Poll: Flood (Halo), Replicators (Stargate), or the Borg (Star Trek)?

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-Seraph-

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Simriel said:
The replicators in SG1, the Bug form, where created by an advanced A.I! There are in fact two completely separate kinds of replicators. The 'Bug' form created by an advanced A.I as 'Toys' that got out of hand, and the human form replicators built by the ancients for war against the wraith.
I corrected myself later on in the thread, Had a brain fart, it happens. I am one of the last people to need correction when it comes to stargate knowledge.
 

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-Seraph- said:
Simriel said:
The replicators in SG1, the Bug form, where created by an advanced A.I! There are in fact two completely separate kinds of replicators. The 'Bug' form created by an advanced A.I as 'Toys' that got out of hand, and the human form replicators built by the ancients for war against the wraith.
I corrected myself later on in the thread, Had a brain fart, it happens. I am one of the last people to need correction when it comes to stargate knowledge.
At least you know enough about them. My Stargate info is so dated it hurts. And I barely know the Flood.

Maybe one day we can get a Combine vs someone.
 

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Eldritch Warlord said:
Signa said:
Still, the only reason that the replicators were defeated at all was because the humans borrowed ancient technology. The same tech could probably be used on the flood to eradicate it.
The Flood was only temporarily stopped by the Forerunners committing a galaxy wide genocide/suicide, leaving them without food. The Flood survived without food for tens of thousands of years.

The Replicators were whipped out by briefly disrupting the connections between their cells. A single Flood cell can spawn a horde that would consume the universe.

My overly dramatic two cents.
Well... The only reason the Forerunners committed suicide was because they had no other choice. The AI or "monitor" in charge of the Shield worlds betrayed them for the Flood and kept them out of the Shield worlds. That's why they all died when they fired the Halos. And the only reason the Flood returned as quickly as they did was because the Covenant accidentally released them from their containment cells before the Battle of Installation 04. The Forerunner Monitor 343 Guilty Spark had been studying the flood by keeping them in stasis ever since the firing of the Halos. So without the Covenant, the Flood might not have come back at all. But I highly doubt either the Stargate or the Star Trek universes have the resources to build a superweapon or a series of superweapons that can wipe out all life in the galaxy, and then develop shield worlds large enough to keep large portions of all the major civilizations alive during the event.
 

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But I highly doubt either the Stargate or the Star Trek universes have the resources to build a superweapon or a series of superweapons that can wipe out all life in the galaxy
Stargate had the ancient device on Dakara (sic). Anubis himself tried to use it to destroy the galaxy, but was stopper. Then it was configured to specifically wipe out the replicators. Pretty much the power of a halo but WAY smaller. You got me on the shield world part though.
 

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oliveira8 said:
Eipok Kruden said:
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You forgot to include the Necromorph from Dead Space. In a fight between all four species, the Necromorph would most certainly win for several reasons.

1.) Unlike the Flood, it can infect life forms of any size.
2.) It is very intellegent, capable of formulating attack routes and strategies.
3.) Many of its infected forms also are capable of ranged attacks, making them lethal from any distance.
4.) It is capable of rapidly changing the environment--this includes everything from making floors sticky & slowing down its opponents to changing the air into poison.
5.) It has Leviathans.
6.) It can "play dead" for long periods of time, then reanimate and attack without warning.
7.) Some of its infected forms are invulnerable to all conventional weaponry.
8.) Some infected forms release hordes of tiny crawlers which latch onto an enemy en masse, quickly wearing down its defenses and killing it.
9.) It can adapt its infected forms to suit its exact needs.
10.) It uses psychological warfare to wear down its opponents before it kills them.

So yeah, the Necromorph would win.
Damn it... You guys beat me to it.
You could have left it. ^^
I'm gonna point out that the replicators, the Ancient tech ones, have a fleet. A fleet more powerful than anything any other side has. Also, A FUCKING GIANT FLYING CITY!
 

