Poll: Fallout 3 vs Fallout: New Vegas: Which did you like more?
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I wouldn't call it a failure either, just "over-implementation" I guess would be the word. In Fallout 3 you have to rely on VATS. In New Vegas you don't. New Vegas just allows for more play-styles. Or maybe not play-styles, but ways to play(first person, third person, using/not using VATS).Woodsey said:
I prefer Fallout 3 i think. Mostly because ol' west themes just don't fit for me. I never was into cowboys and bandits (although Red Dead might change that when I get a chance to play it), plus running around in the ruins of DC was fun 
Fallout New Vegas is fun for sure, but like i said before, old west isn't my style. Aside from the theme, New Vegas was fun, the actual city was a little underwhelming (cmon, only 5 or 6 actual buildings??)
Fallout New Vegas is fun for sure, but like i said before, old west isn't my style. Aside from the theme, New Vegas was fun, the actual city was a little underwhelming (cmon, only 5 or 6 actual buildings??)
I liked them both, because I LOVE open world games that are littered with secrets and quests you might not find even in 30 playthroughs.
Fallout 3 takes gold though because what pisses me off about NV is that the best guns arn't found in scavenger hunts, they're found by going to gun runners and buying them. Seriously, the best sniper rifle in the game isn't in the bathroom in a building in the corner of the map, it's the anti-material sniper rifle that you get off of high level legion/NCR troops. Same goes for the riot shotgun. Bullshit!
So this Ratslayer I just stumbled across isn't going to be the best gun I own even though there was a 1/1000000 of me finding it.
Fallout 3 takes gold though because what pisses me off about NV is that the best guns arn't found in scavenger hunts, they're found by going to gun runners and buying them. Seriously, the best sniper rifle in the game isn't in the bathroom in a building in the corner of the map, it's the anti-material sniper rifle that you get off of high level legion/NCR troops. Same goes for the riot shotgun. Bullshit!
So this Ratslayer I just stumbled across isn't going to be the best gun I own even though there was a 1/1000000 of me finding it.
Fallout3 has it's own unique charm and so does NV, i liked the story of Fallout 3 more and i think it had way more interesting side-stories. (How super-mutants are created and that guy who was cloned many times etc.) Also Brotherhood of Steel was bad-ass and i liked the characters more. My buddy Fawkes and i roamed those lands for many, many hours. Plus Fallout3 had better radio songs!
But NV had better gameplay, mods for guns, nice perks, more quests and it took out those HORRIBLE copy-pasted subway sections. I was still dissapointed by the lack of super-mutants. Although Nightkin were kinda interesting, i never found out much about them though.
So in the end my vote goes for Fallout 3
But NV had better gameplay, mods for guns, nice perks, more quests and it took out those HORRIBLE copy-pasted subway sections. I was still dissapointed by the lack of super-mutants. Although Nightkin were kinda interesting, i never found out much about them though.
So in the end my vote goes for Fallout 3
New Vegas was much better written, actually fit inside the Fallout universe, and I didn't railroad you constantly. Also a much better variety of weapons (to be fair, there are quite a few Fallout 3 weapons in there).
Fallout 3 was good on it's own merits, but as a Fallout game, it's rather meh. The constant railroading on the main story detracted from my enjoyment but the exploration and atmosphere was better than New Vegas's.
I prefer New Vegas though. I really like the design of the quests, and the multiple paths you can take through them that actually make a significant difference.
Edit: Also, you aren't forced to work with the Brotherhood like you were in Fallout 3 (Who were ridiculously out of character in that game) nor any faction for that matter. I felt like my destiny was my own, rather than being forced around by a few unkillable NPC's.
Fallout 3 was good on it's own merits, but as a Fallout game, it's rather meh. The constant railroading on the main story detracted from my enjoyment but the exploration and atmosphere was better than New Vegas's.
I prefer New Vegas though. I really like the design of the quests, and the multiple paths you can take through them that actually make a significant difference.
Edit: Also, you aren't forced to work with the Brotherhood like you were in Fallout 3 (Who were ridiculously out of character in that game) nor any faction for that matter. I felt like my destiny was my own, rather than being forced around by a few unkillable NPC's.
