Poll: Firearms F.A.Q. IRL Edition (read first post if you are entering thread for the first time)

[Pyro Paul]

EDIT: the Musket pistol must be identified by the action
EDIT: upon further inspection the first one is actually incredibly difficult. there is one telltale sign however.

FUN TRIVIA TIME
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First person to label these correctly wins an INTERNET and some cake as well
specifics are needed as in specific model and variant information, and if no one gets 100% i will take the top score. The contest ends on Sunday the 13th at 9:00 PM eastern.

well i'm bored so i'll try this

top row: AK-47 type 2. HK G36K. FN F2000. M16a2/a3 (both have an identical siloette). Styre Aug-P
second row: HK MP5SD3, FAMAS-F1, XM8 Carbine varient, L85A2+SUSAT, SCAR-L Mk. 16 Std.
third row: Dragunov SVD, Barret M107, Remington 870 Express, Lewis Gun; light infantry varient, SMLE no. 1 mk III.
fourth row: 1825 Italian Percussion Pistol (my local gun store has one of these), P90 USG, IMI Micro Uzi, HK G36E, M61 hand grenade.
fifth row: M92 Beretta, USP Tactical, orginal Five-seveN pistol, Mk. XIX Desert Eagle, Glock 18c


in all honosty, asking for specific varients of the weapons is kinda outlandish of a request. the diffrences between some weapons variations are not exactly shown in a siloette, like the diffrences between the M16a2 and M16a3 or the M26 hand grenade compared to the M61, or better still, the AK47 which has so many clones and reitterations which all look identical.



but i will laugh if you say the AK47 is incorrect, rather it is an AKM, because the only way you can tell an AKM apart from a type 2 AK47 is the material it is made out of and process it was made by...

 

[Stickyreiss]

Oh no, I won't be getting any sleep tonight, I'll go crazy.

1st row: Type 56? It's not an AK-47. HK G36K "short" (Kurz). FN F2000 with telescopic sight. M16A3. AUG M1 carbine.
2nd row: MM5 SDA3. FAMAS F1, XM8 basic infantry configuration. SA80 A2 L85 with SUSAT sight. SCAR, standard.
3rg row: SVD. Barrett M82A1. Remington 870(I don't know squat about shotguns) Lewis Light machine gun. Lee-Enfield, probably SMLE No.1 Mk.3.
4th row: A flintlock one shot pistol. FN P90. Micro UZI. HK G36 Export. F1 infantry hand grenade.
5th row: Beretta 92FS Inox. HK Mk.23 mod.0. FN Five-seveN. Desert Eagle Mark XIX. Cloc 17.

NEW HIGH SCORE 15/25, 60%

 

[Stickyreiss]

... and God, I fucking hate guns.
I can understand why people like them: they are designed so they look good, they're manly, and owning one gives you some sense of safety and power.
But then again, they're all for the same purpose: to kill. Usually another human. Which means that whatever fucking argument you try to bring, is pointless and a waste of time. Don't even try.

you are perfectly entitled to believe this. While I may not agree with what you say, I will defend to the death your right to say it.

 

[Stickyreiss]

I am a fellow firearms enthusiast and/or expert. I just think that videogames portray guns in such a terrible way that it's funny. Call of Duty is the worst offender, putting a silencer on anything that fires projectiles, guns with no recoil, and shotguns with a 20 foot range. And I can personally guarentee you, if you get hit ANYWHERE with a sniper firing .50 BMG, you will not be one piece anymore. And you can't just fire that thing from your shoulder with no recoil. Same with the Desert Eagle. A pistol firing .50 Action Express doesn't make for an accurate high rate of fire.

But whatever, Call of Duty. You can stick with your auto-turrets and heart beat monitors.

check this out

Spoiler

image isn't mine, made the motivator though

Haha, I like. Awesome motivator.

exactly, If i take a shot at you from 20 m with a shotgun, you're fucked, if i wanted realism, i'd play ArmA 2 : ACE mod

 

[Stickyreiss]

Hmm, so if there were battles that theoretically took place in space, full vacuum with no planetary gravity well to speak of, wouldn't the idea of a sniper rifle become little more than a gun that just shoots bigger bullets, since aside from the accuracy of a gun, theoretically any rifle or even a pistol (yeah right) could have huge firing distance..?

