Poll: Drugs and You.

[Nazulu]

Which should be legal and why?
- None should be legal! Everyone is weak and will get addicted, then will start to rely on it and then maybe regret it later.

Why do you choose to use or not use them?
- I don't use them and have never taken drugs before. I'm not even sure why people do it but if it's because they feel down then drugs is a bad solution.

Does your opinion of a person change if you find out they use drugs?
- A little, not much really.

You didn't even need to tell us you've never done drugs, as it was pretty obvious reading that first sentence. First of all, no, not everyone is as weak as you, and second, many illegal drugs do not even have addictive agents in them and can only be psychologically addictive in the same ways almost anything else can, including video games. Even very intense highs and trips are addiction free. I smoke pot on a pretty regular basis and haven't had the extra cash to do it this week, so I've been going without it. I have no withdrawal symptoms, I am not fixing to rob anybody to pay for my "habit" as someone like you would put it, and in general I am only proving to myself that I am not a weakling and that I can do without a recreational activity that I greatly enjoy.

By the same token, legal drugs such as caffeine and nicotene are both as chemically addictive as heroin is. They do not have the same debilitating effects on the body as heroin does, but they'll hook you just as quick. Why do you think they're in so many products that so many people use every day? Coca-Cola had cocaine in it before cocaine became illegal in so many countries.

Smoke some pot, kid. You'll understand this issue a little better.

Lets get one thing straight, you replied to my answer to a question so if you want to legalize drugs because not everyone becomes addicted that easy then you are definitely taking chances and a stupid one at that!

Also there are not many reasons why people start taking drugs, it is usually cause of stupidity or weakness and if you do it to often you will become addicted and it can ruin your life.

Ignorant. You are not seeing the big picture. I just posted an argument that smashed people like you in a different thread. Let me go find it.

Oh thats clever, call me weak when I haven't done any and then compare everyone to yourself. Well you obviously take this topic personally but it's time to pull the stick out of your ass and time to learn that people can get easily hooked on the instant gratification.

I'm gonna do some more research on pot instead of hearing the same bickering from the know it alls.

 

[Ionami]

My god, what an ignorant and sheltered life you must live. You're talking to an addict about something you've never experienced, as if you know better. I just told you my reason for doing drugs, which had nothing to do with depression or nervousness.

I also never said I wanted to legalize drugs. Not once did I say anything even close to that.

I simply corrected your statement about how everyone would get addicted. You talk as if it's impossible for people to get drugs as it is right now, with them being illegal. That's obviously ridiculous, since there are drugs EVERYWHERE.

OMFG! You started out by saying "not everyone would not get addicted" when I said it is too dangerous because most likely they will however they start is irrelevant to a question should it be legalized? Then you pulled this other crap out of nowhere that had nothing to do with what I was talking about.

I didn't even ask you how you started or how people could obtain it and you start talking about this gene that I have never heard of with no proof saying some people just can't get addicted. Get a fucking clue!

So just because you know nothing about drugs, or addiction or the addiction gene, I MUST be wrong? I think YOU are the one in need of a clue, my friend.

http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/addiction/genetics/

http://www.sciencentral.com/articles/view.php3?type=article&article_id=218392744

Do a little research.

You are clearly very confused on what has transpired over these past few posts, and you seem to have forgotten what you said originally.

I wasn't trying to answer the question of "Should it be legalized?", I was correcting your statement.

Which should be legal and why?

None should be legal! Everyone is weak and will get addicted, then will start to rely on it and then maybe regret it later.

Not true. Not everyone would get addicted. Only those who actually have the active addiction gene.

Why do you choose to use or not use them?

I don't use them and have never taken drugs before. I'm not even sure why people do it but if it's because they feel down then drugs is a bad solution.

There's many reasons why someone may do drugs, you'll never be able to single out ONE particular reason why it happens. It's different for each individual.

CLEARLY I'm simply responding to your incorrect, uninformed and ignorant posts! I AM NOT trying to answer the OP's questions.

Oh, and here:

So far from what I hear it's because people get nervous and depressed but I would like to hear these many reasons please.

That's YOU asking for people to give you their reasons for starting drugs.

 

[Zykon TheLich]

Just the effects that the harder drugs have on people, such as senses and perception of things, obviously it's different from person to person, so a few peoples input would be fantastic.

...this is where things get dicey...I am reluctant to post much on this as I am too lazy to recount things properly. You can look up this stuff on wikipedia, it's pretty accurate in a dry sort of way.

