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Randomologist

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I dislike them. I don't care what people do in their spare time, its not my business. My problem is where people get so addicted, they take up crime in an attempt to feed their addiction. Not particularly social. Then there's also the people who overdose-an unnecessary strain on our already overstretched healthcare system.
 

wewontdie11

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Blyyr said:
wewontdie11 said:
Everything up to and including LSD is not too bad, especially if you've got somebody who's sober to babysit you. Anything harder than that which you can become addicted to is a very bad idea.
You can, "Technically" get addicted to LSD, and I use the term "Addicted" Lightly.
For, the only way to get addicted you have to be using it for the wrong reasons ((I.e, Sadness))

But your right, any drug Man-made is a sin, and is not right, call it hypocritical, but I support only the drugs that grow from the ground, when chemicals are involved, that's when I go ageinst it.
Christ it would be horrifying taking LSD if you were depressed. I don't wanna know what imagery my brain would conjure under those circumstances.
 

whitelabel2k

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Randomologist said:
I dislike them. I don't care what people do in their spare time, its not my business. My problem is where people get so addicted, they take up crime in an attempt to feed their addiction. Not particularly social. Then there's also the people who overdose-an unnecessary strain on our already overstretched healthcare system.
See Artemis? Someone with viable reasons.
 

Lord Krunk

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Which should be legal and why?
Caffeine and pharmaceutical products are all I'm content with; alcohol is ambiguous to me. It causes a lot of harm, but it's also an effective socialising tool and part of our culture.
Why do you choose to use or not use them?
Really, if you need to take drugs to have a good time, then you're pretty low in my opinion.

Life: You're Doing It Wrong.

Not to mention the fact that I have seen several lives (and good people) destroyed by substances like cocaine and marijuana.
Does your opinion of a person change if you find out they use drugs?
I would be lying if I said that I didn't. But out of manners, I mostly just lower my expectations of them.
 

Blyyr

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wewontdie11 said:
Blyyr said:
wewontdie11 said:
Everything up to and including LSD is not too bad, especially if you've got somebody who's sober to babysit you. Anything harder than that which you can become addicted to is a very bad idea.
You can, "Technically" get addicted to LSD, and I use the term "Addicted" Lightly.
For, the only way to get addicted you have to be using it for the wrong reasons ((I.e, Sadness))

But your right, any drug Man-made is a sin, and is not right, call it hypocritical, but I support only the drugs that grow from the ground, when chemicals are involved, that's when I go ageinst it.
Christ it would be horrifying taking LSD if you were depressed. I don't wanna know what imagery my brain would conjure under those circumstances.
I've seen plenty people close to me do it, it's not a pretty sight, but it happens, alot, it's a painkiller, and when there's a painkiller available, people are going to use it regardless.
 

Blyyr

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Connor Lonske said:
Uhhhh, quick question. Are there any cops here? I'll post my opinion after i know.
If there was the S.W.A.T would be busting down my door in...
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No, It's clear. Go ahead.
 

Blyyr

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If that were true I would be locked up, and the key burned in the heart of the sun my friend...
whitelabel2k said:
Blyyr said:
Zeeky_Santos said:
Alcohol should be the only legal drug because it is the only one that when drunk in the right quantities has no harm to the body and is actually healthy. in the right amounts. n o other drug has a "right amount".
Very Untrue, there are more Alcohol related deaths this year in the U.S then deaths based on consumption on light drugs, like Marijuana.

Like I've said to previous posters, don;t make assumptions unless you have done them yourself, and if you didn't like it, well, there are people that do, and neither, you, nor the government can do anything to stop it completely.
Stop it! you can't talk sense on the internet! Thats illegal!
If that were true, I would be locked up for life, the key to my cell melted in the heart of the sun.
 

Connor Lonske

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Blyyr said:
Connor Lonske said:
Uhhhh, quick question. Are there any cops here? I'll post my opinion after i know.
If there was the S.W.A.T would be busting down my door in...
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No, It's clear. Go ahead.
OK then, both me and my dad smoke weed, and do nothing else. We protest cigarettes which are a million times worse. We don't drink. We don't do hard drugs. We just use a little weed now and then to cool down, and we live in NYC.
 

