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Birdehh

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Nazulu said:
Birdehh said:
Many people i know from a few years back did it because they thought it was 'cool'..
Some of them were even forced into it through peer pressure, especially the girls.
Thats very common as well but thats more because of stupidity and weakness than something desperate.
True, but couldn't giving into depression also be counted as weakness? Obviously not on the same scale as what i mentioned, but there are other ways to beat depression than pumping drugs around your system.
 

MisterAnarchist

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I've done most of the harder drugs and I don't suggest any of them. If you truly want to do it, I say go for it. If you don't want to, don't.

Which should be legal and why?
-All of them, people are smart enough to make decisions on their own
Why do you choose to use or not use them?
-I choose to use them because I enjoy the effects, why would I stop myself from enjoying something?
Does your opinion of a person change if you find out they use drugs?
-No, not really. It does make it a little easier to talk to people if I find out they do but that's probably because of common ground.
 
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I think most drugs are best avoided, but there's a strong case to be made that it's better for society to legalise and regulate them than ban them and drive them onto the black market, where they generate massive profits for criminal organisations and can be spiked with all kinds of shit.
 

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MisterAnarchist said:
I've done most of the harder drugs and I don't suggest any of them. If you truly want to do it, I say go for it. If you don't want to, don't.

Which should be legal and why?
-All of them, people are smart enough to make decisions on their own
Why do you choose to use or not use them?
-I choose to use them because I enjoy the effects, why would I stop myself from enjoying something?
Does your opinion of a person change if you find out they use drugs?
-No, not really. It does make it a little easier to talk to people if I find out they do but that's probably because of common ground.
Would your opinion of drugs change if you were to lose someone close to you as a result of them?
 

MisterAnarchist

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Nazulu said:
So far from what I hear it's because people get nervous and depressed but I would like to hear these many reasons please.
That actually couldn't be farther from the truth for me. I never do drugs while in a bad state of mind because that only perpetuates it further. If you're doing it because someone else tells you you'll be cool, or to get away from the problems of life then you're doing it for all the wrong reasons.
 

bue519

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Birdehh said:
This was inspired by a chat with my parents this morning, believe it or not. We had a discussion about drugs and reasons for and against them, personally i'm not a drugs person, I find that I do too much sports to allow it into my system. I hear a lot about 'weed' being completely safe, which is a reason why it is so common, but I was thinking more along the lines of the stronger drugs. Since it's not one of my strong points I was wondering if our lovely escapists had some info and opinions, maybe some firsthand experience?

Which should be legal and why?
Why do you choose to use or not use them?
Does your opinion of a person change if you find out they use drugs?
Well, you cant really just say drugs, You should be more specific.
Like natural ones Ex: Weed, Mushshrooms
Or manmade ones Ex: Perscriptions and LSD.
 

cathou

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I've took too much drugs in my life in my opinion, and now that i'm out of this, i'm not in favors of legalizing it, especially the hard ones. I choose to use them because back in that time i wanted to forget who i was and what i was living. it took two years out of my life.
 

MisterAnarchist

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Birdehh said:
Would your opinion of drugs change if you were to lose someone close to you as a result of them?
Last month I had a friend OD on heroin, he knew what he was doing it was more of a suicide.
 

Birdehh

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Fraser.J.A said:
I think most drugs are best avoided, but there's a strong case to be made that it's better for society to legalise and regulate them than ban them and drive them onto the black market, where they generate massive profits for criminal organisations and can be spiked with all kinds of shit.
I have to strongly agree here, it would be much better for everyone if they were to legalise them, atleast they would gain control over them instead of everything going through dealers. It would also make purchasing them a lot safer for the consumer, as they can just go to a shop, like with cigarettes, instead of the shady dealers.
 

Birdehh

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bue519 said:
Birdehh said:
This was inspired by a chat with my parents this morning, believe it or not. We had a discussion about drugs and reasons for and against them, personally i'm not a drugs person, I find that I do too much sports to allow it into my system. I hear a lot about 'weed' being completely safe, which is a reason why it is so common, but I was thinking more along the lines of the stronger drugs. Since it's not one of my strong points I was wondering if our lovely escapists had some info and opinions, maybe some firsthand experience?

Which should be legal and why?
Why do you choose to use or not use them?
Does your opinion of a person change if you find out they use drugs?
Well, you cant really just say drugs, You should be more specific.
Like natural ones Ex: Weed, Mushshrooms
Or manmade ones Ex: Perscriptions and LSD.
Ok then, lets say all drugs that are used for their un-intended purpose, instead of the medical approach they're in turn used for getting kicks out of.
 

cathou

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MisterAnarchist said:
Birdehh said:
Would your opinion of drugs change if you were to lose someone close to you as a result of them?
Last month I had a friend OD on heroin, he knew what he was doing it was more of a suicide.
are you sure he wanted to suicide ? you know that OD with heroin is very easy, even if you know what you're doing...
 

