Poll: Drugs and You.

[Birdehh]

I find myself constantly changing opinions on drugs based on other peoples storys, since i have no firsthand experience it's hard for me to make a solid decision, for example i get told that some drugs are harmless, then i hear storys like what you have said here. It depends on the person and their responsabilities and ofcourse their reaction to the substances, but it all doesn't seem worth it, although highly hipocritical coming from someone who drinks alcohol quite regularly, which is probably down to the fact that it is legal, which leads people to believe that it's safe.

Really dude, listening to any amount of anecdotal evidence on a gaming website or anywhere else is bullshit.

It all has an inherent danger involved, some people will fuck up, some people won't. You have no way of knowing which you will be, the only way is to try, is it worth the risk for you? You seem to be edging towards no, which is probably the most sensible decision.

I'm definatly edging towards no, i would like to try some things, but i won't, as i stated in OP i see myself as too athletic/sporty to get involved with them. I find the storys people have from experiences to be interesting and educating, as i won't go there myself, i'm too paranoid that i'll fuck up.

The poll looks to have split the pack straight down the middle really, a slight difference shows a dislike infront, but it's definatly a subject with a lot of opinion.. Still looking for anyones experiences with something not yes discussed, mushrooms or LSD for example, quite keen to hear the effects on those

Mushrooms are pretty safe and are quite fun. The length of the trip varies depending on the amount you take, of course. Honestly it's impossible to adequately describe a psychedelic experience to someone who has never tried it, but I'll do my best. Just know that the only way to really know what this is like is to try it. It isn't just a fun high, the experience is guaranteed to change the way you think and perceive everything........

Thanks a lot for that, you seem to have a lot of knowledge on this and you've definatly taught me something today!

 

[janos16]

everything should be leagal probition does not work it just creats the conditions for crime in short it makes criminals if it is leagal and you have a emphasis on education i think that drugs could be used in moderation and help socioty if you look into almost any drug be it acid ecstasy pot or many others they have had uses practical uses mind you in the past if you just educate people they can make a informed decision and most of them wont do the drugs anyway well there you go thats what i think

 

[Zykon TheLich]

To treat heroin addicts, currently one of the most common methods is to place them on methadone. While this method is affective at taking the person off of heroin, they will remain on methadone permanently.

Using a scale, 10 being the hardest,worst drug, and 0 being basically harmless, it's like taking a person off of a 10 to place them on a 6 for the rest of their life.
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it's also less painfull and probably dangerous for you health to stop methadone than heroin. It's not perfect, but it's better than stay on heroin.

Hmmm...yes, dunno where he got this "on methadone permanently" business.

Subutex is easier still, perhaps too easy, and if you live in the UK and you don't respond to subutex or methadone they sometimes give you heroin anyway.

 

[Birdehh]

I think most of us in here can agree that there needs to be a lot more education of drugs for younger people?

 

[Littaly]

Drugs would probably never cross my mind. Except maybe weed, but it's illegal here so I'm not gonna make an effort to try.

 

[TheMatt]

As long as you have the will power, that is. That shit can destroy you. But if your mind is stonger then your body, like me, then once every 6 months is just fantastic.

Bullshit. You know how many times I've heard an idiot friend of mine go "...and the best part is, I'm not hooked!"?

So he has a weak mind. As I said, it takes will power.

And again, best fricken night you will ever have.

 

[Birdehh]

i dont see any real reason to take drugs unless you are a hopeless addict

That's funny, because I've heard more intelligent things out of ex-cokeheads. Why? Because they know what it was like and you don't. For that matter, neither do I and I plan to keep it that way because of things that I have only seen rather than done.

so you are saying people do coke for reasons other than addiction?[/quote]

It's funny how when you first came to this thread you weren't on probation, but now you are, showing that your attitude towards people here isn't well liked, maybe you should stop being so upfront and aggressive and think about things before you post.

 

[Birdehh]

im on probation for using the word "gay" in a different thread

Thats not the point, you're on probation for doing something that you quite clearly know you shouldn't. It doesn't change that fact that you're being inconsiderate in this thread, your first post proved that.

 

[electric_warrior]

i can tell you now that smoking weed won't fuck you up unless you're an utter twat about it, most drugs won't e.g. shrooms, lsd. do not, however, do anything beyond the milder hallucenogens and weed as most opiates will fuck you, so will most varieties of coke. also stay away from mescaline and pcp, they are nasty

 

[Ionami]

Marijuana is less addictive than Tobacco and Alcohol. Marijuana addiction is all in your head. You can smoke it for 30 days straight and stop cold turkey with no adverse side effects. I should know, I've done it many a times! Tobacco and alcohol....not so much.

Sorry, wrong.

