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j-e-f-f-e-r-s post=9.68355.632547 said:
fluffylandmine post=9.68355.631504 said:
i'm an american and i was raised virtually the same way you were except i watched die hard, most movies with leslie neilson, JAWS, the good starwars, and mel brookes movies, and jurrasic park, all funny, but mature right? well i saw them at much younger ages than 10, and i am actually smarter and more sophisticated than my peers, and i have only exhibited a spark of insanity through out my life and that was just enough insanity to make me funnier and bit more interesting like a random thoughts that turn out to be funny, not like haha he's on fire don't help, just watch.sort of like my idea of the bacon flavored treat.
You claim to be smarter than your peers, yet you barely grasp how grammar or structure work. There's irony in them there hills...

what i must say is that my parents raised me right and knew i was slightly more mature, much like my older sister is. they knew when we were ready because they listened to us and not many parents do now and they seem to have the idea i must tell tell tell all there is instead of listening to or for issues.

what i'm trying to say is if the parents of the columbine shooters had listened to why they felt so frustaited to a point where death was on the menu.
Let me tell you something, sport. Mature people don't brag about mature they are. Immature people do. A truly mature person, rather than wasting precious conversation space saying "Oh, I'm mature, my parents trust me, blah blah", will actually contribute something that goes beyond ego massaging. That's what maturity is- getting past your ego and attempting to look at things from another perspective. If you want people to think you're a responsible young adult, don't go round bragging about how responsible and adult you are.

Sorry if this goes off-topic, but all these kids constantly saying "Oh, I'm much smarter than my peers" just grinds my gears. The only person incapable of seeing how mature you really are or are not is you. You know why? Because you see things with a natural bias towards yourself. You don't know, you think you know. And believe me, there's a world of difference.
Actually by trying to say other people aren't mature, you try to say you are more mature than them. And assuring what mature people do or don't do it's also an attempt to be seen as a mature person.
It's very simple really, you talk down to people and try to outsmart them because somehow it's your idea of a mature person, and the only thing that it does is making people angry.
And I think it's really a shame.

Please someone lock this topic this is ridiculous.
The main topic isn't being discussed anymore.
 

Bulletinmybrain

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j-e-f-f-e-r-s post=9.68355.632547 said:
fluffylandmine post=9.68355.631504 said:
i'm an american and i was raised virtually the same way you were except i watched die hard, most movies with leslie neilson, JAWS, the good starwars, and mel brookes movies, and jurrasic park, all funny, but mature right? well i saw them at much younger ages than 10, and i am actually smarter and more sophisticated than my peers, and i have only exhibited a spark of insanity through out my life and that was just enough insanity to make me funnier and bit more interesting like a random thoughts that turn out to be funny, not like haha he's on fire don't help, just watch.sort of like my idea of the bacon flavored treat.
You claim to be smarter than your peers, yet you barely grasp how grammar or structure work. There's irony in them there hills...

what i must say is that my parents raised me right and knew i was slightly more mature, much like my older sister is. they knew when we were ready because they listened to us and not many parents do now and they seem to have the idea i must tell tell tell all there is instead of listening to or for issues.

what i'm trying to say is if the parents of the columbine shooters had listened to why they felt so frustaited to a point where death was on the menu.
Let me tell you something, sport. Mature people don't brag about mature they are. Immature people do. A truly mature person, rather than wasting precious conversation space saying "Oh, I'm mature, my parents trust me, blah blah", will actually contribute something that goes beyond ego massaging. That's what maturity is- getting past your ego and attempting to look at things from another perspective. If you want people to think you're a responsible young adult, don't go round bragging about how responsible and adult you are.

Sorry if this goes off-topic, but all these kids constantly saying "Oh, I'm much smarter than my peers" just grinds my gears. The only person incapable of seeing how mature you really are or are not is you. You know why? Because you see things with a natural bias towards yourself. You don't know, you think you know. And believe me, there's a world of difference.
Well so far he hasn't covered someone in toilet paper and then lighting said paper on fire thinking that just the paper would burn. So in the idiot land of america where a few gems out of thousands are good and a hundred or so are decent I think hes alright.
 

