Poll: Duke Nukem - Why?

[gmaverick019_v1legacy]

well aren't you on a high horse? that sure looks like mighty amounts of credible fun up there!


anyways, i could care less for the duke, even though it has lots of merits for me to highly enjoy, but why the hell does every game have to be "artistic and deep"? that is the same fucking bullshit i hated about when critics judge movies, SOMETIMES i love to watch fucking movies where they just fling poop at each other and implode while thinking about cheese! that same mentality goes for video games, and obviously there was shit tons of people who did want the game to come out so they are providing that service, which i see no problem with. Personally i probably won't buy it, because it just isn't my kind of cheezy humor, but hell if more people like you keep popping up i might just buy the damn game out of spite to keep the dirty poo toilet games a churnin

WTF IS THAT! that isn't a captcha, that's bullshit greek symbols, which my keyboard cannot provide!

 

[_tinned_magpie_]

Now I should point out that I don't mind some offensive, crass or downright stupid material in my games, after all I did enjoy DN3D, but from what I've seen of DNF so far, it simply has too much of that going on this time around. And when you have too much of that it stops being funny and starts being obnoxious. But that's how I feel about it at least.

This would be my reasoning. I don't need crass humour and deliberate attempts to shock and offend in my games, and I don't appreciate it either. Some is fine, especially mixed with other types of humour (hell, then it can be hysterical), but Duke Nukem seems to be that and only that, which puts me off. As far as I'm concerned, it's about as funny as fart jokes or a pre-teen picking their nose.

I don't think it's 'destroying gaming' like some people claim (although Fox News are going to be frothing at the mouth about this, the whiny little trolls), and I agree that it's probably a parody, and meant for the gamers who first played the originals. I don't care about that though. I just don't want to buy a game where a high point in the trailer is watching your character pee.

 

[Still Life]

WTF IS THAT! that isn't a captcha, that's bullshit greek symbols, which my keyboard cannot provide!

Looks like a cross between Russian and Spanish.

[sup]But if I look at it this way...[/sup]

 

[cridia]

No, I won't buy it. Although I won't simply because I do not like first person shooters; have never been able to enjoy those for some reason. Besides, I grew up with consoles; I played PC games very rarily. I do remember playing the 2D duke once, but I have never played the 3D one. I don't share the same kind of nostalgia for the Duke like a lot of people

 

[Voxgizer]

Definitely, been a fan of Duke for years.

 

[TheRightToArmBears]

I'm well prepared that it'll probably be meh. I an understand that people want games that don't take themselves that seriously ( to be honest I never felt that CoD takes itself seriously anyway), but I don't really see how having a 10 year old boy's sense of humour is any better. In any case, I doubt it will be anything other than average except for having Duke, which I really don't see as anything particularly exciting as I never played a Duke game when I was a kid and so the humour has no nostalgia-factor to make it good.

Basically, it's going to make money out of kids and nostalgia.

 

[ZaxqZombie]

Because its fun, god what kind of stupid question is that?

 

[KrubixCube]

My biggest problem with this game is that it undoes everything that the games industry, those hard working individuals and teams behind some truly amazing work

First of all...this isn't true. You know what undoes what these developers do? You. The consumer (not you personally). If you're complaining that games like these shouldn't be made, you're entitled to that opinion, but does it equal the fall of all that is good in the gaming industry? Of course not.

Second, should we be sensitive to kids seeing and playing stuff like this? Yes. It is intended for adults, and should be kept that way. It's possible I misread you on that, so if I did I apologize.

I guess I'm saying that I don't think your opinion is wrong, you're entitled to it but I don't see why you're taking the fact that people like the game so personally. There's worse things out there in other mediums. For instance...Twilight. As a book, and as a film it is horrible, but is the film industry and everything positive it's done gone? Nope, and last I checked literature was still standing though that's another debate I suppose.