Personally:
Coke: was awesome, now boring
Crack: was awesome, now boring
Heroin: everything you ever loved and hated in a convenient brown powdery package. The only one I still do, but I am an idiot.

I am pretty bad at open questions...living life with your brain on the snow channel tends to dull your mind.

 

[whitelabel2k]

Which should be legal and why?
- None should be legal! Everyone is weak and will get addicted, then will start to rely on it and then maybe regret it later.

Why do you choose to use or not use them?
- I don't use them and have never taken drugs before. I'm not even sure why people do it but if it's because they feel down then drugs is a bad solution.

Does your opinion of a person change if you find out they use drugs?
- A little, not much really.

You didn't even need to tell us you've never done drugs, as it was pretty obvious reading that first sentence. First of all, no, not everyone is as weak as you, and second, many illegal drugs do not even have addictive agents in them and can only be psychologically addictive in the same ways almost anything else can, including video games. Even very intense highs and trips are addiction free. I smoke pot on a pretty regular basis and haven't had the extra cash to do it this week, so I've been going without it. I have no withdrawal symptoms, I am not fixing to rob anybody to pay for my "habit" as someone like you would put it, and in general I am only proving to myself that I am not a weakling and that I can do without a recreational activity that I greatly enjoy.

By the same token, legal drugs such as caffeine and nicotene are both as chemically addictive as heroin is. They do not have the same debilitating effects on the body as heroin does, but they'll hook you just as quick. Why do you think they're in so many products that so many people use every day? Coca-Cola had cocaine in it before cocaine became illegal in so many countries.

Smoke some pot, kid. You'll understand this issue a little better.

Lets get one thing straight, you replied to my answer to a question so if you want to legalize drugs because not everyone becomes addicted that easy then you are definitely taking chances and a stupid one at that!

Also there are not many reasons why people start taking drugs, it is usually cause of stupidity or weakness and if you do it to often you will become addicted and it can ruin your life.

Ignorant. You are not seeing the big picture. I just posted an argument that smashed people like you in a different thread. Let me go find it.

Oh thats clever, call me weak when I haven't done any and then compare everyone to yourself. Well you obviously take this topic personally but it's time to pull the stick out of your ass and time to learn that people can get easily hooked on the instant gratification.

I'm gonna do some more research on pot instead of hearing the same bickering from the know it alls.

Good, go find some empirical evidence to disprove yourself.

Also, you called everyone who DOES do drugs weak.

Again, are you HIGH MAN?

 

[FrostyV3]

The occasional bit of weed (in my mind) is OK.
Anything else, I stay well clear of; that's the stuff that screws up your life.

Not to say that weed is 100% safe and not addictive, but it's safer than other drugs.
Also, if you do weed, don't let it become a gateway drug to lead onto heavier shit.

So my views in a nutshell: Stay clear of drugs, kids. If you REALLY want to experiment, the smallest bit of weed, and only occasionally. If you lead onto other shit, I'll deliver a swift headbutt to your nose for being a degenerate.
~Frosty.

 

[Baneat]

Cool to see such an even spread of opinion. "Drugs" is WAY too vague a term. Heroin, cocaine and meth should remain illegal, because these do a lot of harm to the body. MDMA wouldn't be so bad if the government regulated them, the problem with MDMA is that the manufacturer can put nasty stuff in the pills. Also, magic mushrooms are only dangerous because you can take the wrong type. Regulation solves that. Cannabis should outright be completely legal, much more so than alcohol and tobacco, it's mother nature's gift to the world (safe, amazingly useful hemp in industry, etc etc). Many drugs are only dangerous because there is no quality control on the supply. Legalisation and regulation solves this. And, no. Your opinion of someone should not change your opinion of them.

 

[BubbleGumSnareDrum]

Oh thats clever, call me weak when I haven't done any and then compare everyone to yourself. Well you obviously take this topic personally but it's time to pull the stick out of your ass and time to learn that people can get easily hooked on the instant gratification.

I'm gonna do some more research on pot instead of hearing the same bickering from the know it alls.

I do take this topic personally because you haven't a clue what you're talking about and you very clearly admitted that before you even said anything else. You are weak because you are obviously going on falsified information that you heard from sources with motives beyond simply educating you. You are too weak to learn things for yourself by doing or at least by reading of your own free will. Why else would you be taking so much offense to statements from people who have experience with things that you have no experience of your own for?

[link]http://www.erowid.org[/link]

You want to learn about drugs, use that website. You obviously haven't learned anything from any accurate sources or anyone in this thread.

