Poll: Does being racist instantly make you a bad person?
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Being a person living all the way down under in AUSTRALIA, and to add insult to that injury ADELIADE, I have heard this question a lot in relation to the Aboriginals.
The Aboriginal community in our beautiful land are currently being spoon fed money from our government and continue to be productive and spend this money on drugs. Many stories that are slyly avoided by the media in favour of someone fighting off depression while walking along the shores of their nearest beach, include those of which Aboriginal communities in Alice Springs raping girls in the boarding school next door. Now while this may sound like me being a ***** to the overall Aboriginal community, I actually quite like them. I do think that their culture is unique and that they have a hard time keeping their culture alive in this cruel and industrious world. However, this does not explain why the government haven't taken this as a bigger issue than let?s say, the amount of money spent on a new football oval (in a way).
I guess the point of that whole paragraph is this: It does not make you a bad person to hate someone of a different race to your own. It DOES make you MORE of a bad person if you continuously judge them all the same way. As I mentioned before, they do have a hard time keeping their culture alive however there is a difference between 'keeping culture alive' and 'milking sympathy and money from the people' that the government doesn't distinguish.
I look at it this way, if a perfectly acceptable white man was raised in the same social hell hole that the Aboriginals are in, I would not hold is against them to spend all their money on drugs. If they don't need to work for their money, why should they? I feel the same way about the Aboriginals. Yes, they do have it harder than anyone else to get accepted into society however it does not stop them from trying. I think the main villains of this are the Government. Mr Rudd saying sorry is good and all but if you're not doing anything past that it's completely useless. Throwing money at them in the vain hope that they might use it on their children?s education is stupid and is only postponing the issue.
In the end the Aboriginals of Australia are a race of people that are under appreciated. The government doesn't seem to know what to do with them and what they try to do is seemingly stupid and without meaning. For example changing parts of the constitution to say that 'We recognise that this is Aboriginal land'. We do. So instead of stating it in writing how about letting them in on the action?
I am starting to hate National Reconciliation Week over here...
The Aboriginal community in our beautiful land are currently being spoon fed money from our government and continue to be productive and spend this money on drugs. Many stories that are slyly avoided by the media in favour of someone fighting off depression while walking along the shores of their nearest beach, include those of which Aboriginal communities in Alice Springs raping girls in the boarding school next door. Now while this may sound like me being a ***** to the overall Aboriginal community, I actually quite like them. I do think that their culture is unique and that they have a hard time keeping their culture alive in this cruel and industrious world. However, this does not explain why the government haven't taken this as a bigger issue than let?s say, the amount of money spent on a new football oval (in a way).
I guess the point of that whole paragraph is this: It does not make you a bad person to hate someone of a different race to your own. It DOES make you MORE of a bad person if you continuously judge them all the same way. As I mentioned before, they do have a hard time keeping their culture alive however there is a difference between 'keeping culture alive' and 'milking sympathy and money from the people' that the government doesn't distinguish.
I look at it this way, if a perfectly acceptable white man was raised in the same social hell hole that the Aboriginals are in, I would not hold is against them to spend all their money on drugs. If they don't need to work for their money, why should they? I feel the same way about the Aboriginals. Yes, they do have it harder than anyone else to get accepted into society however it does not stop them from trying. I think the main villains of this are the Government. Mr Rudd saying sorry is good and all but if you're not doing anything past that it's completely useless. Throwing money at them in the vain hope that they might use it on their children?s education is stupid and is only postponing the issue.
In the end the Aboriginals of Australia are a race of people that are under appreciated. The government doesn't seem to know what to do with them and what they try to do is seemingly stupid and without meaning. For example changing parts of the constitution to say that 'We recognise that this is Aboriginal land'. We do. So instead of stating it in writing how about letting them in on the action?
I am starting to hate National Reconciliation Week over here...
I would not piss on a racist if they were on fire and I had been holding it all day. I would walk around them and let them see I was peeing instead of putting them out.
There is NO excuse for racism for ANY nationality EVER! If you had a bad experience with one asshole person of a certain oragin then do not blame the skin tone blame the fucking d-bag who started it.
That is like saying "that cat scratched me! I will dedicate my entire life to killing all cats I see because that one hurt me!" Sounds stupid right? Well so does hating some one for skin color!!!
There is NO excuse for racism for ANY nationality EVER! If you had a bad experience with one asshole person of a certain oragin then do not blame the skin tone blame the fucking d-bag who started it.