Yes, the bullets would travel pretty much forever with no significant deviation in velocity. The problem is that you still have to hit whatever you're aiming at, so a sniper rifle with a scope would still be more accurate for the same reason it's more accurate on Earth, because you can see what you're aiming at better. On the other hand, in space, pretty much any hit would be fatal. The blood from wounds would be literally sucked out along with the air from the suit. So unless the person got a suit patch on in seconds, he would be dead.

Hmm, I'd never thought of that bit before...
So technically speaking, going bat-shit crazy with a shotgun at what would, on earth, be obviously out of range while in space would be a viable tactic, as the spread makes it pretty likely to at least scratch the person's suit...
Wow, remind me to never get in a firefight in space.

a 12 ga. (or any gun for that matter) would throw you back, in free space, you would keep going til you hit something/shot in another direction. on the moon, it'd be like hollywood "i got shot, *whizes backwards through the air*"

Without an atmosphere to evenly spread heat, the guns would freeze and sieze up when not in direct sunlight, and they would overheat and seize up when in direct sunlight. A space firefight wouldn't last more than a few seconds before it became a space fistfight.

if it was hot enough to melt your gun in the day, you'd be a big 'ol baked potato person in your suit, and freezing requires moisture, in a vacuum, moisture boils away=no freezing
for example, if we found rabbit people on the moon, the following would occur
AMERICA, FUCK YEAH, COMING AGAIN TO SAVE THE MOTHER FUCKING DAY YEAH, AMERICA, FUCK YEAH, FREEDOM IS THE ONLY WAY YEAH

 

[Stickyreiss]

well i'm bored so i'll try this

top row: AK-47 type 2. HK G36K. FN F2000. M16a2/a3 (both have an identical siloette). Styre Aug-P
second row: HK MP5SD3, FAMAS-F1, XM8 Carbine varient, L85A2+SUSAT, SCAR-L Mk. 16 Std.
third row: Dragunov SVD, Barret M107, Remington 870 Express, Lewis Gun; light infantry varient, SMLE no. 1 mk III.
fourth row: 1825 Italian Percussion Pistol (my local gun store has one of these), P90 USG, IMI Micro Uzi, HK G36E, M61 hand grenade.
fifth row: M92 Beretta, USP Tactical, orginal Five-seveN pistol, Mk. XIX Desert Eagle, Glock 18c


in all honosty, asking for specific varients of the weapons is kinda outlandish of a request. the diffrences between some weapons variations are not exactly shown in a siloette, like the diffrences between the M16a2 and M16a3 or the M26 hand grenade compared to the M61, or better still, the AK47 which has so many clones and reitterations which all look identical.



but i will laugh if you say the AK47 is incorrect, rather it is an AKM, because the only way you can tell an AKM apart from a type 2 AK47 is the material it is made out of and process it was made by...

14/25, 56% tied in second
and when the iterations of something are visually identical, I accept all correct answers, one weapon on the list has 3 options

 

[zen5887]

Mehh..

I don't really get the thing with guns. A few of my friends have their gun licences (I'm in Australia) but I've never seen the appeal. I find movie and videogame guns much more exciting anyway.

Reguarding the law and all that stuff. I think Australia has a pretty good system, but the South Koreans have it right - No guns at all!

 

[Spitfire175]

Oh no, I won't be getting any sleep tonight, I'll go crazy.

1st row: Type 56? It's not an AK-47. HK G36K "short" (Kurz). FN F2000 with telescopic sight. M16A3. AUG M1 carbine.
2nd row: MM5 SDA3. FAMAS F1, XM8 basic infantry configuration. SA80 A2 L85 with SUSAT sight. SCAR, standard.
3rg row: SVD. Barrett M82A1. Remington 870(I don't know squat about shotguns) Lewis Light machine gun. Lee-Enfield, probably SMLE No.1 Mk.3.
4th row: A flintlock one shot pistol. FN P90. Micro UZI. HK G36 Export. F1 infantry hand grenade.
5th row: Beretta 92FS Inox. HK Mk.23 mod.0. FN Five-seveN. Desert Eagle Mark XIX. Cloc 17.