 

[Ionami]

Oh thats clever, call me weak when I haven't done any and then compare everyone to yourself. Well you obviously take this topic personally but it's time to pull the stick out of your ass and time to learn that people can get easily hooked on the instant gratification.

I'm gonna do some more research on pot instead of hearing the same bickering from the know it alls.

The instant gratification is part of addiction, though! This is what you're not understanding! That's how addiction works. The substance of choice, when used, sets off the reward centers in the brain, causing a euphoric reaction, or "instant gratification".

You will not get the "instant gratification" if you do not inherently possess the proper biological makeup!

This goes for any substance, it doesn't have to be drugs necessarily, that's why groups like "Sex Addicts Anonymous" exist, and other support groups. Because addiction is not so much about the drugs, but about the behavior! You can technically be addicted to anything.

The definition of addiction:

"Addiction is the inability to stop or cease the use of a substance or action, in spite of increasingly negative consequences."

 

[fenrizz]

As i've gathered from a few replys here Heroin is probably the worst of all the drugs, if anyone has some info on hallucagenics(sp?) like mushrooms and i believe LSD? It would be great.

Tried mushrooms once, mexican ones i think. Was good fun to be honest, made me laugh for 4hours straight.
God bless Amsterdam!

 

[Lord George]

Weed and LSD are good and fine, if your opposed to them you might as well be opposed to Alcohol and junk food because I'm pretty sure they've killed a hell of a lot more people then either weed or LSD ever did. I've never had any bad experiences with either and neither have any of my friends, it should definitely be legalised as I can see no negatives towards it.

 

[BubbleGumSnareDrum]

Oh thats clever, call me weak when I haven't done any and then compare everyone to yourself. Well you obviously take this topic personally but it's time to pull the stick out of your ass and time to learn that people can get easily hooked on the instant gratification.

I'm gonna do some more research on pot instead of hearing the same bickering from the know it alls.

The instant gratification is part of addiction, though! This is what you're not understanding! That's how addiction works. The substance of choice, when used, sets off the reward centers in the brain, causing a euphoric reaction, or "instant gratification".

You will not get the "instant gratification" if you do not inherently possess the proper biological makeup!

This goes for any substance, it doesn't have to be drugs necessarily, that's why groups like "Sex Addicts Anonymous" exist, and other support groups. Because addiction is not so much about the drugs, but about the behavior! You can technically be addicted to anything.

The definition of addiction:

"Addiction is the inability to stop or cease the use of a substance or action, in spite of increasingly negative consequences."

Exactly. This is how people can be addicted to video games when all they're doing is pressing buttons and watching the corresponding actions on a screen. When you play video games, pleasure-inducing chemicals are released in the brain and if someone is pre-disposed to addiction they can very easily get addicted to something like a video game or sex in the same way anyone can get addicted to a chemical substance.

Addiction is not as simple as putting something "bad" in your body and being taken over by it. Like everything else that happens in our brains, it is more psychological than it is physical.

 

[Ionami]

Oh thats clever, call me weak when I haven't done any and then compare everyone to yourself. Well you obviously take this topic personally but it's time to pull the stick out of your ass and time to learn that people can get easily hooked on the instant gratification.

I'm gonna do some more research on pot instead of hearing the same bickering from the know it alls.

The instant gratification is part of addiction, though! This is what you're not understanding! That's how addiction works. The substance of choice, when used, sets off the reward centers in the brain, causing a euphoric reaction, or "instant gratification".

You will not get the "instant gratification" if you do not inherently possess the proper biological makeup!

This goes for any substance, it doesn't have to be drugs necessarily, that's why groups like "Sex Addicts Anonymous" exist, and other support groups. Because addiction is not so much about the drugs, but about the behavior! You can technically be addicted to anything.

The definition of addiction:

"Addiction is the inability to stop or cease the use of a substance or action, in spite of increasingly negative consequences."

Exactly. This is how people can be addicted to video games when all they're doing is pressing buttons and watching the corresponding actions on a screen. When you play video games, pleasure-inducing chemicals are released in the brain and if someone is pre-disposed to addiction they can very easily get addicted to something like a video game or sex in the same way anyone can get addicted to a chemical substance.

Addiction is not as simple as putting something "bad" in your body and being taken over by it. Like everything else that happens in our brains, it is more psychological than it is physical.

So glad to know there are other informed and sane folks out there.

