Poll: do you support the afghan war

[Haunted Serenity]

NATO needs to stay the fuck in to be able to strike Iran at a pin drop should they try anything. The US can already hit Israel from Iraq, but for some reason western civilization isn't as critical of them, even though they are by far the most dangerous.

Why is Israel so dangerous? Iran is menacing yes but i'm pretty sure they don't want a war they can't win. Their internal structure is so messed that soon as war breaks out they'll disolve into different factions trying to get full control.

What about Egypt, Saudi Arabia or Pakistan? All have large numbers of terrorists in them but Israel is more dangerous? They have stable government control and a western/world friendly people. I know because I know alot of people from Israel.

 

[Ancientgamer]

Afghanastan.

You can't even spell the country you're at war with!

that is the country where the poeple who started the fucking (please excuse my french) of americas econemy

Woah, woah. So 11/9 caused all of the current issues with the US Economy? Really?

And yeah, I said 11/9. That's because 9/11 is the 9th of November.

Strictly speaking, the world trade center attack played a small part in the minor recessions of the early 2000s, though it has nothing to do with the current situation.

Furthermore, the guy's french, stop making an ass of yourself by trying to make fun of his spelling.

And Al-Qaeda is currently believed to be based in the mountainous regions of Afghanistan\Pakistan.

 

[Haunted Serenity]

Yes
The Taliban was aiding terrorists who are now mostly in pakistan. If we leave afghanistan now, all the work thats been done will fall apart. Next, we are training the afghans to protect themselves but that takes time. The canadian forces have been over there and my cousin and myself also, i'm not letting all the people who have died trying to bring equality and free will(within reason for example you can't go burn someones house down and say but i have free will) go to waste.

good point there, but (i'm not actually against it) say, why were you there in the first place?

Because my squad voted to go(reservists volunteer), we transferred over to the Full time soldiers and went.

i'd return but i have a desk job now....bloody promotions

 

[Dancingman]

i can see why many people do not support the war in iraq but what i dont get is why they dont support the war in Afghanastan. that is the country where the poeple who started the fucking (please excuse my french) of americas econemy by killing thousands and blowing up the world trade center are based. i for one definatly support that war

Please don't do the cursing and improve your spelling, those things make your arguments look unrefined and rather uncouth, it also makes people who share your viewpoint, such as myself look bad.

And by the way, Afghanistan didn't do it, saying an entire country did it is almost always wrong because it opens the door for all kinds of bad thinking (the Hutus would have said things like that about the Tutsis in Rwanda). Al-Qaeda, an Islamic militant organization controlled by Osama Bin Laden committed 9/11, who in turn were funded by the former government of Afghanistan, the Taliban. The Taliban is now an insurgency movement in Afghanistan, as well as neighboring Pakistan (the only Islamic nation in the world with nuclear weapons) a nation that is providing a good deal of aid in the Afghan War. Anyway, I'll elaborate more when you respond, as I get rather tired of posting long counterarguments and then getting no response.

 

[ReincarnatedFTP]

Yes. We went to war in Afghanistan because they wouldn't hand over Al Qaeda's leader and public face to the world.(Basically we did some things in agreements that the Taliban didn't like and they wouldn't hand him over, AQ wasn't on the best of terms with them and neither was OBL, but it was a way to say NEENER NEENER NEENER and Bush later labeled the Iranian government as part of the Axis of Evil after they agreed to help us in Afghanistan.).Of course he's probably dead now, but even if we don't get rid of all the terrorists, I want to see the Taliban destroyed.

And at the current rate of attacks on their northern border, I think Pakistan is starting to hate them twice as much we do.

 

[Vuljatar]

No, I don't support the war. And my reason is very simple: It isn't worth the money, lives, and effort.

We have spent trillions of dollars and around 800 lives in that war, and far more in Iraq, and for what? What do we, the American people, get out of it?

Bringing "equality" and "free will" and all is perfectly well and good but why is it our responsibility? I can think of a hundred ways that money could have been put to better use right here in the U.S.A.

 

[steroidaided]

Honestly, and leave the people to the Taliban?

 

[tipp6353]

NATO needs to stay the fuck in to be able to strike Iran at a pin drop should they try anything. The US can already hit Israel from Iraq, but for some reason western civilization isn't as critical of them, even though they are by far the most dangerous.

lol NATO? NATO just sits on their ass, the U.S needs to send in the Marines and why the fuck would America attack Israel that make no sense

 

[steroidaided]

send in the Marines..? how much would that accomplish ..in your opinion?

 

[ottenni]

Yes. The Taliban were responsible for huge amounts of humanitarian abuses and the destruction of sites of religious importance, but more importantly their horrible human rights abuses.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taliban_treatment_of_women thats a good link. They also controlled a very large opium trade.

And why is everyone talking about oil? Is Afghanistan and Iraq producing as much oil now as it did before the war? And more importantly does the US make more money out of said oil than they are spending on the war?

 

[soren7550]

I was nine when the World Trade Center and Pentagon was attacked. I was in Long Island at the time. More than half the kids at school were taken out because terrified parents didn't know what to do and because they feared of what would happen to their kids. Because of the terrorist attacks on New York, my state, my whole country, thousands are dead and several children at that school have no father. One of the teachers there almost lost her husband and brother. At my current school, one of the women in the office no longer has her son. A woman I know who was a EMT at the time is dying due to respiratory problems that developed after trying to recover survivors from Ground Zero. She spent a lot of time picking up the scattered remains of people and had to deal with carrying baby that died as a result of the attacks. She's now suffering from mental problems as well.

