Poll: Duke Nukem - Why?

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Fieldy409_v1legacy

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do you really think 'mature' games are going to make fox news respect us any more? our only chance is to outlive all these old guys who arent from the gaming generation and then we will be a majority.

It doesnt matter, let there be games to suit every persons tastes. And if people dont like it, it wont sell and we wont see another duke nukem game anyway.
 

varulfic

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Dulcinea said:
varulfic said:
No it doesn't. The end.
Obviously that response required a great deal of thought.
I didn't elaborate because... well, I shouldn't have to. The idea that one game being mindless fun undermines the more story based, "deeper" games is just ridonkulous. You think if DNF is successful, Bioware will stop making their games character driven? Maybe cancel Dragon Age 3 and instead focus on a Tomb Raider clone with Isabela? Maybe the next Heavy Rain will be a sitcom set in a strip club.

There should be as many different games as possible, so games can cater to as many different tastes or moods as possible. Sometimes you want to fully immerse yourself in games with rich storylines, and sometimes you just want to blow off some steam and some alien heads. The world of gaming is big enough to cater to both these demographics. Obviously, durrr.
 

Still Life

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So many Big Budget titles recently released, or in development take themselves way too seriously. DNF doesn't, and that's a breath of fresh air especially amongst a community which fashions itself as the 'chardonnay sipping', high-brow elite.

I will be laughing with it: some things should be flamboyant and incorrect for the sake of sanity and perspective.

Dulcinea said:
And that is what you should have said the first time - this being a forum for discussion and all.
We have moderators for this.
 

Zaik

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I'll be buying it if the demo turns out well.

Also saying it "undoes" something else is silly at best and pretentious as hell at worst. Maybe you want to be some sort of "gentleman's gamer", but don't assume I'm supposed to dislike something simply because it doesn't "move games forward" or whatever pretentious crap that probably came straight out of an Extra Credits episode.

I couldn't care less about "moving games forward".
 

Still Life

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bahumat42 said:
did everyone forget serious sams due out this year
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/02/28/serious-sam-3-announced/
http://fourplayercoop.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Serious_Sam_05.jpg

which WILL be a better game than duke. Seriously anybody who buys duke just doesn't check release schedules.
Holy crap!

I'm so glad you refreshed my memory. Looks awesome!
 

NerdElf

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Because you always bet on Duke. Hail to the king, baby. Or else he'll cut down your neck and shit down your throat. That and the fact that all other games are shit. Besides some indie releases, no game will be as good as this one in the near future.
 

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Ryan Griffiths said:
My biggest problem with this game is that it undoes everything that the games industry, those hard working individuals and teams behind some truly amazing work. Games like the Uncharted series, Heavy Rain (I know not fantastic gameplay, but stay with me here) and Mass Effect. Games that moved away from just being "childrens toys".
But some of us WANT more 'children's toys' games. I want a silly game without all the seriousness of those examples you gave. I've played those games, and I love those games, but c'mon, if somebody gives me the opportunity to play as a wisecracking, mysoginistic, one-liner spewing, machismo stereotype, I'm gonna take it. There are plenty of games which have serious storylines and raise the bar for gaming, but they can't all be like that. Sometimes you just want something silly.

Also, I loved the previous Nukem games (still do, and play them regularly) so this is a no-brainer purchase.
 

EHKOS

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I don't know, old games were good, we liked them. We still like them and remember them fondly, I don't see why not.
 

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Almost certainly not buying it. The trailers so far have looked really awful

Edit: after some thinking, i reckon it'll be another Bulletstorm. Everyone looked forward to a fun, childish shooter but were disappointed by the agonizingly insubstantial campaign and forgettable multiplayer.
 