That is like saying "that cat scratched me! I will dedicate my entire life to killing all cats I see because that one hurt me!" Sounds stupid right? Well so does hating some one for skin color!!!
I wouldn't necessarily say it makes them a bad person. My father is an extremely racist person. Even though it can cloud his judgement, he is in no shape or form a bad person. He works very hard and loves his family and friends. I think what would make him a bad person is if he acted on those beliefs and chose to hurt or single out people based on his opinions. But I don't believe he would actually do that. Other than that, it's nothing more than an opinion. Everyone might have slightly racist views whether they want ot admit it or not. Trying to talk someone out of those opinions is only going to exacerbate it. It's something they have to learn on their own.
Yes, generally being racist makes you a bad person, for lack of vision. Prejudice of any kind makes you a bad person, though. Just another way to pretend you have the faintest idea of who someone is or how they act, based on -insert inane stupidity here-.Sparrow said:
That said, I'm racist against Pinoys, or at least I think I am. I've yet to meet one that's a good example of a human being and not some entitled loudmouth prick. I'm sure they're out there somewhere, but logically from my PoV, they don't exist.
They are more likely to be a bad person but then again they could just be stupid or their parents were racist nutjobs and brainwashed them
I'd say it just makes you a confused and badly-brought up person. Almost all of the racists I know have parents who are the same, I think it's probably that that affects it (although I don't honestly know if they've done studies into it). But yeah, it would definitely make me reconsider someone as a friend if they were out-and-out racist towards black people or something.
I'd be sad, but I wouldn't reject somebody simply because of that one thing.
Now if they'd committed violence against somebody because of race, that would have been a different story.
Now if they'd committed violence against somebody because of race, that would have been a different story.
I'd be sad, but I wouldn't reject somebody simply because of that one thing.
Now if they'd committed violence against somebody because of race, that would have been a different story.
Now if they'd committed violence against somebody because of race, that would have been a different story.
No, why would it? I know plenty of racists and not all of them are white like most would assume. I'm not a racist per-say, however I AM very much prejudice.
Wait. THey are not bad, because if they are bad, you are bad, and you couldn't possibly be bad because you realize your wrongs? Is that what you mean?Xavier78 said:
OT: Yeah, it makes them a bad person to a degree. If I have to explain why, then you obviously are not going into any sort of human relations work.
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And I just saw the pole. Escapist, I just don't get your logic. You have failed me......
Bad? No. Misinformed, yes.
If the person in question were my friend, I would ask them why they do not like people "of that color". Sometimes it's a fairly strange reason- you know, a person of that color did something bad to me when I was young, therefore they are all bad, or "my parents taught me not to trust people of that color". If they are a thinking person, you might be able to reason them out of it. "That person who hurt you was also male. Are all men bad because he was a man, too?" or "Are your parents right about everything? If not, why do think they will be right in this instance?"
I have friends of every color. Their color isn't as important as the fact that they are my friends. And yes, I have prejudices of my own. Once, I was in NYC, and I had to take the 2 Train out to Brooklyn to meet her by myself (at the time, I lived in the 'burbs). And I was reading a book, because she lived at the far end of Brooklyn. At one stop, I looked up, and I was the only white person in the subway car. I felt a flash of unreasoning fear. I was alone in a car where everyone was so different from me. I felt very alone.
At the next stop, a black transit cop came and stood over me, and I felt immediately better. No matter his color, he was there to protect people on the train, and I no longer felt so alone. I'm not sure if that counts as me being bigoted, but that was my experience. Since then, I have tried to treat everyone the same. Color, race, sex, orientation- people are people. None of the other stuff matters.
If the person in question were my friend, I would ask them why they do not like people "of that color". Sometimes it's a fairly strange reason- you know, a person of that color did something bad to me when I was young, therefore they are all bad, or "my parents taught me not to trust people of that color". If they are a thinking person, you might be able to reason them out of it. "That person who hurt you was also male. Are all men bad because he was a man, too?" or "Are your parents right about everything? If not, why do think they will be right in this instance?"
I have friends of every color. Their color isn't as important as the fact that they are my friends. And yes, I have prejudices of my own. Once, I was in NYC, and I had to take the 2 Train out to Brooklyn to meet her by myself (at the time, I lived in the 'burbs). And I was reading a book, because she lived at the far end of Brooklyn. At one stop, I looked up, and I was the only white person in the subway car. I felt a flash of unreasoning fear. I was alone in a car where everyone was so different from me. I felt very alone.