Koeryn

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Birdehh said:
SmilingKitsune said:
Drugs are bad m'kay?


I've never used them and don't intend to do so, I hate what they do to people.
Another question for you, and maybe others who have replied like you, what would you say/do if one of your loved ones got addicted to a drug? Would you still feel the same towards them as you do now?
No, I wouldn't. I've left three otherwise great girlfriends because they smoked pot, or did some other drug. The fourth becuase within three days of dating her, I found her to be a drug abusing, emo-cutter, cheating fucking WHORE.

The great majority of the friends I had in highschool now regularly smoke pot. I don't hang out with them anymore. Mostly becuase one of them tried to push it on me, and I almost broke his ribs.

I don't feel strongly about this at all, by the way.
 

Artemis923

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whitelabel2k said:
Artemis923 said:
whitelabel2k said:
Artemis923 said:
whitelabel2k said:
Artemis923 said:
Drugs are lame.
The people who use drugs are lame.
The fact that everyone assumes that the 19 year old guys gettin Mt Dews at 4 am are on drugs is lame.
The huge "cool factor" that drugs play in our pop culure is lame.
Kids that think drugs are cool are lame.
Drugs are lame.
At no time do you give a reason as to why these things are lame. The guy above you gave an opinion coupled with a fact, seemingly to move the debate onward. You swan in and join the likes of Rutawitz and Nazulu with an opinion based on anecdotal evidence or your own bias.
Who the hell says I need to give evidence for my own opinion? I don't like drugs, end of story.
And if you have just said that that, instead of calling people who LIKE certain drugs lame I would be fine with that. But you've just declared yourself against a whole swathe of society. The whole people who use drugs are lame thing only works if you're up for tossing out half your mp3s. As Bill Hicks said, "Drugs have done good things for us. If you don;t believe me then take all your records, tapes and CDs and burn them. Cos you know what? The musicians that made that great music that has enhanced your lives throughout the years, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL high on drugs"
1) I don't give a fig what you're "fine with".
2) The opinions of a drug crazed society mean precisely DICK to me.
3) You have no knowledge of my musical tastes, nor of the personal lives of the musicians. You go by ASSUMPTION, a poor choice for what you believe is a logical argument.
4) I could care less what Bill Hicks has to say.
5) You have wasted minutes of my life with your pro-drug garble. Go find someone else to bother, you troll.
Its hardly trolling if you want to open up a fair and balanced debate is it?

Trolling would be making sweeping generalizations. A drug CRAZED society eh? crikey. Obviously no one intelligent has EVER done drugs and they have never had ANY positive effects on the world. This applies to you too Searanox. Its the close mindedness thats annoying, the willingness to accept existing anecdotal evidence as fact.

Also, the musical tastes thing IS a logical movement, it proves that for a large amount of society drugs have had a positive outcome. Terribly sorry I've wasted your time with reasoned argument, at no point lowering myself to personal slights against you.

Cock.
Dude.

Drop it. You're not going to change my mind, and with each post your idiocy shines through.

"Obviously no one intelligent has EVER done drugs and they have never had ANY positive effects on the world."

You must have read the wrong post, because I said nothing of the sort.

"Its the close mindedness thats annoying, the willingness to accept existing anecdotal evidence as fact."

Your obvious bias is also absurdly annoying. You have shown no such evidence either.


"Also, the musical tastes thing IS a logical movement, it proves that for a large amount of society drugs have had a positive outcome."

Re-read my sentence: "You go by ASSUMPTION, a poor choice for what you believe is a logical argument."

It has NOTHING to do with music, so trying to use your "musical tastes thing" to counter-argue does nothing. I said nothing about my musical taste being logical. I said ASSUMPTION IS A POOR CHOICE FOR A LOGICAL ARGUMENT. Did you read it this time?

Furthermore, you have shown nothing to prove your claims that "...a large amount of society drugs have had a positive outcome...". Unless you can somehow PROVE that the musicians that I listen to are all doing drugs. Good luck with that.

And once again, you have successfully wasted my time. You should work on your writing technique. My eight year old sister could form a more cohesive argument than you have.
 

