For the most part, I can remember most of the US anthem, but there are times when I forget a few lines. As for feeling patriotic or any strong emotions when the anthem plays, I never feel much of anything. I put my hand on my heart, but I don't have any patriotic thoughts going through my head.Skullkid4187 said:Oh say can you see, By the Dawns early light what so proudly we hailed Whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there;
O! say does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
I'm guessing that is sarcasm? Hard to tell on the internetGrinningManiac said:"And was JERUSALEM builded here,Wadders said:I'm English Born and Bred, and I prefer your rousing anthem to God Save the Queen. Its the fuckin' dullest thing ever.GrinningManiac said:I refuse to sing God Save the Queen, because one of the verses talks about attacking 'The Scots'
Plus, its a GODAWFULLY BORING anthem
Thus:
"FLOWER OF SCO'-LAAAN
WHEN WILL WE SEE,
YER LIKES AGAIN?
THAT FO-UGH' AN DIEEED FOR
A WEE BI' A HILL AN' GLEN
AN' STOOD AGAINST THEM
ENGLAN'!
PROU' EDWARD'S AR-MEEEE
AN' SEN' THE HOO-OOME WARD
TAE THINK AGAIN"
We should get rid of god save the queen, and each country in the UK should just have it's own anthem and thats it. England should get Jerusalem![]()
On ENGLAND'S green and plea-sant land"
That's a good one
Yeah, I'm of the impression that nationalism is the main cause of pretty much any war, ever. (shameless generalization)Albert Einstein said:Nationalism is an infantile disease. It is the measles of mankind.
A bit of pride in your country is not Nationalism. You're right, nationalism is detestable, but knowing the National Anthem is not nationalism.oktalist said:I find nationalism detestable. My country is shit and so is yours (whoever is reading this, wherever you are).
Yea its all a bit pointless when you get down to it, like a lot of patriotism. Fair enough being proud of your country if you actually try and make it a better place.Wadders said:Hmm fair enough. Bearing in mind the song was written a long time ago though. As I'm sure you're aware, I dont think anyone who sings it these days really supports that sentiment any more. And besides, that verse is rarely sung, its only the first verse that's ever sung at footy and rugby matches.SuccessAndBiscuts said:Just to point out several Scottish people find "God save the queen" offensive because it at one point includedWadders said:I dont mind it as an overall UK anthem, but I would prefer if we English had our own anthem like the other countries in the UK do.
While I'm not anti-UK as such those "Rebellious Scots" include my clan several of whom were killed off. So I can't really say I'm comfortable hearing it used.Lord, grant that Marshal Wade,
May by thy mighty aid,
Victory bring.
May he sedition hush,
and like a torrent rush,
Rebellious Scots to crush,
God save the King.
Edit:
I do know "Flower of Scotland" though.
I'm sorry if it offends you, but I cant see us changing our national anthem just because a handful of Scotchmen take offense. Similarly, I could (although I dont) take offense at Flower of Scotland as it bears a bit of an anti-English sentiment. Quite rightly though as it's part of your heritage.![]()
I'm jealous of you guys for having such a kick-ass anthem. Like I said, us English should get our own anthem, hopefully as rousing as Flower of Scotland![]()
Sure. I was mainly disagreeing with all the posts saying that not having pride in your country is the worst thing ever. Of course knowing the national anthem is not nationalism.Wadders said:A bit of pride in your country is not Nationalism. You're right, nationalism is detestable, but knowing the National Anthem is not nationalism.oktalist said:I find nationalism detestable. My country is shit and so is yours (whoever is reading this, wherever you are).
Britain isnt shit. Sure it's not the best place in the world to live but there are far worse. If you think it's shit, try living in some 3rd world African hell-hole. I'm sure that will put a bit of perspective on things. Whatever issues you have with this country will pale in comparison to what people who live over there have to put up with.
In short: Be grateful, it could be a lot worse.
Maybe that's because we don't waste all our school time learning some theme song.quiet_samurai said:Are there people that actually don't? It's usually hammered into your brain as a child growing up here in the USA, what with school, sporting events, and the fact they teach you all about in when you are young I would suspect it's known by almost everyone in the USA. I fugured it would be more so in other countries since they are WAY higher then us on the education scale.
Blackadder goes forth? When he's interrogating Darling?Tharwen said:What? I remember no such episode!J03bot said:Unless they watch Blackadder.Tharwen said:Well, the first verse isn't exactly hard, as you said. The second and third are much harder to remember and most people don't even know they exist.
Patriotism is often an arbitrary veneration of real estate above principles.
Haha! I know Jerusalem is the WI anthem, but at least it's less dirge-like than God Save Our Queen. For some reason, it's always seemed a bit warlike in the last few verses for a WI meeting to me_tinned_magpie_ said:I don't think I could stand Jerusalem. Thanks to all the times my mother held WI meetings in our house, that thing haunts me. 'Rule Britannia' is alright - it's outdated as hell, but at least you can hum along.
OP: I'm patriotic about the little things in the UK. I still think we're going down the crapper, but at the same time the Queen is awesome and we've got Monty Python and lovely scenery. I just wish our anthem wasn't the essence of boring. It bugs me that we're expected to be patriotic about a dirge. If we're going to have a national anthem, give us one that makes us proud and enthusiastic, not sleepy. Thankfully I only know the first verse, I'd be there all day if I had to sing the other five too.
This is the part that I know by heart. However, seeing as there are three more stanzas that I only know a few of the words to, I chose "not all the words".Skullkid4187 said:Oh say can you see, By the Dawns early light what so proudly we hailed Whose broad stripes and bright stars through the perilous fight,
O'er the ramparts we watched, were so gallantly streaming?
And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there;
O! say does that star-spangled banner yet wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!