I didn't feel that it railroaded you particularly. I probably played at least fifty hours before even approaching the main quest.AlternatePFG said:
Yes, but when you finally did play the main quest, you were forced to care about your father, forced to not kill him for abandoning your ass in the Vault, forced to the deal with those stupid kids in Little Lamplight even though the only thing your way was a plank of wood, and forced to help the brotherhood (Especially with the Broken Steel DLC). I understand Bethesda didn't want you to completely derail the storyline, but the fact that you can't do anything but what the Brotherhood/Your father tells you to until the very last choice is just infuriating.kane.malakos said:
Granted, I still think Fallout 3 is a good game, I just don't ever bother with the main quest. It falls apart when it comes to that.
New Vegas was a lot more polished. It had better mechanics across the board, but I felt it suffered in other areas for this. It may have had the iron sights and improved companion AI (and don't get me wrong, I loved these features), the story was pretty dire. For all we were promised that there were "no good or bad guys", the NCR are definitely the good guys within the context of the story (while they are more morally grey by our standards), while the Legion were definitely the evil faction.
The story got a little too convoluted for my liking, since a lot of the quests were mutually exclusive; this meant that I either had to read up on the Fallout wiki beforehand to see if I was doing myself out of a later quest or reward, or else just press on ahead and hope for the best. Even then, the story is a bit limp. In one corner, we have the NCR, whose ambitions are to control the Hoover Dam, take over the Mojave and push out the rival factions; in the other corner, we have the Legion who... oh, they want to do exactly the same thing. So do Mr House's robots. How thrilling.
The world in NV seemed a lot smaller too: for all the size of the map screen, a good portion of it is walled off by massive red cliffs. When I tried to go cross-country, I frequently found myself hitting huge invisible walls at the top of rock faces, or else being set upon by over-levelled enemies - neither of these things happened to me in Fallout 3; it's an open-world game, so why are they trying as hard as possible to fence me in?
That said, NV still had a lot more weapons, and the weapon modding feature was a pretty nice touch, but I just don't feel it measures up to F3; Fallout 3 was full of memorable set pieces, had a clear and interesting over-arching story (the same cannot really be said for the glorified series of fetch-quests in F3: Caesar would have me destroy, has an army ready to move, and yet for some reason needs me to go on a public relations crusade for him first), and is just generally fun to play.
tl;dr: Fallout 3 is a fine machine with beautiful components that work well together. New Vegas has a shiny new paint job, but the malfunctioning cogs of poor story and rampant glitches count against it in the long run. Fallout 3 wins IMO.
The story got a little too convoluted for my liking, since a lot of the quests were mutually exclusive; this meant that I either had to read up on the Fallout wiki beforehand to see if I was doing myself out of a later quest or reward, or else just press on ahead and hope for the best. Even then, the story is a bit limp. In one corner, we have the NCR, whose ambitions are to control the Hoover Dam, take over the Mojave and push out the rival factions; in the other corner, we have the Legion who... oh, they want to do exactly the same thing. So do Mr House's robots. How thrilling.
The world in NV seemed a lot smaller too: for all the size of the map screen, a good portion of it is walled off by massive red cliffs. When I tried to go cross-country, I frequently found myself hitting huge invisible walls at the top of rock faces, or else being set upon by over-levelled enemies - neither of these things happened to me in Fallout 3; it's an open-world game, so why are they trying as hard as possible to fence me in?
That said, NV still had a lot more weapons, and the weapon modding feature was a pretty nice touch, but I just don't feel it measures up to F3; Fallout 3 was full of memorable set pieces, had a clear and interesting over-arching story (the same cannot really be said for the glorified series of fetch-quests in F3: Caesar would have me destroy, has an army ready to move, and yet for some reason needs me to go on a public relations crusade for him first), and is just generally fun to play.
tl;dr: Fallout 3 is a fine machine with beautiful components that work well together. New Vegas has a shiny new paint job, but the malfunctioning cogs of poor story and rampant glitches count against it in the long run. Fallout 3 wins IMO.
I would have to disagree with you. When I first started FO3 I did use VATS quite a bit, but around halfway through the main quest I restarted the game to make a stealthy character and I also didn't use VATS with that character. Well aside from a few little bits (namely if an enemy surprised me at close range, I'd VATS for headshots) but that was pretty rare. I tried really hard to not use VATS throughout that playthrough and succeeded for the most part. I partly did that because I felt that VATS really took away from the combat. It was no longer intense when I could just pause and make headshots all day. I also didn't have to take any of the VATS related perks so I think my character was more powerful.Irridium said:
Ah yes the wonderful story of fallout 3. Remember when you could not send the radiation proof mutant(Or your robot for that matter) into the radiation filled project purity, allowing you to live. I loved that part of the writing. Simply genius.jdennison101 said: