sell a lot because there isn't any alternative to them and that was a new fad. Motion sensing games have been going for a few years now.

 

[VanityGirl]

Doubtful. I see no way how this could be a Wii hurter. I don't see the Move as being a Wii hurter either.
The Wii is still the top selling console, I doubt that will change.

 

[Delusibeta]

No. Anyone intrested in the Wii already has one by now, hence Nintendo's declining sales. I think Microsoft's horribly overpriced Kinect, and will have to do a hell of a lot of marketing if it is going to go anywhere.

 

[CrankyStorming]

Fable 3 is a AAA title so thanks for playing. For fun here is a list of shovelware titles for the Wii:
Game Party
Ninjabread Man
Ghostbusters
Any and all movie licensed games
Anubis II
Escape from Bug Island
Price is Right
M&M Kart Racing
Carnival Games
Petz series
Bratz series

I had fun making this list but there were too many titles and it would take up a lot more time to make a complete list.

Ah yes, the shovelware argument. Completely void when you consider that the term "shovelware" is entirely subjective, and that the only Kinect game that's tried to be anything other than what the Wii can do adequately already is Child of Eden. Also, there's going to be a Kinect-based Game Party and most movie tie-ins end up on the Xbox as well as Ghostbusters.

Besides, the Wii library is a whole lot more varied and creative than the Xbox 360's range of uninspired one-hour FPSes, derivative racing games, the slaughtering of Rare's entire lineup and the occasional BioWare RPG with slightly awkward gameplay. Over the Wii's life-to-date the software library has included but not been limited to:
-Eledees - An action puzzler about tearing entire buildings off the ground.
-No More Heroes - Possibly the craziest, most stylish game ever developed(I know it wound up on other consoles in Japan, but we got it first).
-Madworld - Throwing people into jet turbines, need I say more?
-Fragile Dreams - Apocalyptic horror-RPG with some seriously freakish moments.
-The downloadable BitTrip series - Stylised rythm action with highly challenging gameplay.
-Sonic and the Secret Rings - A 3D Sonic game that isn't completely broken? Who'd have thought?
-de Blob - Really well-constructed colour-changing platformer.

Also, the Fable series has only ever got AAs in the aggregate scores, and adding motion controls to a largely traditional controller-based game will only make things feel weird. While I'm on the subject of aggregate scores, may I remind you that the highest-rated game of this console generation is a Wii-exclusive, and that the highest-rated FPS in history was made by Nintendo, go to Game Rankings and see for yourself.

But, let's be honest, does the casual gamer really care about any of what I or you have just said? They'll all be fine with what they've got already and just won't need Kinect, because it DOESN'T OFFER ANYTHING WE'VE NEVER SEEN BEFORE.

 

[JediMB]

my favorite example is how they re-released Pikmin with no improvements other than pointer controls and charged $50!

$30, and pointer controls is one hell of an improvement, since the somewhat clunky dual-analog controls was what turned me off the game for the Gamecube to begin with.

Plus, the entire point of the New Play Control line of games is to give people who didn't own a Gamecube the chance to play games they might not even have heard of during the previous generation. After all, the 'cube sold a mere 22 million units compared to the Wii's current 75+ million units.

 

[JediMB]

-The downloadable BitTrip series - Stylised rythm action with highly challenging gameplay.

Bit.Trip Beat is the devil. I've only ever managed to finish the first level. D:

 

[Grouchy Imp_v1legacy]

Kinect shouldn't affect Wii sales, simply because the XBox is aimed at a different audience demographic to the Nintendo.

Not that it makes the slightest difference to me, I couldn't care less about this whole motion-fad malarky.

 

[JediMB]

Well make a list of complete bombs for the N64. N64 was the beginning of the end of Nintendo completely giving up on quality checking the games it allowed on its system. Back in the Super Nintendo days they had a Nintendo Quality Seal which apparently was never used since.

A) The seal didn't actually mean anything.

Well, it meant that the game wouldn't break the console, and that it had been checked for inappropriate material.

Of course what inappropriate material is is rather subjective, and Nintendo had the most ridiculous censorship in video game history during the NES and SNES age.

 

[JediMB]

Well make a list of complete bombs for the N64. N64 was the beginning of the end of Nintendo completely giving up on quality checking the games it allowed on its system. Back in the Super Nintendo days they had a Nintendo Quality Seal which apparently was never used since.

A) The seal didn't actually mean anything.

Well, it meant that the game wouldn't break the console, and that it had been checked for inappropriate material.