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Nazulu said:
Ionami said:
Nazulu said:
Which should be legal and why?

None should be legal! Everyone is weak and will get addicted, then will start to rely on it and then maybe regret it later.
Not true. Not everyone would get addicted. Only those who actually have the active addiction gene.
Oh sure, lets take chances. lol

Ionami said:
Nazulu said:
Why do you choose to use or not use them?

I don't use them and have never taken drugs before. I'm not even sure why people do it but if it's because they feel down then drugs is a bad solution.
There's many reasons why someone may do drugs, you'll never be able to single out ONE particular reason why it happens. It's different for each individual.
So far from what I hear it's because people get nervous and depressed but I would like to hear these many reasons please.
It's not "taking chances". If a person is not genetically pre-disposed to be an addict, they WILL NOT become an addict. That's it.

People don't JUST take drugs because they're nervous or depressed. There are many reasons, and as I said before, they're different for each individual.

As for myself? I started doing drugs when I was 15 because I made friends with the wrong group of people. I wasn't depressed, or nervous, I simply hung out with the wrong kids.

I don't do drugs anymore, because they caused no end of problems for myself and my family. And that's enough to keep me from going back to them.

Don't assume that people do drugs because of depression. Not true. Ultimately people start doing drugs for MANY different reasons, but the ones who continue to do them in spite of negative consequences are doing it because of addiction. And those people HAVE to be genetically pre-disposed to addiction, by having the addiction gene.
 

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My view on drugs is that marijuana at least should be legalized everywhere, and other drugs (Salvia, Cocaine, Heroin) should be judged on a case-by-case basis. Heroin should be stamped out completely because it fucks people up so bad. Same with crack cocaine and, to a certain extent, powder cocaine as well. LSD Acid causes horrible hallucinations and should be rigidly controlled, if not banned.

--Which should be legal and why?

Pot should definitely be legal, at least for those of majority age. My thought is that, since so many people use marijuana (many more than smoke tobacco), if the government legalizes it and then sells it through state stores (like they do with alchohol), then they a)can tax the shit out of it and get us out of this depression/recession within six months and b) control what is in the cannabis, make sure it's nothing but weed. The current ad campaign was started because some kids got ahold of some bad weed and died of it; the five-oh believe it was laced with morphine or some other, harder substance in an attempt to get the kids hooked and coming back for more. Or at least, that's the reason for the crackdown in my area.

--Why do you choose to use or not use them?

I have, on occasion, had a joint. I do so with my friends or, if I'm having a really bad day, I'll light up on my roof occasionally. I don't see anything wrong with doing so or with aomeone my age doing so. I understand that there are irresponsible members of my age group who use every drug known to man, and this is why there should be government control: you take a test to see if you are semi-responsible and then you get a card or something that says " has passed the ARDUE (Approved Recreational Drug Use Exam) and is allowed to carry: x grams of marijuana, y grams of nicotene, z grams of blah, blah, blah." Then, if the blue searches you, you show them this card and they are not allowed to prosecute unless you have more than the amount shown on the card. Simple and effective.

--Does your opinion of a person change if you find out they use drugs?

As several people have already stated, that depends on the drug. If someone is a hard crack cocaine user and is stoned out of their mind on a daily basis, then they are contributing less than nothing to society. If someone is smoking a bit of weed on a weekly basis and might be stoned one out of every ten times you go over to their house, that's not a problem. They're still accomplishing things when they aren't stoned. A crack addict's time between doses is entirely taken up with finding the next dose. Yet another reason for drug control.

There's also this picture I found:
Ok, I can't find it right now because I can't access Facebook from school, but I'll edit this post with it later. It's really frickin' funny.
 

bue519

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Birdehh said:
bue519 said:
Birdehh said:
This was inspired by a chat with my parents this morning, believe it or not. We had a discussion about drugs and reasons for and against them, personally i'm not a drugs person, I find that I do too much sports to allow it into my system. I hear a lot about 'weed' being completely safe, which is a reason why it is so common, but I was thinking more along the lines of the stronger drugs. Since it's not one of my strong points I was wondering if our lovely escapists had some info and opinions, maybe some firsthand experience?

Which should be legal and why?
Why do you choose to use or not use them?
Does your opinion of a person change if you find out they use drugs?
Well, you cant really just say drugs, You should be more specific.
Like natural ones Ex: Weed, Mushshrooms
Or manmade ones Ex: Perscriptions and LSD.
Ok then, lets say all drugs that are used for their un-intended purpose, instead of the medical approach they're in turn used for getting kicks out of.
Well, then scripts are the real killers here and are the truly addictive ones. I've heard people even going so far to say that scripts are worse than H (herion) and coke. Which to some extent I can agree with.
 