Blyyr

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Connor Lonske said:
Blyyr said:
Connor Lonske said:
Uhhhh, quick question. Are there any cops here? I'll post my opinion after i know.
If there was the S.W.A.T would be busting down my door in...
3...
2...
1...
No, It's clear. Go ahead.
OK then, both me and my dad smoke weed, and do nothing else. We protest cigarettes which are a million times worse. We don't drink. We don't do hard drugs. We just use a little weed now and then to cool down, and we live in NYC.
Not bad at all.
Weed is okay in my book, I believe.
I've drank, I've smoked weed, done shrooms, Acid, exstacy, alot of things, but that was a long time ago, I only continue to smoke weed, the rest are candy drugs, and will end up hurting your body.

Keep at it though.
And keep your fingers crossed one day they'll legalize.
 

Artemis923

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whitelabel2k said:
Randomologist said:
I dislike them. I don't care what people do in their spare time, its not my business. My problem is where people get so addicted, they take up crime in an attempt to feed their addiction. Not particularly social. Then there's also the people who overdose-an unnecessary strain on our already overstretched healthcare system.
See Artemis? Someone with viable reasons.
Why I should have to explain my opinions to you is beyond me. Just accept the fact that I'm anti-drug and move on.
 

Blyyr

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Artemis923 said:
whitelabel2k said:
Randomologist said:
I dislike them. I don't care what people do in their spare time, its not my business. My problem is where people get so addicted, they take up crime in an attempt to feed their addiction. Not particularly social. Then there's also the people who overdose-an unnecessary strain on our already overstretched healthcare system.
See Artemis? Someone with viable reasons.
Why I should have to explain my opinions to you is beyond me. Just accept the fact that I'm anti-drug and move on.
It's simple, your fight ageinst drugs is unfounded, some drugs diserve to be rid of, but not all of them.

Are you incapable of creating a logical arguement to support your theorys?
 

whitelabel2k

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Artemis923 said:
whitelabel2k said:
Artemis923 said:
whitelabel2k said:
Artemis923 said:
whitelabel2k said:
Artemis923 said:
Drugs are lame.
The people who use drugs are lame.
The fact that everyone assumes that the 19 year old guys gettin Mt Dews at 4 am are on drugs is lame.
The huge "cool factor" that drugs play in our pop culure is lame.
Kids that think drugs are cool are lame.
Drugs are lame.
At no time do you give a reason as to why these things are lame. The guy above you gave an opinion coupled with a fact, seemingly to move the debate onward. You swan in and join the likes of Rutawitz and Nazulu with an opinion based on anecdotal evidence or your own bias.
Who the hell says I need to give evidence for my own opinion? I don't like drugs, end of story.
And if you have just said that that, instead of calling people who LIKE certain drugs lame I would be fine with that. But you've just declared yourself against a whole swathe of society. The whole people who use drugs are lame thing only works if you're up for tossing out half your mp3s. As Bill Hicks said, "Drugs have done good things for us. If you don;t believe me then take all your records, tapes and CDs and burn them. Cos you know what? The musicians that made that great music that has enhanced your lives throughout the years, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL high on drugs"
1) I don't give a fig what you're "fine with".
2) The opinions of a drug crazed society mean precisely DICK to me.
3) You have no knowledge of my musical tastes, nor of the personal lives of the musicians. You go by ASSUMPTION, a poor choice for what you believe is a logical argument.
4) I could care less what Bill Hicks has to say.
5) You have wasted minutes of my life with your pro-drug garble. Go find someone else to bother, you troll.
Its hardly trolling if you want to open up a fair and balanced debate is it?

Trolling would be making sweeping generalizations. A drug CRAZED society eh? crikey. Obviously no one intelligent has EVER done drugs and they have never had ANY positive effects on the world. This applies to you too Searanox. Its the close mindedness thats annoying, the willingness to accept existing anecdotal evidence as fact.

Also, the musical tastes thing IS a logical movement, it proves that for a large amount of society drugs have had a positive outcome. Terribly sorry I've wasted your time with reasoned argument, at no point lowering myself to personal slights against you.

Cock.
Dude.

Drop it. You're not going to change my mind, and with each post your idiocy shines through.

"Obviously no one intelligent has EVER done drugs and they have never had ANY positive effects on the world."

