Poll: do you support the afghan war

[whycantibelinus]

It's all an excuse for American global dominance, which I don't support. I'm American and I think we are incredibly arrogant to think that there is not a single problem in the world that we can't fix or have to get involved in.

We are not the world police, and we should not act as such. We are a single country and should act in our own interests, nothing more. That means no bullying other countries into doing what we want them to do, no invading a country because they have a resource that is plentiful enough within our own country but decide we want to take theirs instead, and no setting up "democracies" in countries that were previously not but we changed them so that they would always agree with us.

I think it's shameful the way we have become, and the sad part about it is that we have now created so much dissent within other countries towards us that it would be extremely dangerous to us to just let them be now.

Just one lowly Americans opinion.

So...Your saying that we souldn't go after an enemy that attacked us but just act like nothing happened? Your views are twisted.

I don't think there is any need for us to occupy an entire country to do so. We used that as an excuse to take out the Taliban because they were harboring terrorists, if that's the logic why not invade Thailand or Malaysia? Plenty of terrorists there, plenty of Muslims in Malaysia also, which is the religion of Al-Queda. I think we should take out the organization but not an entire country. After the successful invasion the very first thing we did was send oil field speculator's over there, just a tad convenient that we can profit off of something like that, don't you think?

 

[Amnestic]

SEPTEMBER - ELEVEN
9 - 11

As you would say it.

We Brits do it properly.

11/9.

Fixed.

Day/Month/Year. It makes sense. Sliding scale upwards. Go look at the list [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendar_date#List_of_the_world_locations_by_date_format_in_use] of dating conventions. Guess who's in the minority? I'll give you a hint: It's not Britain.

Popquiz: What's the difference between the Taliban and Al-Qaeda?

EDIT: Oops... How do you delete a post?

PM a mod. Kuliani [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/profiles/view/Kuliani] is probably the one you want.

As for my views on Afghanistan: They have a crapload of Opium. You know how people say we went to Iraq for Oil? Same deal, different 'gold'.

 

[walls of cetepedes]

Fixed.

Day/Month/Year. It makes sense. Sliding scale upwards. Go look at the list [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendar_date#List_of_the_world_locations_by_date_format_in_use] of dating conventions. Guess who's in the minority? I'll give you a hint: It's not Britain.

Silly foreigners and their dates!

 

[ItsAChiaotzu]

SEPTEMBER - ELEVEN
9 - 11

As you would say it.

We Brits do it backwards.

11/9.

No! We do it normal, it's the 11th of September, not the September of the 11th. Bloody yanks.

 

[Amnestic]

Fixed.

Day/Month/Year. It makes sense. Sliding scale upwards. Go look at the list [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calendar_date#List_of_the_world_locations_by_date_format_in_use] of dating conventions. Guess who's in the minority? I'll give you a hint: It's not Britain.

Silly foreigners and their dates!

When you share your dating convention with the Federated States of Micronesia as one of the primary names on the list, you have to wonder if you've gone wrong somewhere.

I mean come on! It sounds like a made up video game country.

 

[whycantibelinus]

I don't support any war. Especially not this one.

Would you have supported WWI and WWII? Come on, really now....

Well definitely not WW1.

 

[Zombie_Fish]

1. Al Quaeda and the Taliban aren't the same as Afghanistan. Al Quaeda are an islamist, political activist/ terrorist organisation who blew up the World Trade Centre. Afghanistan is a country. Al Quaeda is actually based in many more places other than Afghanistan and are only a minority in that country anyway. They had nothing to do with 9/11.

2. Afghanistan has lost almost no wars in the country's history. They have defeated Russia, Iran and many other countries to boot. They will fight to the death for their country; America and England have no chance against them. Sending more soldiers in would be a waste of time and will just mean a higher body count for the same result.

3. Blowing up a trade centre doesn't ruin the economy. In a trade centre, money doesn't exist; it is stored electronically on computers both inside and outside of the building in the records of the seperate companies and only presented metaphorically in the form of shares. If the headquarters of every company in the World Trade Centre were attacked, then that would have a much greater effect on the economy than just blowing up a building where percentages of companies are sold.

Oh, and I'm against the war, by the way.

PS: Feel free to inform me if any of my points are wrong or not quite accurate; my knowledge on politics isn't as good as I would like it to be.