NEW HIGH SCORE 15/25, 60%

HAhahahahahah

And I thought I was going to fail completely, I'm rubbish at recognising guns.

Send a message to me with the correct answers, I won't bother with torturing myself with this anymore. [small]I won't post them.[/small]

 

[KaiRai]

snippedy snip snip

OT: Ever seen a bolt action shotgun? We just got one, a very interesting piece of work.

Can you post pictures of that? You have seriously aroused my curiosity.

OT: Just wondering if you have any notes on gun smithing in other countries? I won't be surprised if you don't, but since I don't really know where to look, any info on gun smithing in the UK would be mucho appreciato.

I'm looking to try and get into it. Seems like it would be a fun, versatile career.

 

[Stickyreiss]

snippedy snip snip

OT: Ever seen a bolt action shotgun? We just got one, a very interesting piece of work.

Can you post pictures of that? You have seriously aroused my curiosity.

OT: Just wondering if you have any notes on gun smithing in other countries? I won't be surprised if you don't, but since I don't really know where to look, any info on gun smithing in the UK would be mucho appreciato.

I'm looking to try and get into it. Seems like it would be a fun, versatile career.

i just read books about it, no forge here

 

[Phototoxin]

Dangerous Hobby?

What the fuck are those people smoking?

AHA! But can you do it at range, sir?

Why do people on the internet like to derail threads about firearms with dickwaving about gun control?

Why do people on the internet like to measurbate how much they know bout guns? their only function is to kill people, make holes in things and start fires.

I can do all that with an electric drill.

keep this shit outta my thread
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Issues much? Just coz ya create a thread dont mean ya own it. Besides why do you feel the need to measurbate about guns? How many guns have you actually used, fired? Then in self defence situations? Life and the ability to end life isn't something to dick about with.

also FAO " I won't be surprised if you don't, but since I don't really know where to look, any info on gun smithing in the UK would be mucho appreciato" its illegal to make your own. Same with swords and stuff. your making offensive weapons firearms much more offensive. A few years ago you'd have done good business back home over the border.

 

[Starke]

What is with the love affair some people seem to have with the L86? Particularly people who've never handled them.

I remember on the forums for STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl there was someone who was espousing the greatness of the L86, and how his had an effective range of a klick, and he promptly got torn into for a number of issues (the effective range is the only one I know of off hand.)

All I've ever heard from people who I trust when they claim they've had actual experience with the rifles has been pretty negative though.

So, what gives?

EDIT: What took people so long to identify the five-seven, it looks nothing like a SIG P226

 

[Stickyreiss]

What is with the love affair some people seem to have with the L86? Particularly people who've never handled them.

I remember on the forums for STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl there was someone who was espousing the greatness of the L86, and how his had an effective range of a klick, and he promptly got torn into for a number of issues (the effective range is the only one I know of off hand.)

All I've ever heard from people who I trust when they claim they've had actual experience with the rifles has been pretty negative though.

So, what gives?

CODfags

 

[Starke]

What is with the love affair some people seem to have with the L86? Particularly people who've never handled them.

I remember on the forums for STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl there was someone who was espousing the greatness of the L86, and how his had an effective range of a klick, and he promptly got torn into for a number of issues (the effective range is the only one I know of off hand.)

All I've ever heard from people who I trust when they claim they've had actual experience with the rifles has been pretty negative though.

So, what gives?

CODfags

I thought it was shit in Modern Warfare too...

Fun fact, it's actually the worst 5.56mm rifle in STALKER, loosing out to an M4 knockoff, a SIG550, and the FN2000.

EDIT: I think Clear Sky lets you convert an AK74-SU to 556, but still...

 

[Stickyreiss]

What is with the love affair some people seem to have with the L86? Particularly people who've never handled them.

I remember on the forums for STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl there was someone who was espousing the greatness of the L86, and how his had an effective range of a klick, and he promptly got torn into for a number of issues (the effective range is the only one I know of off hand.)

All I've ever heard from people who I trust when they claim they've had actual experience with the rifles has been pretty negative though.

So, what gives?

CODfags

I thought it was shit in Modern Warfare too...

Fun fact, it's actually the worst 5.56mm rifle in STALKER, loosing out to an M4 knockoff, a SIG550, and the FN2000.