Saevus

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Ivoryagent post=9.68355.632621 said:
massuh post=9.68355.632610 said:
j-e-f-f-e-r-s post=9.68355.632547 said:
fluffylandmine post=9.68355.631504 said:
i'm an american and i was raised virtually the same way you were except i watched die hard, most movies with leslie neilson, JAWS, the good starwars, and mel brookes movies, and jurrasic park, all funny, but mature right? well i saw them at much younger ages than 10, and i am actually smarter and more sophisticated than my peers, and i have only exhibited a spark of insanity through out my life and that was just enough insanity to make me funnier and bit more interesting like a random thoughts that turn out to be funny, not like haha he's on fire don't help, just watch.sort of like my idea of the bacon flavored treat.
You claim to be smarter than your peers, yet you barely grasp how grammar or structure work. There's irony in them there hills...

what i must say is that my parents raised me right and knew i was slightly more mature, much like my older sister is. they knew when we were ready because they listened to us and not many parents do now and they seem to have the idea i must tell tell tell all there is instead of listening to or for issues.

what i'm trying to say is if the parents of the columbine shooters had listened to why they felt so frustaited to a point where death was on the menu.
Let me tell you something, sport. Mature people don't brag about mature they are. Immature people do. A truly mature person, rather than wasting precious conversation space saying "Oh, I'm mature, my parents trust me, blah blah", will actually contribute something that goes beyond ego massaging. That's what maturity is- getting past your ego and attempting to look at things from another perspective. If you want people to think you're a responsible young adult, don't go round bragging about how responsible and adult you are.

Sorry if this goes off-topic, but all these kids constantly saying "Oh, I'm much smarter than my peers" just grinds my gears. The only person incapable of seeing how mature you really are or are not is you. You know why? Because you see things with a natural bias towards yourself. You don't know, you think you know. And believe me, there's a world of difference.
Actually by trying to say other people aren't mature, you try to say you are more mature than them. And assuring what mature people do or don't do it's also an attempt to be seen as a mature person.
It's very simple really, you talk down to people and try to outsmart them because somehow it's your idea of a mature person, and the only thing that it does is making people angry.
And I think it's really a shame.
Aren't you doing the same thing?
My, this is becoming quite a vicious circle.
 

fluffylandmine

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j-e-f-f-e-r-s post=9.68355.632547 said:
fluffylandmine post=9.68355.631504 said:
i'm an american and i was raised virtually the same way you were except i watched die hard, most movies with leslie neilson, JAWS, the good starwars, and mel brookes movies, and jurrasic park, all funny, but mature right? well i saw them at much younger ages than 10, and i am actually smarter and more sophisticated than my peers, and i have only exhibited a spark of insanity through out my life and that was just enough insanity to make me funnier and bit more interesting like a random thoughts that turn out to be funny, not like haha he's on fire don't help, just watch.sort of like my idea of the bacon flavored treat.
You claim to be smarter than your peers, yet you barely grasp how grammar or structure work. There's irony in them there hills...

what i must say is that my parents raised me right and knew i was slightly more mature, much like my older sister is. they knew when we were ready because they listened to us and not many parents do now and they seem to have the idea i must tell tell tell all there is instead of listening to or for issues.

what i'm trying to say is if the parents of the columbine shooters had listened to why they felt so frustaited to a point where death was on the menu.
Let me tell you something, sport. Mature people don't brag about mature they are. Immature people do. A truly mature person, rather than wasting precious conversation space saying "Oh, I'm mature, my parents trust me, blah blah", will actually contribute something that goes beyond ego massaging. That's what maturity is- getting past your ego and attempting to look at things from another perspective. If you want people to think you're a responsible young adult, don't go round bragging about how responsible and adult you are.

Sorry if this goes off-topic, but all these kids constantly saying "Oh, I'm much smarter than my peers" just grinds my gears. The only person incapable of seeing how mature you really are or are not is you. You know why? Because you see things with a natural bias towards yourself. You don't know, you think you know. And believe me, there's a world of difference.
Some one has a god complex going on here, besides do you have to deal with backwoods hick-folk? most likley no. And i never said i was mature i said i was more mature than they are(not that hard).

Also really, this is the internet spelling errors are just getting nit picky, besides i don't re-read i just don't take that much time to give a flying sherbert flavored marshmallow.

I can't say your right because of the whole mightier than thou attitude. you are not saying your more mature but how you present yourself does.
 

Saevus

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fluffylandmine post=9.68355.633188 said:
I can't say your right because of the whole mightier than thou attitude. you are not saying your more mature but how you present yourself does.
fluffylandmine post=9.68355.633188 said:
besides do you have to deal with backwoods hick-folk? most likley no.
STOP MAKING PRESUMPTIONS! YOU DON'T KNOW HIM! YOU DON'T KNOW ME!