EDIT: Oops... How do you delete a post?

You can't delete them yourself. PM any of the people listed here [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.116827] and they can delete it for you.

 

[James Cassidy]

No! We do it normal, it's the 11th of September, not the September of the 11th. Bloody yanks.

Right....say who won the Revolutionary War again? Something about people wearing red coats in the middle of green foliage.

What's even worse is the French kicked your ass too....now THAT is embarrassing.

 

[Smagmuck_]

It's all an excuse for American global dominance, which I don't support. I'm American and I think we are incredibly arrogant to think that there is not a single problem in the world that we can't fix or have to get involved in.

We are not the world police, and we should not act as such. We are a single country and should act in our own interests, nothing more. That means no bullying other countries into doing what we want them to do, no invading a country because they have a resource that is plentiful enough within our own country but decide we want to take theirs instead, and no setting up "democracies" in countries that were previously not but we changed them so that they would always agree with us.

I think it's shameful the way we have become, and the sad part about it is that we have now created so much dissent within other countries towards us that it would be extremely dangerous to us to just let them be now.

Just one lowly Americans opinion.

So...Your saying that we souldn't go after an enemy that attacked us but just act like nothing happened? Your views are twisted.

I don't think there is any need for us to occupy an entire country to do so. We used that as an excuse to take out the Taliban because they were harboring terrorists, if that's the logic why not invade Thailand or Malaysia? Plenty of terrorists there, plenty of Muslims in Malaysia also, which is the religion of Al-Queda. I think we should take out the organization but not an entire country. After the successful invasion the very first thing we did was send oil field speculator's over there, just a tad convenient that we can profit off of something like that, don't you think?

Um, I'm pretty sure the Taliban controlled the entire country before we went in, and I think that the Thailand and Malaysian governments are aware that there are terrorists hiding in their country and are trying to do something about. Oh, also, before you say we went in there for the oil... It's FREAKIN' Afghanistan, most of it is moutains.

 

[Akai Shizuku]

I don't support any war. Especially not this one.

Would you have supported WWI and WWII? Come on, really now....

Of course not. I don't support the wars themselves, but I support the troops who went in and kicked Hitler's ass, most notably at Normandy, Stalingrad and Berlin. That was one of the few times in history where it was, as Yahtzee said, "a clear victory against an unambiguously evil enemy". It is unlikely such a war will occur again in the near future.

 

[Akai Shizuku]

It's all an excuse for American global dominance, which I don't support. I'm American and I think we are incredibly arrogant to think that there is not a single problem in the world that we can't fix or have to get involved in.

We are not the world police, and we should not act as such. We are a single country and should act in our own interests, nothing more. That means no bullying other countries into doing what we want them to do, no invading a country because they have a resource that is plentiful enough within our own country but decide we want to take theirs instead, and no setting up "democracies" in countries that were previously not but we changed them so that they would always agree with us.

I think it's shameful the way we have become, and the sad part about it is that we have now created so much dissent within other countries towards us that it would be extremely dangerous to us to just let them be now.

Just one lowly Americans opinion.

So...Your saying that we souldn't go after an enemy that attacked us but just act like nothing happened? Your views are twisted.

I don't think there is any need for us to occupy an entire country to do so. We used that as an excuse to take out the Taliban because they were harboring terrorists, if that's the logic why not invade Thailand or Malaysia? Plenty of terrorists there, plenty of Muslims in Malaysia also, which is the religion of Al-Queda. I think we should take out the organization but not an entire country. After the successful invasion the very first thing we did was send oil field speculator's over there, just a tad convenient that we can profit off of something like that, don't you think?

Um, I'm pretty sure the Taliban controlled the entire country before we went in, and I think that the Thailand and Malaysian governments are aware that there are terrorists hiding in their country and are trying to do something about. Oh, also, before you say we went in there for the oil... It's FREAKIN' Afghanistan, most of it is moutains.

Afghanistan and Iraq both have a hell of a lot of oil. That is a fact. Look it up.
/debate

 

[ItsAChiaotzu]

No! We do it normal, it's the 11th of September, not the September of the 11th. Bloody yanks.

Right....say who won the Revolutionary War again? Something about people wearing red coats in the middle of green foliage.

What's even worse is the French kicked your ass too....now THAT is embarrassing.