Of course what inappropriate material is is rather subjective, and Nintendo had the most ridiculous censorship in video game history during the NES and SNES age.

Yes, but it didn't mean that the game would be any good. My point still stands.

Yeah, the NES era was notorious for having silly things like the occasional unbeatable game and stuff like that.

If anything, the Nintendo Seal of Quality disappearing just means that Nintendo have stopped with the nazi-like censorship. Which is sort of ironic, when you consider that the "regime" had all nazi-related content removed from the SNES release of Wolfenstein 3D.

 

[WaywardHaymaker]

I believe that Kinect will hurt the Wii, AND the 360, AND most of its target audience.

Seriously, who's idea was this?

 

[mrpmpfan]

my favorite example is how they re-released Pikmin with no improvements other than pointer controls and charged $50!

$30, and pointer controls is one hell of an improvement, since the somewhat clunky dual-analog controls was what turned me off the game for the Gamecube to begin with.

Plus, the entire point of the New Play Control line of games is to give people who didn't own a Gamecube the chance to play games they might not even have heard of during the previous generation. After all, the 'cube sold a mere 22 million units compared to the Wii's current 75+ million units.

Still to sell an old gamecube title for even $30 is a crime seeing is how the system can play gamecube titles and I am sure on ebay I could find the original pikmin for $1

 

[mrpmpfan]

I believe that Kinect will hurt the Wii, AND the 360, AND most of its target audience.

Seriously, who's idea was this?

How does the Xbox have a target audience? It carters to all audiences and now they want to give the best accessory to create some fun niche games. The awesome thing is, that its completely optional so if you aren't intrigue awesome. But for those who wasted their money on a Wii might be interested and may finally want to own a next gen system.

 

[WaywardHaymaker]

I believe that Kinect will hurt the Wii, AND the 360, AND most of its target audience.

Seriously, who's idea was this?

How does the Xbox have a target audience? It carters to all audiences and now they want to give the best accessory to create some fun niche games. The awesome thing is, that its completely optional so if you aren't intrigue awesome. But for those who wasted their money on a Wii might be interested and may finally want to own a next gen system.

I meant the Kinect's target audience. I just know that as soon as the thing come out, there'll be a wave of Youtube videos of people playing it and then falling over and breaking something.

 

[CrankyStorming]

How does the Xbox have a target audience? It carters to all audiences

I hadn't noticed, since pretty much all of it's major releases over the past five years have been aimed at people who want gratuitous violence and gore, not to mention online homophobia. There's very few quality E-rated games for that thing.

 

[mrpmpfan]

How does the Xbox have a target audience? It carters to all audiences

I hadn't noticed, since pretty much all of it's major releases over the past five years have been aimed at people who want gratuitous violence and gore, not to mention online homophobia. There's very few quality E-rated games for that thing.

Quality E-Rated Games for Xbox 360:
NCAA Football 11
Madden NFL 11
Tiger Woods PGA Tour 11
Forza Motorsport 3
Hasbro Family Game Night
MX vs. ATV Reflex
Need for Speed Shift
Project Gotham Racing 4
Pure
Viva Pinata 1 and 2
Mini Ninjas
Any of the Lego titles
Banjo Kazooie
Scene It
Rock Band and Guitar Hero (T-rated but Lego Rockband and Band Hero are E rated)

I could go on but you get the point. Xbox is not all blood and guts there are and has been good family/kids games. Kinect will also help introduce a ton too.

 

[Cinnamonfloss]

Wow someone is a Xbox fanboy, not pointing at anyone in particular
But yeah I think kinect will have an effect, but not mucu cause like ssomeone said earlier I think nintendo is too busy with the 3DS to care
this whole moTion control is just bull to me, but sadly I think after move and kinect there won't be any controllers anymore

 

[GonzoGamer]

Not at this point. Maybe if it came out a couple of years ago when Wiis were still really hard to find but Nintendo already saturated the market. I don't know anyone who wants a Kinect, at least not for $150.

 

[LightOfDarkness]

No, because Nintendo will just make another, cheaper add-on that will make the wii-mote much more accurate. Something to make the remote realize when it is being pointed sideways and moving left/right.

 

[Midnight Crossroads]

Fuck motion controls.

No one buys the Xbox360 for a family friendly experience. That's what the Wii is for, and that's where motion gaming belongs. Give me my controller and a horde of generic monsters to brutally slaughter. I'd also like to see my score go up based on how brutal it was. Bonus points for forcing the enemies to kill themselves out of fear.