Poll: Female babysitter charged for having sex with 14-year old boy.

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meowchef

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I actually read that the kid in this case died.

It was a terrible high-fiving accident.
 

Inuprince

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Also, as someone said earlier, boys are different from girls. The cases should be handled differently.

I mean every guy can admit, that if this happened to them at that age, with an older girl, after that you would feel like the king of the entire universe for a week.
 

Cavouku

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Totenkopf said:
Death by the blade.
Ignoring all hypocrisy and double standards, disregarding all the phoney "special circumstances",
I would like to send a clear message against child molestation.
(Yes, I've read the whole OP with edit, I still don't care. You have to be systematic here)
In this society I made up for my game, those who committed crimes punishable by death walk up a giant staircase, and up to a pedestal, stare out into the crowd gathered before them, and are then allowed to make a speech before having to fall to their death in the pit below.

...Just thought I'd mention it. I'll be on my way.
 

Xojins

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Dags90 said:
Go directly to jail[footnote]After the trial, of course[/footnote]. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200. Bonus of sex offender registry from community chest.

This is what a fourteen year old boy looks like (Not the one from this case, from another):
http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/images/2009/06/11/image5082228x.jpg

Do you honestly think 20 year olds of any sex should be fucking that?
Yea, she should definitely go to jail. If a 20-year-old guy had sex with a 14-year-old girl there wouldn't even be a discussion, everyone would say send him straight to jail.
 

SextusMaximus

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Dags90 said:
Go directly to jail[footnote]After the trial, of course[/footnote]. Do not pass Go. Do not collect $200. Bonus of sex offender registry from community chest.

This is what a fourteen year old boy looks like (Not the one from this case, from another):
http://wwwimage.cbsnews.com/images/2009/06/11/image5082228x.jpg

Do you honestly think 20 year olds of any sex should be fucking that?
Um... not all 14 year olds look like that, if I was guessing, I'd say he was about 9.

EDIT: Also, I agree she should go to jail, forgot to make that clear.
 

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EdwardOrchard said:
Remember back when there was another case of female teachers having sex with male students coming out every other week? As horrible as it was, the test for guilty or not guilty really did come down to, is she hot or not? Some sort of double standard 'Can't rape the willing' thing. Which, unfortunately, makes perfect sense to me.

If the kid really is pressing charges himself, then, well, ya, rape is rape. But from the sounds of it, it isn't the kid pressing charges.

The story just has weird all over it though, so I can't really form a proper opinion on it. However, I did vote that she should be executed. Mostly for making that stupid duckface while taking a picture of herself in front of a mirror, I mean, come on...people still do that?
This is less a case of `Can't rape the willing` and more a case of `Can't have consensual sex with minors`.

Yeah, she should be in jail.
 

Heinrich843

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What should happen:

Kid is a minor. She's 20. Some sovereign states, states or provinces, differentiate between sex with a minor and a lawful relationship when it's within a few years. (3-4 at max usually.) However, she is not and there is alcohol involved.

She should be tried under local laws.

What will happen:

Charges will be dropped or she will be "too pretty for jail" and will receive house arrest or something similar.
 

AngloDoom

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Regardless of how visually pleasing you find the girl, she had sex with a minor. Regardless of whether she used alcohol or not, she had sex with a minor. Jail or nothing - if this was anything but a pouty-faced Myspace girl then people wouldn't even think about it.

Hell, if she really is that attractive then she has the option to sleep with people her age. That makes the thing worse, if anything.
 

Nulmas

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It all depends a lot on how it happened, who started it, etc.

However, she should still be punished for providing the kid with alcohol. Or for letting him drink, if she didn't provide it.

My point is that people tend to think kids are a lot dumber and waaaaay more innocent than they actually are. On top of that, most kids who realize it become as keen as a fox.

Honestly, how many people here know stories about kids that do something wrong on purpose and then play the age card to get out of trouble?
 

Hagi

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It doesn't change the fact that children mature faster, having sex later comes due to education and social background.
You already said that, yet you give no explanation whatsoever.

Neurological research on developing brains is showing again and again that our brains keep adapting, growing and maturing long after our teens.

It's showing that our brains are capable of dynamically adapting and expanding to meet new demands and experiences, though of course at a limited rate.

This means that in our current society (at least in most of the first world) where we're moving away from physical labor and into social and intellectual work our brains actually require more growth and development as the demands we place on them increase.

But because this development can only happen at a limited rate it takes longer to fully mature.

Now I'll assume you're referring to the fact that over the past century puberty has started earlier and earlier. I'd like to remind you that having functional genitals does not equal maturity. I'd also like to remind you that it isn't certain that this is caused by healthier food but is possibly caused by increased chemicals in our food and obesity and that in females it increases the risks of breast cancer and as such is not a natural and healthy development in any way or form.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article7148975.ece

to give you a few quotes:

"Scientists warn that such young girls are ill-equipped to cope with sexual development when they are still at primary school."