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-Seraph- said:
Eipok Kruden said:
But I highly doubt either the Stargate or the Star Trek universes have the resources to build a superweapon or a series of superweapons that can wipe out all life in the galaxy
Stargate had the ancient device on Dakara (sic). Anubis himself tried to use it to destroy the galaxy, but was stopper. Then it was configured to specifically wipe out the replicators. Pretty much the power of a halo but WAY smaller. You got me on the shield world part though.
Exactly. They could just reconfigure it to wipe out all organic life, but then they'd have to find some way to escape the blast, which would be impossible since they wouldn't be able to use the gate system as they fire it since every gate would have to be open for it to work, which means they'd have to create some kind of new gate or something. Not only that, but they'd have to find a way to get the wave from the weapon to get through the Atlantis gate and then use the Atlantis gate to send the wave through the entire galaxy that Atlantis is in. I don't know how they'd be able to get the wave to cover every inch of both galaxies or get all the people of both galaxies (except for the Wraith, of course) to safety. Let alone both at once.

oliveira8 said:
-Seraph- said:
Simriel said:
The replicators in SG1, the Bug form, where created by an advanced A.I! There are in fact two completely separate kinds of replicators. The 'Bug' form created by an advanced A.I as 'Toys' that got out of hand, and the human form replicators built by the ancients for war against the wraith.
I corrected myself later on in the thread, Had a brain fart, it happens. I am one of the last people to need correction when it comes to stargate knowledge.
At least you know enough about them. My Stargate info is so dated it hurts. And I barely know the Flood.

Maybe one day we can get a Combine vs someone.
Read through these threads if you want to learn more about the Halo universe:http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.88926?page=1 & http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.87763?page=1
 

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The Borg would assimilate the Flood or more specifically become immune to the spores after one or two infections and then assimilate them, then the Replicators would assimilate the Borg.
I never said the Flood would infect the Borg. Because they wouldn't. They'd infect EVERYTHING else other than the Borg and then they'd attack the Borg or strike a treaty with the Borg. The Borg have made one treaty before. If the Borg realize they'll never defeat the Flood and the Flood will never defeat them, which I'm sure they will since they're pretty smart, they would want to stop the war so they could go about their business.
I don't think that it is possible to make a treaty with the flood because, except for the gravemind, all of the flood are pretty much mindless parisites.
 

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-Seraph- said:
Simriel said:
The replicators in SG1, the Bug form, where created by an advanced A.I! There are in fact two completely separate kinds of replicators. The 'Bug' form created by an advanced A.I as 'Toys' that got out of hand, and the human form replicators built by the ancients for war against the wraith.
I corrected myself later on in the thread, Had a brain fart, it happens. I am one of the last people to need correction when it comes to stargate knowledge.
My apologies. Any info on 'Stargate Universe' yet? Sounds a bit like a star Trek rip off to be honest.
 

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Vromnir said:
Eipok Kruden said:
Deadarm said:
The Borg would assimilate the Flood or more specifically become immune to the spores after one or two infections and then assimilate them, then the Replicators would assimilate the Borg.
I never said the Flood would infect the Borg. Because they wouldn't. They'd infect EVERYTHING else other than the Borg and then they'd attack the Borg or strike a treaty with the Borg. The Borg have made one treaty before. If the Borg realize they'll never defeat the Flood and the Flood will never defeat them, which I'm sure they will since they're pretty smart, they would want to stop the war so they could go about their business.
I don't think that it is possible to make a treaty with the flood because, except for the gravemind, all of the flood are pretty much mindless parisites.
You just said except for the Gravemind. Remember the second to last level in Halo 3 where the Flood become your allies to help you kill the Prophet of Truth and stop him from firing the rings? The Gravemind controls the Flood. If forming a treaty is in the best interests of the Flood, he'll form a treaty.

Simriel said:
-Seraph- said:
Simriel said:
The replicators in SG1, the Bug form, where created by an advanced A.I! There are in fact two completely separate kinds of replicators. The 'Bug' form created by an advanced A.I as 'Toys' that got out of hand, and the human form replicators built by the ancients for war against the wraith.
I corrected myself later on in the thread, Had a brain fart, it happens. I am one of the last people to need correction when it comes to stargate knowledge.
My apologies. Any info on 'Stargate Universe' yet? Sounds a bit like a star Trek rip off to be honest.
It does sound like a Star Trek ripoff, except it's in the Stargate universe so it's automatically better. It has way less soft sci-fi and it's just plain awesome.
 