And for the record, I don't think people liking Duke Nukem's immature humor makes them immature, it's satire. Whether it's successful satire or not, I don't know, I haven't played it but you'd have to be pretty sensitive to take anything in it seriously.

 

[JochemDude]

No I shall not let my memory of the Duke get pooped on by lazy greedy developers.

 

[SomethingUnrelated]

I think Randy Pitchford made a good point himself; It'd be a pathetic ending to that particular story if it turned out that the game wasn't being made anyway. Not to say that entirely justifies making it, but I'd also say that there are still a lot of people looking forward to it, perhaps even more so now that it involves the whole 'vaporware' story.

 

[Nathan Nishimoto]

Not just yes but HELLS YES! Take your Marxist socialist whining and shove it, free market demand capitalism rox!

 

[Wolfram23]

You point out these "serious" games like it's the greatest thing ever. Maybe I want to play a game that lets me throw my turd and see titties. Hell, last night just for fun I hired a prostitute in Witcher 2. Yay boobs!

 

[Triforceformer]

Just to save myself a few responses, yes I know loads of people are going to go buy it and that's how the games industry works, jeez.

Why the hell is there a Duke Nukem game coming out in this day and age? Duke is a like a cool stoner friend that you had way back when, as a teenager. You go away, stop speaking and when you did some growing up, got a job and you bump into him and its really awkward.

For you. For me and many other Duke fans, it's more a friend who promised us he'd take us to Disneyland. Many years pass with him still saying he will, he just needs to make plans. After about 12 years, we hear word that our friend died in a car crash. We mourn his loss and the broken promise of Disneyland, but eventually get over it. But it turns out that he didn't die, he's alive and kicking, and he is taking us to mother fucking Disneyland.

Are we older and more mature than we used to be? Yes. Does that mean I can't still enjoy Disneyland? Hell no.

You know what, I'll put it out there and admit that I actually played through two Duke Nukem games on the PS1, and they weren't that funny then, and its going to be...controversial at best today. I'm not saying that this game shouldn't be made, because there are some people who are curious about it, or that loved the old games, hell - most of the people who play this game will probably be 16 year old teens, who shouldn't be playing anyway

I am one of them. And from what I heard, the PS1 port of DN3D ws not exactly the best kind of port. What with awkward controls and cut content and all that jazz. I'm also guessing you played "Land of the Babes", which is universally considered awful amongst the fan base.

I just want to go on the record and say "I really don't care if someone under the age restriction plays or watches something they shouldn't" - for the most part anyway.

Metalocalypse is my favorite show, since you mention.

My biggest problem with this game is that it undoes everything that the games industry, those hard working individuals and teams behind some truly amazing work. Games like the Uncharted series, Heavy Rain (I know not fantastic gameplay, but stay with me here) and Mass Effect. Games that moved away from just being "childrens toys".

And Duke isn't a child's toy. It's a parody, satire, and celebration of over-the-top Macho-Man action heros. That's what Duke is. They threw all the best action heros into a pot, exaggerated it to the point of parody, and gave him a voice of his own. It just so happens that his voice can also appeal to kids who have no idea what he really is.

Developers that thought outside the box, giving the player something that can enrich their experience.

Well if you want to get pedantic, Duke Nukem Forever was fucking revolutionary back in the day. Jetpacks, talking characters, and levels set in the real world were all mind-blowing for FPSes back then. 3D Realms told the box to fuck off back in 1996.

Right, Duke Nukem. Whenever I talk about it, my friends all say, "I remember how fun it was" and I think, well, it was fun...but I was young and stupid back then. I thought Akhmed the puppet was funny back then. Then I grew up and I thought - wow...this really shouldn't be sold mainstream, or even at all.

Well my favorite cartoon when I was a kid was Ed, Edd, n Eddy. It's still pretty damn good nowadays too. So maybe your childhood was just kind of crap, I don't know.

I know theres a market for it, but how many law suits do you think are going to come out of this game "having a laugh" is going to cause?