"If girls mature early, they run into teenage problems at an early age and they?re more prone to diseases later on. We should be worried about this regardless of what we think the underlying reasons might be. It?s a clear sign that something is affecting our children, whether it?s junk food, environmental chemicals or lack of physical activity."

"Hitting puberty early can mean longer exposure to oestrogen, which is a factor in breast cancer. There is also a greater risk of heart disease."
 

Fox334

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Would be having this discussion if the 'sitter was a guy or not attractive? The law is crystal clear, what she did is rape no matter what the boy thought. People usually don't have this much sympathy for child molesters (that's what she is, no matter how much you wish you could do her) -_-
 

floppylobster

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Wait, you're saying she paid for the alcohol as well?! It's my dream date. I'm not even joking. There are plenty of countries in the world where this would be perfectly legal.

Life is short. He'll remember this until the day he dies. Now that's living.
 

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I don't think a 20-year-old woman with a 14-year-old boy is wrong. I think getting someone drunk in order to sleep with him is wrong.

Anyway, let the boy decide whether he regrets it and thus whether she should be punished.
 

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Nunny said:
Depends, if the genders were reversed would you think the same thing?
Ofcourse not, but that's not the issue.

Boys and girls are different.
We are all sexist at heart.

And really I know more than one 19 year old guy in a sexual relationship with a 14 year old.
The difference is almost invisible in appearance and mind.

In short, this should not be a crime at all.
 

bakan

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Hagi said:
bakan said:
It doesn't change the fact that children mature faster, having sex later comes due to education and social background.
You already said that, yet you give no explanation whatsoever.

Neurological research on developing brains is showing again and again that our brains keep adapting, growing and maturing long after our teens.

It's showing that our brains are capable of dynamically adapting and expanding to meet new demands and experiences, though of course at a limited rate.

This means that in our current society (at least in most of the first world) where we're moving away from physical labor and into social and intellectual work our brains actually require more growth and development as the demands we place on them increase.

But because this development can only happen at a limited rate it takes longer to fully mature.

Now I'll assume you're referring to the fact that over the past century puberty has started earlier and earlier. I'd like to remind you that having functional genitals does not equal maturity. I'd also like to remind you that it isn't certain that this is caused by healthier food but is possibly caused by increased chemicals in our food and obesity and that in females it increases the risks of breast cancer and as such is not a natural and healthy development in any way or form.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/health/article7148975.ece

to give you a few quotes:

"Scientists warn that such young girls are ill-equipped to cope with sexual development when they are still at primary school."

"If girls mature early, they run into teenage problems at an early age and they?re more prone to diseases later on. We should be worried about this regardless of what we think the underlying reasons might be. It?s a clear sign that something is affecting our children, whether it?s junk food, environmental chemicals or lack of physical activity."

"Hitting puberty early can mean longer exposure to oestrogen, which is a factor in breast cancer. There is also a greater risk of heart disease."
You talk about the adapting brain which is totally fine, and then you post an article about puberty with the age of 9 which is a problem I know of, because my sister had to take hormones to postpone puberty.
It still doesn't change that kids this day are able to cope with sex at a regular basis at the age of 14/15 (due to physical and mental development at a younger age) and that is the legal age in several countries, some countries just didn't adapt yet.
And I stay by it, if it was consensual like it seems to be because they were in a relationship for several month there shouldn't be a problem.
I am not talking about a thirty year old doing it with 12 year old.
Both are teenagers in this case with a 5 year difference.
 

Nunny

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rokkolpo said:
Nunny said:
Depends, if the genders were reversed would you think the same thing?
Ofcourse not, but that's not the issue.

Boys and girls are different.
We are all sexist at heart.

And really I know more than one 19 year old guy in a sexual relationship with a 14 year old.
The difference is almost invisible in appearance and mind.

In short, this should not be a crime at all.
As long as this isnt a crime no matter if it is a male or female then thats fine, if its a crime only if its a male while a female it shouldnt then something is wrong.
 

Kargathia

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A lot is probably going to depend on the testimony of the 14 year old, but statutory rape is pretty much the least she's looking at. It'd be pretty sexist to excuse her just because she's a decent looking girl.

But that's just laws talking here really. My personal opinion would be to first take a check how consensual this whole thing is. It's a bit on the weird side, but that doesn't mean we should automatically assume we know better than them.

Which brings me to another point: as soon as the guy gets drunk everyone jumps to the conclusion she not only provided the alcohol, but also wilfully intoxicated him? Last time I checked I was pretty sure that 14 year olds not only can get their hands on alcohol, but with an alarming regularity also get themselves pissed on it - without any outside encouragement.

And right now my conscience requires me to report that I'm pretty sure that when I was 14 I'd consider this a pretty damn good night. Not including the police bit, of course.