EDIT: I think Clear Sky lets you convert an AK74-SU to 556, but still...

i don't mean people who liked it in COD, i mean the kind of people who think MW2 is the best game ever made

 

[BonsaiK]

Nothing in this thread really interests me much, guns are kind of fun to shoot but I find the incredible fascination some people have with them a little on the creepy side. However there's one burning question that I must have answered:

Is there any gun powerful enough to shoot a projectile fast/high enough that it goes into orbit? If not, do you think this would be feasible? I always used to wonder about that as a kid, that maybe there were bullets up there, and that every time the Space Shuttle had a technical problem while giving satellites a new paintjob or whatever, it was because a stray floating bullet hit it.

It also occurs to me that if we could condense sattelite technology into a bullet-sized item and fire it into space we could save a lot of money and fuel (and carbons) on rocket launching.

 

[Starke]

What is with the love affair some people seem to have with the L86? Particularly people who've never handled them.

I remember on the forums for STALKER Shadow of Chernobyl there was someone who was espousing the greatness of the L86, and how his had an effective range of a klick, and he promptly got torn into for a number of issues (the effective range is the only one I know of off hand.)

All I've ever heard from people who I trust when they claim they've had actual experience with the rifles has been pretty negative though.

So, what gives?

CODfags

I thought it was shit in Modern Warfare too...

Fun fact, it's actually the worst 5.56mm rifle in STALKER, loosing out to an M4 knockoff, a SIG550, and the FN2000.

EDIT: I think Clear Sky lets you convert an AK74-SU to 556, but still...

i don't mean people who liked it in COD, i mean the kind of people who think MW2 is the best game ever made

Mybad. The STALKER forums and the Operation Flashpoint boards were particularly rampant with "ex-spec ops guys" who had no idea what the fuck they were talking about.

An unrelated question I edited in earlier, on the sillouettes how the hell does a five-seven look like a SIG? (I'll admit it's been a while, and I wasn't sure if it was a five-seven or a CZ75, but a SIG!?)

 

[Starke]

Nothing in this thread really interests me much, guns are kind of fun to shoot but I find the incredible fascination some people have with them a little on the creepy side. However there's one burning question that I must have answered:

Is there any gun powerful enough to shoot a projectile fast/high enough that it goes into orbit? If not, do you think this would be feasible? I always used to wonder about that as a kid, that maybe there were bullets up there, and that every time the Space Shuttle had a technical problem while giving satellites a new paintjob or whatever, it was because a stray floating bullet hit it.

It also occurs to me that if we could condense sattelite technology into a bullet-sized item and fire it into space we could save a lot of money and fuel (and carbons) on rocket launching.

You'd need to accellerate the round to escape velocity. The easiest way to do that would be self propelled... oh wait...

Yeah, the apollo program could best be discribed as sending manned bullets into space. And an early silent film dipicted space travel via cannon.

IIRC Mass Driver technology has been kicked around as one means to make transporting manufacturing components into space quickly. IE, it gets shot into space by a big gauss gun.

As for actually shooting into space? You'd need pretty horrific speed, and preferably some way to negate friction.

 

[hittite]

Nothing in this thread really interests me much, guns are kind of fun to shoot but I find the incredible fascination some people have with them a little on the creepy side. However there's one burning question that I must have answered:

Is there any gun powerful enough to shoot a projectile fast/high enough that it goes into orbit? If not, do you think this would be feasible? I always used to wonder about that as a kid, that maybe there were bullets up there, and that every time the Space Shuttle had a technical problem while giving satellites a new paintjob or whatever, it was because a stray floating bullet hit it.

It also occurs to me that if we could condense sattelite technology into a bullet-sized item and fire it into space we could save a lot of money and fuel (and carbons) on rocket launching.

Interesting fact: the first man-made object in space was a manhole cover. You see, back when they were first trying out the idea of underground nuclear testing, they made a large chamber with a small exhaust tunnel leading to the surface over which they placed a manhole cover. basically, it was the world's largest, nuclear powered potato cannon. Based off of high speed camera footage that shows the cover in one frame, and just gone in the next, they were able to calculate that it was going well in excess of escape velocity. It also proved that underground nuclear testing was a viable option.