Yes, you and your massive human resources can fight wars, doesn't change the fact that you still can't write the date properly.

 

[whycantibelinus]

It's all an excuse for American global dominance, which I don't support. I'm American and I think we are incredibly arrogant to think that there is not a single problem in the world that we can't fix or have to get involved in.

We are not the world police, and we should not act as such. We are a single country and should act in our own interests, nothing more. That means no bullying other countries into doing what we want them to do, no invading a country because they have a resource that is plentiful enough within our own country but decide we want to take theirs instead, and no setting up "democracies" in countries that were previously not but we changed them so that they would always agree with us.

I think it's shameful the way we have become, and the sad part about it is that we have now created so much dissent within other countries towards us that it would be extremely dangerous to us to just let them be now.

Just one lowly Americans opinion.

So...Your saying that we souldn't go after an enemy that attacked us but just act like nothing happened? Your views are twisted.

I don't think there is any need for us to occupy an entire country to do so. We used that as an excuse to take out the Taliban because they were harboring terrorists, if that's the logic why not invade Thailand or Malaysia? Plenty of terrorists there, plenty of Muslims in Malaysia also, which is the religion of Al-Queda. I think we should take out the organization but not an entire country. After the successful invasion the very first thing we did was send oil field speculator's over there, just a tad convenient that we can profit off of something like that, don't you think?

Um, I'm pretty sure the Taliban controlled the entire country before we went in, and I think that the Thailand and Malaysian governments are aware that there are terrorists hiding in their country and are trying to do something about. Oh, also, before you say we went in there for the oil... It's FREAKIN' Afghanistan, most of it is moutains.

Right, I forgot, oil doesn't grow in the mountains.

In all seriousness, why not send a CIA assassin to take out the leaders of Al-Queda and a CIA demo crew to take out the bases/training areas and then problem solved. No need to send thousands and thousands of troops to risk their lives when the problem could easily be taken care of by spec-ops.

We did use it as an excuse to take out the Taliban, make no mistake about that, America had been looking for a reason to go do it since 1996.

 

[Smagmuck_]

It's all an excuse for American global dominance, which I don't support. I'm American and I think we are incredibly arrogant to think that there is not a single problem in the world that we can't fix or have to get involved in.

We are not the world police, and we should not act as such. We are a single country and should act in our own interests, nothing more. That means no bullying other countries into doing what we want them to do, no invading a country because they have a resource that is plentiful enough within our own country but decide we want to take theirs instead, and no setting up "democracies" in countries that were previously not but we changed them so that they would always agree with us.

I think it's shameful the way we have become, and the sad part about it is that we have now created so much dissent within other countries towards us that it would be extremely dangerous to us to just let them be now.

Just one lowly Americans opinion.

So...Your saying that we souldn't go after an enemy that attacked us but just act like nothing happened? Your views are twisted.

I don't think there is any need for us to occupy an entire country to do so. We used that as an excuse to take out the Taliban because they were harboring terrorists, if that's the logic why not invade Thailand or Malaysia? Plenty of terrorists there, plenty of Muslims in Malaysia also, which is the religion of Al-Queda. I think we should take out the organization but not an entire country. After the successful invasion the very first thing we did was send oil field speculator's over there, just a tad convenient that we can profit off of something like that, don't you think?

Um, I'm pretty sure the Taliban controlled the entire country before we went in, and I think that the Thailand and Malaysian governments are aware that there are terrorists hiding in their country and are trying to do something about. Oh, also, before you say we went in there for the oil... It's FREAKIN' Afghanistan, most of it is moutains.

Afghanistan and Iraq both have a hell of a lot of oil. That is a fact. Look it up.
/debate

Hmm, I believe I shall, you challenge is accepted good sir! LOL.

 

[Amnestic]

No! We do it normal, it's the 11th of September, not the September of the 11th. Bloody yanks.

Right....say who won the Revolutionary War again? Something about people wearing red coats in the middle of green foliage.

What's even worse is the French kicked your ass too....now THAT is embarrassing.

Oh, sorry what's that? I couldn't hear you, I was too busy having a history which lasted more than half a milennia.

And you guys elected Bush for eight years.

Right, I forgot, oil doesn't grow in the mountains.