 

[Johannes XVII]

The stats show that marijuana should be legalised. It's half way legalised in the Netherlands and our usage is about the same as in other european countries, except maybe for the fact that more people have tried it and some are a bit more hardcore. Marijuana was legalised as to regulate the trade and keep it seperated from the hard drugs, and because they saw the hippies that were smoking it were just chillin'. As for addictiveness, there is no fysical addiction and the mental addiction is way worse with alcohol and chocolate.. (addict ) and it remains your own choice. It's true that it makes you a bit slower and screws with the development of the younger brains (17 year olds and younger) but then again you don't go drunk to work either. Alcohol will destroy so much more in a life time than cannabis ever could, legalisation would be as just as ending apartheid was

 

[Birdehh]

The poll looks to have split the pack straight down the middle really, a slight difference shows a dislike infront, but it's definatly a subject with a lot of opinion.. Still looking for anyones experiences with something not yes discussed, mushrooms or LSD for example, quite keen to hear the effects on those

 

[Nazulu]

So just because you know nothing about drugs, or addiction or the addiction gene, I MUST be wrong? I think YOU are the one in need of a clue, my friend.

http://learn.genetics.utah.edu/content/addiction/genetics/

http://www.sciencentral.com/articles/view.php3?type=article&article_id=218392744

Do a little research.

You are clearly very confused on what has transpired over these past few posts, and you seem to have forgotten what you said originally.

I wasn't trying to answer the question of "Should it be legalized?", I was correcting your statement.

Fine but it can still be dangerous plus I am mainly talking about harder drugs, and still alot of people can still get addicted. We both weren't clear!

Good, go find some empirical evidence to disprove yourself.

Also, you called everyone who DOES do drugs weak.

Again, are you HIGH MAN?

Then you must have this addiction gene crap otherwise you would be fucked and I just found a shit load of websites showing how people can get treatment when they show all signs of addiction to pot. Disproved you *****!

I wasn't even talking about pot to begin with but whatever, I learned something new.

 

[Birdehh]

Which should be legal and why?
Why do you choose to use or not use them?
Does your opinion of a person change if you find out they use drugs?

1. I should prepare to be flamed: I feel that all drugs should be legal, simply because I don't believe the government has the right to tell me what I can and cannot do with my own body. I believe that drugs can be safely used in small doses with self-control. Now I'm probably going to get screams of 'but Wouldukindly! If all drugs are legal, then more junkies dying for a fix will attack or rob people!' Being part of the Canadian drug culture, I've seen and talked to dozens of drug users who have used all kinds of substances. Guess what? For the most part, they're all completely normal, functioning people because they know their limits. I've seen very few addicts, and even then, those people are addicts usually due to some kind of emotional problem. Frankly, the one time you shouldn't do drugs is during an emotional period. You can do drugs in a mature and safe environment if you know what you're doing. It's all about responsibility, folks. You should know the factors and risks before you try anything.

I await being yelled at for my silly belief in personal freedoms

2. I chose to use them simply because, well, they're fun. Drugs can be a very enjoyable experience. As I said above, the drug culture is excellent as well, you can meet a lot of interesting people.

3. 'Dude, you do drugs? Let's go get bakkkkkkkkked.' I'm kidding. My opinion of the person doesn't change, as I'd be a horrible hypocrite.

As i've said to a few that answered my questions before, would your outlook on drugs change if a loved one was involved with them and they passed away as a result?

 

[soulasylum85]

Which should be legal and why?

weed should definately be legal there is no negative side effects besides lazyness and hunger. not to mention how much safer it would be if the government regulated it as well as how much money the country could make from the sale of pot. any other drug i dont feel as though i should form an opinion of because i have only ever done weed.

Why do you choose to use or not use them?

i choose to occasionally use weed because its fun. it feels good and makes everything more interesting and there is no reason not to smoke weed other than it being illegal. as for other drugs i dont do them because i dont feel the need to be any more fucked up than i can get off a joint and some vodka. as for why i started to smoke weed, it wasnt peer pressure or depression, i was at a party when i was 19 and some people were doing coke and i declined but said i would try some weed because i wanted to experience it. i had turned down weed when i was growing up many times but this time i had decided to try it. it was awesome

Does your opinion of a person change if you find out they use drugs?

it all depends on the drug. even before i had ever smoked i found myself getting along better with people that smoked weed. ive known people that were using harder drugs like coke and meth and my opinion of them was as long as they keep it away from me it was their decision. as far as crack and heroine i couldnt say if it lowers my opinion of a person because everyone i ever knew that did those drugs i didnt have a high opinion of before i found out what they did.