Marijuana is less addictive than alcohol and tobacco to YOU. This is not the same for other people. A LOT of people have just as hard a time quitting weed as they do cigarettes, cocaine, heroine, etc.

Marijuana is ABSOLUTELY addictive, to certain people.

Bob Sagat said it best. "Have you ever sucked **** for Marijuana?" I seriously doubt anyone has. IF you have, then you can call yourself an addict.

That's ridiculous.

Go visit a rehab clinic. See how many people are in there for help with quitting marijuana.

And of course I haven't sucked dick for pot. But I WAS addicted to pot. You have no fucking clue what I went through, and what I put my family and friends through because of it.

Don't you fucking trivialize my experiences with pot, because you obviously have no idea what you're talking about. Quoting Bob Saget for use in a serious discussion... that's fucking comical.

 

[Ionami]

Double Post - Apologies

 

[Ionami]

Damn straight it's comical. True too. Boohoo for you.

It's absolutely not true. And boohoo for me? How exactly? I learned a hell of a lot about life from my experiences, and I'm better for it. You're stuck in your ignorant bubble.

 

[Twilight_guy]

1. They should all be illegal to discourage there use.
2. I do not use them because I find them to "bad".
3. Yes, when I find out that someone uses drugs my opinion of him immediately drops.

 

[Ionami]

To treat heroin addicts, currently one of the most common methods is to place them on methadone. While this method is affective at taking the person off of heroin, they will remain on methadone permanently.

Using a scale, 10 being the hardest,worst drug, and 0 being basically harmless, it's like taking a person off of a 10 to place them on a 6 for the rest of their life.
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it's also less painfull and probably dangerous for you health to stop methadone than heroin. It's not perfect, but it's better than stay on heroin.

Hmmm...yes, dunno where he got this "on methadone permanently" business.

Subutex is easier still, perhaps too easy, and if you live in the UK and you don't respond to subutex or methadone they sometimes give you heroin anyway.

People who go on methadone to assist in quitting heroin, often never come off of it.

 

[Ionami]

Here's an example:

To treat heroin addicts, currently one of the most common methods is to place them on methadone. While this method is affective at taking the person off of heroin, they will remain on methadone permanently.

Using a scale, 10 being the hardest,worst drug, and 0 being basically harmless, it's like taking a person off of a 10 to place them on a 6 for the rest of their life.

Hardly a great thing. Most of your average people, aren't aware of this. They also aren't aware of the fact that alcohol is the ONLY substance that has a potentially fatal withdrawal! Alcohol! (Note that I said withdrawal, not overdose.)

So, my point being, making this information more available and widespread amongst the public, would enable the government to ensure safer, cleaner supplies of drugs to informed adults who are able to make a decision on their own, about whether they want to use substances. It would also rake in a lot of cash for the government.

heroin can be fatal as well. it's not that common, i give you that, but if you're in bad shape, it have been seen that it cause respiratory or heart failure. and often when you take heroin, you are not in good shape after a while

it's also less painfull and probably dangerous for you health to stop methadone than heroin. It's not perfect, but it's better than stay on heroin.

Nope, heroin does not have a fatal WITHDRAWAL. You can OD, you can use until it just simply kills you, but it does not have a fatal withdrawal.

 

[cathou]

To treat heroin addicts, currently one of the most common methods is to place them on methadone. While this method is affective at taking the person off of heroin, they will remain on methadone permanently.

Using a scale, 10 being the hardest,worst drug, and 0 being basically harmless, it's like taking a person off of a 10 to place them on a 6 for the rest of their life.
*SNIP4space*

*SNIP4space*

it's also less painfull and probably dangerous for you health to stop methadone than heroin. It's not perfect, but it's better than stay on heroin.

Hmmm...yes, dunno where he got this "on methadone permanently" business.

Subutex is easier still, perhaps too easy, and if you live in the UK and you don't respond to subutex or methadone they sometimes give you heroin anyway.

People who are put on methadone to assist with quitting heroin, often never come off of it.

some will never quit methadone true, some also will replunge into heroin, but i dont think it's the majority. beside like i said, it's better for them to stay hook on methadone rather than heroin.

whatever these people will do, quit, stay on heroin, or methadone, they will be fucked up for all their life. each time i must have a pain killer for something, i have to be very carefull because most of those contain opioid, which my body will remember that it use to love it, and each time i see a doc i have to explain why i cannot take the medicine he want me to take.

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Nope, heroin does not have a fatal WITHDRAWAL. You can OD, you can use until it just simply kills you, but it does not have a fatal withdrawal.

"Although heroin withdrawal is considered less dangerous than alcohol or barbiturate withdrawal, sudden withdrawal by heavily dependent users who are in poor health is occasionally fatal."

source : http://www.nida.nih.gov/infofacts/heroin.html