In all seriousness, why not send a CIA assassin to take out the leaders of Al-Queda and a CIA demo crew to take out the bases/training areas and then problem solved. No need to send thousands and thousands of troops to risk their lives when the problem could easily be taken care of by spec-ops.

Because video games aren't like reality.

 

[Smagmuck_]

It's all an excuse for American global dominance, which I don't support. I'm American and I think we are incredibly arrogant to think that there is not a single problem in the world that we can't fix or have to get involved in.

We are not the world police, and we should not act as such. We are a single country and should act in our own interests, nothing more. That means no bullying other countries into doing what we want them to do, no invading a country because they have a resource that is plentiful enough within our own country but decide we want to take theirs instead, and no setting up "democracies" in countries that were previously not but we changed them so that they would always agree with us.

I think it's shameful the way we have become, and the sad part about it is that we have now created so much dissent within other countries towards us that it would be extremely dangerous to us to just let them be now.

Just one lowly Americans opinion.

So...Your saying that we souldn't go after an enemy that attacked us but just act like nothing happened? Your views are twisted.

I don't think there is any need for us to occupy an entire country to do so. We used that as an excuse to take out the Taliban because they were harboring terrorists, if that's the logic why not invade Thailand or Malaysia? Plenty of terrorists there, plenty of Muslims in Malaysia also, which is the religion of Al-Queda. I think we should take out the organization but not an entire country. After the successful invasion the very first thing we did was send oil field speculator's over there, just a tad convenient that we can profit off of something like that, don't you think?

Um, I'm pretty sure the Taliban controlled the entire country before we went in, and I think that the Thailand and Malaysian governments are aware that there are terrorists hiding in their country and are trying to do something about. Oh, also, before you say we went in there for the oil... It's FREAKIN' Afghanistan, most of it is moutains.

Right, I forgot, oil doesn't grow in the mountains.

In all seriousness, why not send a CIA assassin to take out the leaders of Al-Queda and a CIA demo crew to take out the bases/training areas and then problem solved. No need to send thousands and thousands of troops to risk their lives when the problem could easily be taken care of by spec-ops.

We did use it as an excuse to take out the Taliban, make no mistake about that, America had been looking for a reason to go do it since 1996.

I can see through your sarcasm, I didn't say that there wasn't oil in the mountains, it's just that is almost impossible to hual the equipment nessecary to get it up there, and Bin Laden is possobly hiding in Pakastan but since they're un-coopritive it's not an easy job and we have to accept their borders if they don't want us in and even if they are an admitably questional ally.

 

[Supreme Unleaded]

Afghanastan.

You can't even spell the country you're at war with!

that is the country where the poeple who started the fucking (please excuse my french) of americas econemy

Woah, woah. So 11/9 caused all of the current issues with the US Economy? Really?

And yeah, I said 11/9. That's because 9/11 is the 9th of November.

by killing thousands and blowing up the world trade center are based. i for one definatly support that war

Popquiz: What's the difference between the Taliban and Al-Qaeda?

sorry about my spelling because no matter how hard i try im no good at ai. and it messed up the econemy because it was an econimic center that was attacked. because it was destroyed it could no longer be used and the damage caused was very expensive. thats why, or atleast thats part of the damage done to the econemy over the years

Lmao. Thats some epic fail right there. 9/11 has NOTHING to do with the state of the economy, learn what you're on about before you talk about it.

However I do support the war, purely because the Taliban are tyrannical, and Muslim law is just....awful.

Acually 9/11 (or 11/9 in french) did play a part in the ecinomi crysis, sure not a ginormos part but the cost of keeping troops active is a large sum. Plus many munitions are billions of dollars a peice. Just saying

 

[Dr. Thunder]

Of course, where else would we put our bullets?

 

[Jark212]

However I do support the war, purely because the Taliban are tyrannical, and Muslim law is just....awful.

People say that we lost the middle east wars, but they fail to see that Iraq is now a stable country, how it stays depends on the Corrupt Iraqi government ans security forces... The Taliban are in complete disarray and are starting to turn on each other over which faction takes over due to our drone strikes. The Afghan government is 10x worse corruption-wise than Iraq, but with our forces shifting into Afghanistan that should subside. The lack of other nations committing troops to the effort helps reinstate Americas dominance on the world stage.

 

[Amnestic]

Of course, where else would we put our bullets?

Each other? [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_War]