Bin Laden and his cronies attacked both my state and my country. They pointlessly killed thousands of innocents for what? To implant fear into a nation of people who are always going out on a limb to help other nations while we ourselves aren't doing so well? The coward and all his associates deserve nothing less than death and I and every New Yorker will not find peace until Bin Laden is dead.
What kind of New Yorker and American would I be if I didn't support the war?

 

[Dancingman]

Wow, this thread is going to Hell in a handbasket, oh well. I'll just get in before the lock and say that I hate it when young kids who don't know half a damn about the issue try and talk about it, I mean it's okay on places like Gamespot but this is the Escapist.

 

[steroidaided]

everyone should get to state their opinion..

 

[Dancingman]

I was nine when the World Trade Center and Pentagon was attacked. I was in Long Island at the time. More than half the kids at school were taken out because terrified parents didn't know what to do and because they feared of what would happen to their kids. Because of the terrorist attacks on New York, my state, my whole country, thousands are dead and several children at that school have no father. One of the teachers there almost lost her husband and brother. At my current school, one of the women in the office no longer has her son. A woman I know who was a EMT at the time is dying due to respiratory problems that developed after trying to recover survivors from Ground Zero. She spent a lot of time picking up the scattered remains of people and had to deal with carrying baby that died as a result of the attacks. She's now suffering from mental problems as well.

Bin Laden and his cronies attacked both my state and my country. They pointlessly killed thousands of innocents for what? To implant fear into a nation of people who are always going out on a limb to help other nations while we ourselves aren't doing so well? The coward and all his associates deserve nothing less than death and I and every New Yorker will not find peace until Bin Laden is dead.
What kind of New Yorker and American would I be if I didn't support the war?

Amen to that comrade! Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of all who threaten it!

 

[ucciolord1]

We shouldn't have a war there. We had a war there. It was about as justified as a war can be, which isn't saying a lot. We fixed a problem, and then we forgot about it while a man with an I.Q score of 49 went about hallucinating about bombs and scary people in turbans, about the same time Afghanistan went to hell. We should concentrate on securing whatever we have there, building bridges and schools and launching that country into the 21'st century. We should be giving them what they need to survive, not killing them.
But I do see the other side. How is anything worse than the Taliban?
Answer: The Taliban AND The USA

 

[L33tsauce_Marty]

Those were the people we should have gone after in the first place not Iraq.

But i have no idea what the hell you are talking about.

 

[Haunted Serenity]

NATO needs to stay the fuck in to be able to strike Iran at a pin drop should they try anything. The US can already hit Israel from Iraq, but for some reason western civilization isn't as critical of them, even though they are by far the most dangerous.

Why is Israel so dangerous? Iran is menacing yes but i'm pretty sure they don't want a war they can't win. Their internal structure is so messed that soon as war breaks out they'll disolve into different factions trying to get full control.

What about Egypt, Saudi Arabia or Pakistan? All have large numbers of terrorists in them but Israel is more dangerous? They have stable government control and a western/world friendly people. I know because I know alot of people from Israel.

I know alot of nice people from Iran. The "nice people" argument is invalid. Israel is dangerous because of their nuclear weapons, which they were just about to use on the Yom Kippur war.

Anyone who had nuclear weapons was about to use them in 1970's? Pakistan has nuclear weapons as well you know.

 

[Haunted Serenity]

I was nine when the World Trade Center and Pentagon was attacked. I was in Long Island at the time. More than half the kids at school were taken out because terrified parents didn't know what to do and because they feared of what would happen to their kids. Because of the terrorist attacks on New York, my state, my whole country, thousands are dead and several children at that school have no father. One of the teachers there almost lost her husband and brother. At my current school, one of the women in the office no longer has her son. A woman I know who was a EMT at the time is dying due to respiratory problems that developed after trying to recover survivors from Ground Zero. She spent a lot of time picking up the scattered remains of people and had to deal with carrying baby that died as a result of the attacks. She's now suffering from mental problems as well.

Bin Laden and his cronies attacked both my state and my country. They pointlessly killed thousands of innocents for what? To implant fear into a nation of people who are always going out on a limb to help other nations while we ourselves aren't doing so well? The coward and all his associates deserve nothing less than death and I and every New Yorker will not find peace until Bin Laden is dead.
What kind of New Yorker and American would I be if I didn't support the war?

"Kill one terroize one thousand" Sun Tzu.

Best of Luck to you and the people you know who survived.

 

[Haunted Serenity]

NATO needs to stay the fuck in to be able to strike Iran at a pin drop should they try anything. The US can already hit Israel from Iraq, but for some reason western civilization isn't as critical of them, even though they are by far the most dangerous.

Why is Israel so dangerous? Iran is menacing yes but i'm pretty sure they don't want a war they can't win. Their internal structure is so messed that soon as war breaks out they'll disolve into different factions trying to get full control.

What about Egypt, Saudi Arabia or Pakistan? All have large numbers of terrorists in them but Israel is more dangerous? They have stable government control and a western/world friendly people. I know because I know alot of people from Israel.

I know alot of nice people from Iran. The "nice people" argument is invalid. Israel is dangerous because of their nuclear weapons, which they were just about to use on the Yom Kippur war.

Anyone who had nuclear weapons was about to use them in 1970's? Pakistan has nuclear weapons as well you know.

Pakistan is in Asia, not the ME.

The middle east is on the Asian Continent! same world, same part of world!