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first of all: i am not getting the duke until he drops his pants ähm i mean until the price drops.
the duke is not a beefy, gritty space marine who lives in a world that is exclusively grey and brown and he is also not a brightly colored tin can with the personality of rotten tuna.
I am not saying he is this brilliant, deep character who could get me to care about social issues or AIDS some other serious topic but the Duke is fun. The game will probably be fun, i trust the guys at gearbox to do that, borderlands was great.
It's just over the top fun non-serious entertainment and i like that mixed in with my artsy 2d platformers and my gritty everything else.

oh and thank you for mentioning Duke Nukem and Uncharted in the same post, i now have the mental image of Duke ripping open Nathan Drakes face with his pinkies and shitting down his neck. Wisecrack your way out of that.
 

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I'm gonna buy it. It looks more fun than anything else that's coming out and personally I think games take themselves too seriously now. I like wacky, retarded fun because that's what I got into games for, not deep intellectual story telling.
 

John the Gamer

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maybe they made it so extremely over the top to make other games less extreme, lessening the public fear towards the effect of said games on the joung: It's drawing all the hate towards itself... Maybe?
 

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before you decide you have to realise its a duke nukem game, not these "hyper realistic" stuff we find today...
 

Still Life

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teebeeohh said:
oh and thank you for mentioning Duke Nukem and Uncharted in the same post, i now have the mental image of Duke ripping open Nathan Drakes face with his pinkies and shitting down his neck. Wisecrack your way out of that.
Duke eats big Spess Mahrens like radioactive twinkies.
 

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Ryan Griffiths said:
Why the hell is there a Duke Nukem game coming out in this day and age? (Because people demand a First Person Shooter that isn't so dead serious, and Duke Nukem 3D is one of the greatest FPS games ever) Duke is a like a cool stoner friend that you had way back when, as a teenager. You go away, stop speaking and when you did some growing up, got a job and you bump into him and its really awkward. (I see where you're coming from, but you can still have an awesome time with that person through childish fun. Just because you're physically growing up doesn't mean you have to stop doing everything you enjoyed beforehand when you were younger. Also, why a stoner?)

You know what, I'll put it out there and admit that I actually played through two Duke Nukem games on the PS1, (There's your problem, you're eating the fat off the big juicy steak and judging the steak as a whole based on that bit you've tried. Try Duke Nukem 3D. It's awesome) and they weren't that funny then, and its going to be...controversial at best today. (FOX is already on this. We've been over it.) I'm not saying that this game shouldn't be made, because there are some people who are curious about it, or that loved the old games, hell - most of the people who play this game will probably be 16 year old teens, who shouldn't be playing anyway. (Duke Nukem 3D was released 15 years ago and sold at least 3 million copies at the time, not including the GoG sales and the people who pirated it when there was the time before GoG and after you couldn't get it, and cemented Duke in gaming history. I think the people who've played that game will be the main audience, and they would not have been 1 year old when playing it.)

I just want to go on the record and say "I really don't care if someone under the age restriction plays or watches something they shouldn't" - for the most part anyway.

My biggest problem with this game is that it undoes everything that the games industry, (lolwut?) those hard working individuals and teams behind some truly amazing work. Games like the Uncharted series, Heavy Rain (I know not fantastic gameplay, but stay with me here) and Mass Effect. Games that moved away from just being "childrens toys". (Hold up, hold up. Are you saying that no media can have it's over the top, bad-ass action genres anymore? Are you saying that it can't be silly and enjoyable, whilst also taking the piss? What the hell are you on about? Movies have been doing this for years and they're regarded as art. Don't look at the state of the music industry, when it was considered the highest class of entertainment 100 odd years ago and now divulged into what it is today, you may just fall over) Developers that thought outside the box, giving the player something that can enrich their experience. These games demonstrate that you can have movie quality like content within a game and take it further, make it unique and it'll last a lot longer than a film. You watch a film thats an hour and a half, two hours for a longer film, 9if you watch Lord of the Rings, but a short game game could last you up to 20 hours. (No, a short game is considered less than 10 in my book, and we're getting a lot of those games. A LOT of those games. Ones that last 20 hours may appear, but they are getting increasingly rare) I've gone off topic---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Right, Duke Nukem. Whenever I talk about it, my friends all say, "I remember how fun it was" and I think, well, it was fun...but I was young and stupid back then. I thought Akhmed the puppet was funny back then. Then I grew up and I thought - wow...this really shouldn't be sold mainstream, or even at all. I know theres a market for it, but how many law suits do you think are going to come out of this game "having a laugh" is going to cause? (About as many as South Park does, but people still like that, because Duke and South Park have one key similarity. They are satirical and are poking fun. Everything in the world is a joke! When Duke Nukem 3D came out, there was a billboard that said "Guilty?" as a clear reference to the OJ Simpson Trial, as well as all the stripper movies that were in the Cinema in the first level.) Everyone with their brand stamped on this are walking a tight rope about this - if its as bad as it could be, then bankruptcy is not a far fetched idea. (No. Bankruptcy will not happen. Unless Duke puts on a white hood and burns crosses, nothing like that will happen from the content of this game)