It's been said a few times in this thread, but honestly, one day you'll look back on this and either cringe or laugh.
 

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s0denone post=9.68355.631448 said:
So the real question is: Why is America so bloody fucked up?
Hahaha... that question could fill a forum all its own with answers. As it pertains to this subject specifically: the structure of the American family has largely dissolved. Parents do not care and children think they are God and Judge Dredd by age 12. We live in a morally destitute society where no body wants to take the fricken blame for their own problems, and even less people actually want to try and fix them. That about sums it up.
 

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j-e-f-f-e-r-s post=9.68355.632639 said:
massuh post=9.68355.632610 said:
j-e-f-f-e-r-s post=9.68355.632547 said:
Let me tell you something, sport. Mature people don't brag about mature they are. Immature people do. A truly mature person, rather than wasting precious conversation space saying "Oh, I'm mature, my parents trust me, blah blah", will actually contribute something that goes beyond ego massaging. That's what maturity is- getting past your ego and attempting to look at things from another perspective. If you want people to think you're a responsible young adult, don't go round bragging about how responsible and adult you are.

Sorry if this goes off-topic, but all these kids constantly saying "Oh, I'm much smarter than my peers" just grinds my gears. The only person incapable of seeing how mature you really are or are not is you. You know why? Because you see things with a natural bias towards yourself. You don't know, you think you know. And believe me, there's a world of difference.
Actually by trying to say other people aren't mature, you try to say you are more mature than them. And assuring what mature people do or don't do it's also an attempt to be seen as a mature person.
Is that sophistry I see here? Genuine sophistry? heck, if we keep this up, we may get a proper Chewbacca defence going.

It's very simple really, you talk down to people and try to outsmart them because somehow it's your idea of a mature person, and the only thing that it does is making people angry.
And I think it's really a shame.
Hey, I'm just offering my take on things. If you don't like it, I'm not forcing you to agree with me. I'm not trying to talk down to people and make them feel small. I'm taking part in a debate. That's what this thread is for. Debating. The above S0denone made remarks that I felt should be commented on. Others have expressed that they share my sentiments. This is how discussion works. If anyone's getting angry at my really rather tame comments, then that's their problem. I haven't said anything out of line (as far as I can tell).

Please someone lock this topic this is ridiculous.
The main topic isn't being discussed anymore.
Y'know, we are allowed a little freedom for tangents in discussion. And discussion on maturity and responsibility ties directly with the post the OP originally made anyway. You see?
I can agree with you from a technical standpoint, but not much you do act pretentious and debate and discussion are different and I would expect more from you to know that.

Debate is a sophisticated way of saying 'fight'. A discussion allows middle ground and individuality other than pro vs. con, black vs. white. Also the dicussions on the Escapist are ment to be reasonable and respectable. You are not, you don't allow anything else in do to arrogance and general bull-headedness. You talk down to others so that it's bringing on hostility(and you do a good job to boot).

EDIT: why is it that the more i try to defend my self the more attacks I get? Also, yes I get it Saevus i don't know you or jeffers (and i wouldn't want to) but i just said he most likely doesn't and i don't get how i'll laugh at pointing out that he has a negative attitude.
 

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I agree with removing the age limit on games, they don't make sense anyway. There are probably no adults with a crazed desire to blow people up since that's us kiddies thigns :)
I have no idea why sex is considered worse than violence though :S
 

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fluffylandmine post=9.68355.633233 said:
j-e-f-f-e-r-s post=9.68355.632639 said:
massuh post=9.68355.632610 said:
j-e-f-f-e-r-s post=9.68355.632547 said:
Let me tell you something, sport. Mature people don't brag about mature they are. Immature people do. A truly mature person, rather than wasting precious conversation space saying "Oh, I'm mature, my parents trust me, blah blah", will actually contribute something that goes beyond ego massaging. That's what maturity is- getting past your ego and attempting to look at things from another perspective. If you want people to think you're a responsible young adult, don't go round bragging about how responsible and adult you are.

Sorry if this goes off-topic, but all these kids constantly saying "Oh, I'm much smarter than my peers" just grinds my gears. The only person incapable of seeing how mature you really are or are not is you. You know why? Because you see things with a natural bias towards yourself. You don't know, you think you know. And believe me, there's a world of difference.
Actually by trying to say other people aren't mature, you try to say you are more mature than them. And assuring what mature people do or don't do it's also an attempt to be seen as a mature person.
Is that sophistry I see here? Genuine sophistry? heck, if we keep this up, we may get a proper Chewbacca defence going.