At the next stop, a black transit cop came and stood over me, and I felt immediately better. No matter his color, he was there to protect people on the train, and I no longer felt so alone. I'm not sure if that counts as me being bigoted, but that was my experience. Since then, I have tried to treat everyone the same. Color, race, sex, orientation- people are people. None of the other stuff matters.
In and of itself, no. But I'd argue that if someone's racist, it's pretty likely they'll have a lot of other bad qualities too.
It's kind of like asking "Does being raised by Republicans make you stupid?" or "Does being raised by Democrats make you a Godless sodomite?" (Disclaimer: I like to bash everyone equally so no one feels left out. These were jokes intended to invoke laughter and do not necessarily reflect my opinion. So take the stick out of your ass and laugh, damn it)
Not necessarily, but it's certainly gonna help.
It's kind of like asking "Does being raised by Republicans make you stupid?" or "Does being raised by Democrats make you a Godless sodomite?" (Disclaimer: I like to bash everyone equally so no one feels left out. These were jokes intended to invoke laughter and do not necessarily reflect my opinion. So take the stick out of your ass and laugh, damn it)
Not necessarily, but it's certainly gonna help.
"Yes" is my sure answer, and I'm shocked to hear that so many have voted "no".
The person in the example is saying that they don't like certain people on the basis of their colour. Not only is this clearly racist, and thereby intolerant, but the idea of liking or disliking on the basis of race is scientifically a moot point, so any "reasons" for disliking that type of person are therefore unverified claims.
Not only is any person with these views intolerant, they are also ignorant. The words "bad person", however ugly and judgemental they may be, more apply to them than to the more enlightened citizens who understand that colour is skin deep, and does not define the qualities of the person. Martin Luther King and others have fought and died so that we could not pretend that this sort of attitude is okay or correct. It is to spit on their kind legacy to say that racism is anything more than a sign of weakness or stupidity.
I should point out to all those who think that racism is okay as long as "you don't act on it", newsflash: having those beliefs and living with them is acting on it, whether you enter any related scenarios or not. We pass on our attitudes to our children and to our peers. Ergo, any kind of stupidity risks being spread through these social spheres, and it is every single person's responsibility not to sink into such diseases of the unconscious mind. If everyone was so lazy about their personal philosophies during the Age of Enlightenment, society would be back in the Dark Ages.
I request that those who think that it's just fine to believe something stupid if you don't turn it into violence to think more carefully about the power of the mind. Think of the power of communications in the ultra-connected world that we live in today. Things have never been so simple as acting or not acting, and they are even less so in the modern era.
The person in the example is saying that they don't like certain people on the basis of their colour. Not only is this clearly racist, and thereby intolerant, but the idea of liking or disliking on the basis of race is scientifically a moot point, so any "reasons" for disliking that type of person are therefore unverified claims.
Not only is any person with these views intolerant, they are also ignorant. The words "bad person", however ugly and judgemental they may be, more apply to them than to the more enlightened citizens who understand that colour is skin deep, and does not define the qualities of the person. Martin Luther King and others have fought and died so that we could not pretend that this sort of attitude is okay or correct. It is to spit on their kind legacy to say that racism is anything more than a sign of weakness or stupidity.
I should point out to all those who think that racism is okay as long as "you don't act on it", newsflash: having those beliefs and living with them is acting on it, whether you enter any related scenarios or not. We pass on our attitudes to our children and to our peers. Ergo, any kind of stupidity risks being spread through these social spheres, and it is every single person's responsibility not to sink into such diseases of the unconscious mind. If everyone was so lazy about their personal philosophies during the Age of Enlightenment, society would be back in the Dark Ages.
I request that those who think that it's just fine to believe something stupid if you don't turn it into violence to think more carefully about the power of the mind. Think of the power of communications in the ultra-connected world that we live in today. Things have never been so simple as acting or not acting, and they are even less so in the modern era.
Evil? No, that's a big word. A bad person? Yes I think so. Being an honest racist displays a level of immense ignorance and stupidity. To judge someone on the colour of their skin is one of the most retarded things ever. It can in not a single way be justified, there is not a single shred of logic that supports it. I don't want to associate myself with people who do.