MisterAnarchist

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cathou said:
MisterAnarchist said:
Birdehh said:
Would your opinion of drugs change if you were to lose someone close to you as a result of them?
Last month I had a friend OD on heroin, he knew what he was doing it was more of a suicide.
are you sure he wanted to suicide ? you know that OD with heroin is very easy, even if you know what you're doing...
Yea I'm pretty positive it was suicide, bunch of shit happened to him(rather not say) he disappeared and found him a week later in NYC dead in a crack house.

I said it once in this thread I'll say it again: DRUGS ARE NOT THE SOLUTION TO YOUR PROBLEMS
 

Birdehh

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RagnorakTres said:
My view on drugs is that marijuana at least should be legalized everywhere, and other drugs (Salvia, Cocaine, Heroin) should be judged on a case-by-case basis. Heroin should be stamped out completely because it fucks people up so bad. Same with crack cocaine and, to a certain extent, powder cocaine as well. LSD Acid causes horrible hallucinations and should be rigidly controlled, if not banned.

--Which should be legal and why?

Pot should definitely be legal, at least for those of majority age. My thought is that, since so many people use marijuana (many more than smoke tobacco), if the government legalizes it and then sells it through state stores (like they do with alchohol), then they a)can tax the shit out of it and get us out of this depression/recession within six months and b) control what is in the cannabis, make sure it's nothing but weed. The current ad campaign was started because some kids got ahold of some bad weed and died of it; the five-oh believe it was laced with morphine or some other, harder substance in an attempt to get the kids hooked and coming back for more. Or at least, that's the reason for the crackdown in my area.

--Why do you choose to use or not use them?

I have, on occasion, had a joint. I do so with my friends or, if I'm having a really bad day, I'll light up on my roof occasionally. I don't see anything wrong with doing so or with aomeone my age doing so. I understand that there are irresponsible members of my age group who use every drug known to man, and this is why there should be government control: you take a test to see if you are semi-responsible and then you get a card or something that says " has passed the ARDUE (Approved Recreational Drug Use Exam) and is allowed to carry: x grams of marijuana, y grams of nicotene, z grams of blah, blah, blah." Then, if the blue searches you, you show them this card and they are not allowed to prosecute unless you have more than the amount shown on the card. Simple and effective.

--Does your opinion of a person change if you find out they use drugs?

As several people have already stated, that depends on the drug. If someone is a hard crack cocaine user and is stoned out of their mind on a daily basis, then they are contributing less than nothing to society. If someone is smoking a bit of weed on a weekly basis and might be stoned one out of every ten times you go over to their house, that's not a problem. They're still accomplishing things when they aren't stoned. A crack addict's time between doses is entirely taken up with finding the next dose. Yet another reason for drug control.

There's also this picture I found:
Ok, I can't find it right now because I can't access Facebook from school, but I'll edit this post with it later. It's really frickin' funny.
Well constructed post, but on the bit in bold, it would become quite a big hastle for the government to create and issue serparate cards for everyone, not to mention they would have to be renewed every few months to check that people aren't going over the limit and being irresponsible after getting a card.
 

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MisterAnarchist said:
cathou said:
MisterAnarchist said:
Birdehh said:
Would your opinion of drugs change if you were to lose someone close to you as a result of them?
Last month I had a friend OD on heroin, he knew what he was doing it was more of a suicide.
are you sure he wanted to suicide ? you know that OD with heroin is very easy, even if you know what you're doing...
Yea I'm pretty positive it was suicide, bunch of shit happened to him(rather not say) he disappeared and found him a week later in NYC dead in a crack house.

I said it once in this thread I'll say it again: DRUGS ARE NOT THE SOLUTION TO YOUR PROBLEMS
Heroin in a crack house? I smell a mystery.
 

Nazulu

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Ionami said:
It's not "taking chances". If a person is not genetically pre-disposed to be an addict, they WILL NOT become an addict. That's it.
Lets get one thing straight, you replied to my answer to a question so if you want to legalize drugs because not everyone becomes addicted that easy then you are definitely taking chances and a stupid one at that!

Also there are not many reasons why people start taking drugs, it is usually cause of stupidity or weakness and if you do it to often you will become addicted and it can ruin your life.

Birdehh said:
True, but couldn't giving into depression also be counted as weakness? Obviously not on the same scale as what i mentioned, but there are other ways to beat depression than pumping drugs around your system.
Of course but alot of people get convinced it's easier or actually become that desperate.
 

Birdehh

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Would be great to get some more info from people with experience of hard drugs, although i should probably just let this die now ;)
 

cathou

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Birdehh said:
Would be great to get some more info from people with experience of hard drugs, although i should probably just let this die now ;)
what kind of information you are looking for ? i'm not giving advice on how to use it that's for sure :p