It's very simple really, you talk down to people and try to outsmart them because somehow it's your idea of a mature person, and the only thing that it does is making people angry.
And I think it's really a shame.
Hey, I'm just offering my take on things. If you don't like it, I'm not forcing you to agree with me. I'm not trying to talk down to people and make them feel small. I'm taking part in a debate. That's what this thread is for. Debating. The above S0denone made remarks that I felt should be commented on. Others have expressed that they share my sentiments. This is how discussion works. If anyone's getting angry at my really rather tame comments, then that's their problem. I haven't said anything out of line (as far as I can tell).

Please someone lock this topic this is ridiculous.
The main topic isn't being discussed anymore.
Y'know, we are allowed a little freedom for tangents in discussion. And discussion on maturity and responsibility ties directly with the post the OP originally made anyway. You see?
I can agree with you from a technical standpoint, but not much you do act pretentious and debate and discussion are different and I would expect more from you to know that.

Debate is a sophisticated way of saying 'fight'. A discussion allows middle ground and individuality other than pro vs. con, black vs. white. Also the dicussions on the Escapist are ment to be reasonable and respectable. You are not, you don't allow anything else in do to arrogance and general bull-headedness. You talk down to others so that it's bringing on hostility(and you do a good job to boot).

EDIT: why is it that the more i try to defend my self the more attacks I get? Also, yes I get it Saevus i don't know you or jeffers (and i wouldn't want to) but i just said he most likely doesn't and i don't get how i'll laugh at pointing out that he has a negative attitude.
That's the point. Give it time. Preferably, two to five years' time.
 

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DeadlyFred post=9.68355.633214 said:
s0denone post=9.68355.631448 said:
So the real question is: Why is America so bloody fucked up?
Hahaha... that question could fill a forum all its own with answers. As it pertains to this subject specifically: the structure of the American family has largely dissolved. Parents do not care and children think they are God and Judge Dredd by age 12. We live in a morally destitute society where no body wants to take the fricken blame for their own problems, and even less people actually want to try and fix them. That about sums it up.
My thoughts exactly.

Sadly, though, my point will most likely just crumble to dust with time, since this thread is a ticking I-want-to-be-locked-bomb; Everyone is off-topic, debating each others maturity.

The irony.
 

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DeadlyFred post=9.68355.633214 said:
s0denone post=9.68355.631448 said:
So the real question is: Why is America so bloody fucked up?
Hahaha... that question could fill a forum all its own with answers. As it pertains to this subject specifically: the structure of the American family has largely dissolved. Parents do not care and children think they are God and Judge Dredd by age 12. We live in a morally destitute society where no body wants to take the fricken blame for their own problems, and even less people actually want to try and fix them. That about sums it up.
Same over here in Brit-land I'm afraid. Worse, maybe, if the UN is to be believed:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2007/feb/14/childrensservices.politics
 

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s0denone post=9.68355.633967 said:
DeadlyFred post=9.68355.633214 said:
s0denone post=9.68355.631448 said:
So the real question is: Why is America so bloody fucked up?
Hahaha... that question could fill a forum all its own with answers. As it pertains to this subject specifically: the structure of the American family has largely dissolved. Parents do not care and children think they are God and Judge Dredd by age 12. We live in a morally destitute society where no body wants to take the fricken blame for their own problems, and even less people actually want to try and fix them. That about sums it up.
My thoughts exactly.

Sadly, though, my point will most likely just crumble to dust with time, since this thread is a ticking I-want-to-be-locked-bomb; Everyone is off-topic, debating each others maturity.

The irony.
Come to think of it, yes your right. I don't get how immature we can be debating our maturity. Strange but just enough irony to sit back and say 'whoa!'.
 

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Xiado post=9.68355.634337 said:
Colton Caramihalis post=9.68355.625808 said:
Suing is a epidemic in this country. Judges need to grow some balls and start telling stupid that if they spill coffee it is there own fault.
It all has to do with the sh**ty media blowing everything out of proportion and making a big effing mess, and this causes sensationalism, which makes everyone scared and ready to blame. It is one the worst problems for society.
Holy crap, that's pretty much exactly my thought process whenever I ponder why society is so fucked.

It really is all the media's fault. Really. Almost every problem (socially) is.