...Absolutely none? At most Fox News will get their biased panties in a bunch. Duke Nukem Forever doesn't so much cross the line as it does break dance on it, says Gearbox's CEO. The main purpose of DNF's existence is to be the game fans have waited over a decade for. A secondary (If unintentional) purpose is to see just what is and is not acceptable nowadays. Sure 3-titted alien queens seem to be fine, but what about using a hot woman as a flag for CTF and having to spank her to get her to your base? What crosses the audience's line?

I suppose 2K didnt help themselves out when they decided to release this the same year as Mortal Kombat. Now if you look at how far the industry has come as a whole and then how far back into immaturity we've gone this year...yeah...not good is it?

Oh nooooooo, two games come out this year that are just there to be bloody fun. Sure Bioware is still Bioware, but now Mass Effect 3 will have strip clubs and cheesy one-liners because Duke Nukem Forever finally came out. I mean, do you have any idea how stupid what you just said even is?

Judge for yourself anyway, I've got to play it to review, but I'm not looking forward to that one. Wow...boobs. Yeah smack that butt. BFG! C'mon, just go watch porn and then play some TF2. Same damn result.

Don't forget the puzzles, many unique weapons, 15-hour campaign, un-paralleled amount of interactivity, multiplayer mutators, and this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1I_j1AzOOSk

Is it immature? Yes. Is it going to be a blast? Also yes. Is it going to undo 15 years of gaming "Maturation" and send us back to the 90s? ...Do I really need to answer this one?

 

[HAVERSHA]

It's good to have a mix. I love games like Mass Effect (and I probably would have loved Heavy Rain if I had a PS3 as well) but sometimes I feel the need for a laugh. Hopefully Duke will supply that.

 

[Wireframefool]

did everyone forget serious sams due out this year
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/02/28/serious-sam-3-announced/
http://fourplayercoop.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Serious_Sam_05.jpg

which WILL be a better game than duke. Seriously anybody who buys duke just doesn't check release schedules.

A new Serious Sam? Holy crap! Why have I been kept in the dark about this?

 

[ProfessorLayton]

I played Heavy Rain, Uncharted, and Mass Effect and I'm still getting Duke Nukem Forever. Duke Nukem doesn't undo anything. It's like saying the Fast and the Furious ruined film. It's just a fun little silly game. Not every game has to be 100% serious all the time. There will be no lawsuits because the game isn't serious and isn't meant to be taken seriously at all.

Say what you like about the game (after it comes out and you've played it for yourself, that is), but making assumptions about the kind of people who play games like Duke Nukem is simply wrong. I'm kind of tired of people acting like a game can't be good unless it's "dark and gritty" or something. Why can't a game just be silly fun?

did everyone forget serious sams due out this year
http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2011/02/28/serious-sam-3-announced/
-snip-

which WILL be a better game than duke. Seriously anybody who buys duke just doesn't check release schedules.

Is it impossible to get both? Because Serious Sam is actually a ton of fun and I'm definitely going to grab that one when it comes out as well.

 

[Callate]

I recognize that to some extent comparisons to the movie industry don't apply. That said... I'm going to go ahead and torture a comparison to the movie industry. Because movies aren't taken seriously just because they make Schindler's List and Sunset Boulevard and Network. The same medium also has room for Scre4m and Your Highness and Piranha 3D. You might think the latter are atrocious (and you might be right), but the industry does both and while you might or might not choose to partake of any of the above, no one judges movies as a whole on the basis of a single entry.

Real growth of the medium can only occur when creators have the license to make grand artistic visions and pandering gut-level disposables (not to say with certainty that DN4 will be the latter.) National Geographic and Cosmopolitan. Da Vinci and Warhol. "I, Claudius" and "Jersey Shore".

 

[Iron Mal]

I personally do want to play Duke Nukem (and if I had the disposable income to accomidate it I would be interested in getting it).

Just to save myself a few responses, yes I know loads of people are going to go buy it and that's how the games industry works, jeez.