You must have read the wrong post, because I said nothing of the sort.

"Its the close mindedness thats annoying, the willingness to accept existing anecdotal evidence as fact."

Your obvious bias is also absurdly annoying. You have shown no such evidence either.


"Also, the musical tastes thing IS a logical movement, it proves that for a large amount of society drugs have had a positive outcome."

Re-read my sentence: "You go by ASSUMPTION, a poor choice for what you believe is a logical argument."

It has NOTHING to do with music, so trying to use your "musical tastes thing" to counter-argue does nothing. I said nothing about my musical taste being logical. I said ASSUMPTION IS A POOR CHOICE FOR A LOGICAL ARGUMENT. Did you read it this time?

Furthermore, you have shown nothing to prove your claims that "...a large amount of society drugs have had a positive outcome...". Unless you can somehow PROVE that the musicians that I listen to are all doing drugs. Good luck with that.

And once again, you have successfully wasted my time. You should work on your writing technique. My eight year old sister could form a more cohesive argument than you have.
It must be because I'm so damned high. It's weird, that.

Anyway, of course i have a bias, but what i don't say is "Anyone who doesn't do drugs is a dick"

Also, it has been PROVED that a large number of fantastic musicians use drugs, and sometimes not just those crazy beatniks. Francis Crick, nobel prize winner and father of modern genetic science admits to USING LSD on himself. In fact he thanks LSD for increasing his power of thought, allowing him to realise the double helix structure of DNA.

This was printed in the Daily Mail over here in merry olde england, one of our most conservative papers.

http://www.mayanmajix.com/art1699.html

Pity this nobel prize winner is so LAME.
 

Artemis923

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Blyyr said:
Artemis923 said:
whitelabel2k said:
Randomologist said:
I dislike them. I don't care what people do in their spare time, its not my business. My problem is where people get so addicted, they take up crime in an attempt to feed their addiction. Not particularly social. Then there's also the people who overdose-an unnecessary strain on our already overstretched healthcare system.
See Artemis? Someone with viable reasons.
Why I should have to explain my opinions to you is beyond me. Just accept the fact that I'm anti-drug and move on.
It's simple, your fight ageinst drugs is unfounded, some drugs diserve to be rid of, but not all of them.

Are you incapable of creating a logical arguement to support your theorys?
Your opinion means even less than his.

It's called spelling kids. Learn it.

By the gods, you guys are acting like I'm marching in the street protesting the end of all drugs. I honestly do not care what people do in their spare freaking time, so long as it doesn't infringe upon mine. Again, I was simply stating that I don't like drugs. Why is that so god damned hard to accept?!
 

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Artemis923 said:
Blyyr said:
Artemis923 said:
whitelabel2k said:
Randomologist said:
I dislike them. I don't care what people do in their spare time, its not my business. My problem is where people get so addicted, they take up crime in an attempt to feed their addiction. Not particularly social. Then there's also the people who overdose-an unnecessary strain on our already overstretched healthcare system.
See Artemis? Someone with viable reasons.
Why I should have to explain my opinions to you is beyond me. Just accept the fact that I'm anti-drug and move on.
It's simple, your fight ageinst drugs is unfounded, some drugs diserve to be rid of, but not all of them.

Are you incapable of creating a logical arguement to support your theorys?
Your opinion means even less than his.

It's called spelling kids. Learn it.

By the gods, you guys are acting like I'm marching in the street protesting the end of all drugs. I honestly do not care what people do in their spare freaking time, so long as it doesn't infringe upon mine. Again, I was simply stating that I don't like drugs. Why is that so god damned hard to accept?!
I hate when someone who supports my point of view cannot spell. Really. It vexes me something awful. Also, "I don't like drugs" was not what you stated. What YOU said was, "Drugs are lame. The people who use drugs are lame." Now thats a personal slight against me and anyone else on this thread holding an opinion different to yours.

You see what's annoying there? You saying "Drugs are lame" is fine! It's your opinion and you have the right to such. But you called ME lame. You called anyone who uses drugs lame. And THAT is the problem.
 

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Damn. I'm always forgetting that some people class Alcohol as a drug. I didn't read the OP in that light.

My Xbox Live bio is "legally drunk..."