I suppose 2K didnt help themselves out when they decided to release this the same year as Mortal Kombat. (Oh I see now. I see why you've only just brought this up.) Now if you look at how far the industry has come as a whole and then how far back into immaturity we've gone this year...yeah...not good is it? (Listen, you've taken two games, which you probably haven't played, and you've said they are damaging the game industry. Mortal Kombat is doing it's thing straight faced, except some of it's sillier aspects, like "babality". Duke Nukem is not. It takes EVERYTHING as a joke. Nothing Duke does is meant to be taken seriously. The entire game is taking the piss, I can't emphasise that enough, but we like it because of that. We want to see someone who is taking the piss, have a piss then shoot an alien in the face. Just because Yahtzee has argued that Mortal Kombat is trying to send us in the wrong direction of gaming, doesn't mean it applies to every game that pushes the boundary of the rating system.)

Judge for yourself anyway, I've got to play it to review, but I'm not looking forward to that one. Wow...boobs. Yeah smack that butt. BFG! C'mon, just go watch porn and then play some TF2. Same damn result. (Nope. Different result. No Shrink rays, no Freezethrowers, too many hats. Multiplayer only. What I'm getting at here, is that Duke is different to pretty much every FPS out there because of Duke and the world he lives in. The weapons, the aliens, the people in the world and the man himself make the game.)
The industry has a right to make any game it wants. Were you complaining when Bulletstorm came out? Were you complaining when Kick-Ass came out in cinemas? Pretty much the same things there. Big Dumb Fun. That's what people want. To paraphrase the man you're probably trying to impress:

Yahtzee said:
I'd rather be stupid and having fun than bored out of my vast incredible mind.
If someone could tell me where he says that, that'd be great. I remember him saying it and it's a good quote.

Calumon: Errmmm... I don't... Aren't I too young to be here? There's big words and something about someone I don't know. :S
 

Vrach

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Ugh, can we stop with the "omfg, this game is not pure art, it will undo everything we've worked so hard for!!!" argument? It's beyond retarded and just makes you look like you need a colonoscopy to locate your head. Honestly, I hate seeing it more than I hate to see Fox and similar douchebags wail on the industry, at least you know those guys are clueless morons with an agenda who don't even put thought into the shit they're spouting, if you're supposed to be a gamer, you should know better than that, more so if you wanna get up on your high horse and talk art and artistic value.

Not every single game needs to be an artistic one (also, repeat after me, "art is subjective, art is subjective, art is subjective"). You know how you can have a pile of romantic comedy bullshits, Fast and Furious part 46 and all of that and still not think "oh the movie industry is crap and movies have no artistic value, just look at these films!"? Yeah, same goes here.

Besides, Duke's satiric portrayal of macho male chauvinism can be viewed as artistic. Satiric comedy, look it up.

edit: Also, not gonna quote him, but see just about everything Jack&Calumon just said above^