Why the hell is there a Duke Nukem game coming out in this day and age? Duke is a like a cool stoner friend that you had way back when, as a teenager. You go away, stop speaking and when you did some growing up, got a job and you bump into him and its really awkward.

You know what, I'll put it out there and admit that I actually played through two Duke Nukem games on the PS1, and they weren't that funny then, and its going to be...controversial at best today. I'm not saying that this game shouldn't be made, because there are some people who are curious about it, or that loved the old games, hell - most of the people who play this game will probably be 16 year old teens, who shouldn't be playing anyway.

I just want to go on the record and say "I really don't care if someone under the age restriction plays or watches something they shouldn't" - for the most part anyway.

My biggest problem with this game is that it undoes everything that the games industry, those hard working individuals and teams behind some truly amazing work. Games like the Uncharted series, Heavy Rain (I know not fantastic gameplay, but stay with me here) and Mass Effect. Games that moved away from just being "childrens toys". Developers that thought outside the box, giving the player something that can enrich their experience. These games demonstrate that you can have movie quality like content within a game and take it further, make it unique and it'll last a lot longer than a film. You watch a film thats an hour and a half, two hours for a longer film, 9if you watch Lord of the Rings, but a short game game could last you up to 20 hours. I've gone off topic---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Right, Duke Nukem. Whenever I talk about it, my friends all say, "I remember how fun it was" and I think, well, it was fun...but I was young and stupid back then. I thought Akhmed the puppet was funny back then. Then I grew up and I thought - wow...this really shouldn't be sold mainstream, or even at all. I know theres a market for it, but how many law suits do you think are going to come out of this game "having a laugh" is going to cause? Everyone with their brand stamped on this are walking a tight rope about this - if its as bad as it could be, then bankruptcy is not a far fetched idea.

I suppose 2K didnt help themselves out when they decided to release this the same year as Mortal Kombat. Now if you look at how far the industry has come as a whole and then how far back into immaturity we've gone this year...yeah...not good is it?

Judge for yourself anyway, I've got to play it to review, but I'm not looking forward to that one. Wow...boobs. Yeah smack that butt. BFG! C'mon, just go watch porn and then play some TF2. Same damn result.

Let me put it this way, the film industry has both Michael Bay and Guillermo Del Toro, the former is a fellow who always just seems to put out mindless, explosion riddled eye candy (which does suspiciously well) whilst the latter has a great artistic vision and unique visuals.

The literary world has both Stephenie Meyer and J.R.R. Tolkein (again, former is seen as something of a lowest common denominator and the latter is seen as the guy who pretty much crafted our mental image of fantasy).

In the world of video games we have Duke Nukem (very much a guilty pleasure in how crude and borderline offensive it'll probably be) and games like Farenheit and Heavy Rain (which sacrifice simple fun in the name of artistic vision).

Also, your issue with how Duke Nukem is allegedly like an old stoner buddy doesn't really ring true in my experience. The gameplay was fun and the comedy in it was either very straight foward if you take it at face value or a bit of a satirical parody if you stop to think about how over the top it is most of the time (I don't think that the devs were really expecting us to take the game seriously and I honestly can't fault them for at least having a sense of humour about it).

Yes, people are going to take offence to it but that's not nessercarily a bad thing in itself (with a game like Duke Nukem it would be next to impossible to make it without it offending someone), there is something of a cathartic entertainment value in being able to revel in the sheer bluntness of a game that has you tip strippers, deficate on alien corpses and generally be the poster child of misogyny.

I wouldn't say Duke Nukem is any more harmful to the perception of video games for it's crudeness than Farenheit and Heavy Rain are for the fact that they seemingly forgot that a good game does in fact need good gameplay (a 'cinematic experience' didn't really sell me on Heavy Rain, I can't help but be cynical about it).

I think you're being a bit extreme when you say that Duke Nukem Forever will be exactly the same as watching porn and playing TF2 (I get the feeling that you may be missing the point somewhat of the game).