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To give my two cents. Borg would win. Borg be awesome. Borg be quite simply, The Borg.
 

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Simriel said:
-Seraph- said:
Simriel said:
The replicators in SG1, the Bug form, where created by an advanced A.I! There are in fact two completely separate kinds of replicators. The 'Bug' form created by an advanced A.I as 'Toys' that got out of hand, and the human form replicators built by the ancients for war against the wraith.
I corrected myself later on in the thread, Had a brain fart, it happens. I am one of the last people to need correction when it comes to stargate knowledge.
My apologies. Any info on 'Stargate Universe' yet? Sounds a bit like a star Trek rip off to be honest.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Universe

Enjoy

It's not much of a star trek ripoff. It's very lost in spacey, but stargate can ripoff star trek and no one would care because stargate has a far more interesting and visceral universe than treks rather monotonous universe.
 

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Eipok Kruden said:
oliveira8 said:
-Seraph- said:
Simriel said:
The replicators in SG1, the Bug form, where created by an advanced A.I! There are in fact two completely separate kinds of replicators. The 'Bug' form created by an advanced A.I as 'Toys' that got out of hand, and the human form replicators built by the ancients for war against the wraith.
I corrected myself later on in the thread, Had a brain fart, it happens. I am one of the last people to need correction when it comes to stargate knowledge.
At least you know enough about them. My Stargate info is so dated it hurts. And I barely know the Flood.

Maybe one day we can get a Combine vs someone.
Read through these threads if you want to learn more about the Halo universe:http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.88926?page=1 & http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.87763?page=1
I will when I have the time and the patience. When I played Halo 1 I didnt really think much of it. The gameplay was right but everything felt mediocre and ended not paying attencion to the story, or what exactly was going on.
 

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Eldritch Warlord said:
Signa said:
Still, the only reason that the replicators were defeated at all was because the humans borrowed ancient technology. The same tech could probably be used on the flood to eradicate it.
The Flood was only temporarily stopped by the Forerunners committing a galaxy wide genocide/suicide, leaving them without food. The Flood survived without food for tens of thousands of years.

The Replicators were whipped out by briefly disrupting the connections between their cells. A single Flood cell can spawn a horde that would consume the universe.

My overly dramatic two cents.
Granted, cellular disruption wouldn't have any effect on the flood for that reason, but the tech used to kill the replicators wasn't only designed to do that. As it was said before, the device could have been used to wipe out any particular (or all) life in the galaxy. The flood WOULD be defeated just as easily.

I would also like to point out that, from my understanding, there were 3 types of replicators. Two were identical, but the ancient humanshape replicators were completely independent from the "toys" that evolved. I never finished Atlantis, but presumably, they were different.
 

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Simriel said:
To give my two cents. Borg would win. Borg be awesome. Borg be quite simply, The Borg.
We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.
 

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Eipok Kruden said:
Eldritch Warlord said:
Signa said:
Still, the only reason that the replicators were defeated at all was because the humans borrowed ancient technology. The same tech could probably be used on the flood to eradicate it.
The Flood was only temporarily stopped by the Forerunners committing a galaxy wide genocide/suicide, leaving them without food. The Flood survived without food for tens of thousands of years.

The Replicators were whipped out by briefly disrupting the connections between their cells. A single Flood cell can spawn a horde that would consume the universe.

My overly dramatic two cents.
Well... The only reason the Forerunners committed suicide was because they had no other choice. The AI or "monitor" in charge of the Shield worlds betrayed them for the Flood and kept them out of the Shield worlds. That's why they all died when they fired the Halos. And the only reason the Flood returned as quickly as they did was because the Covenant accidentally released them from their containment cells before the Battle of Installation 04. The Forerunner Monitor 343 Guilty Spark had been studying the flood by keeping them in stasis ever since the firing of the Halos. So without the Covenant, the Flood might not have come back at all. But I highly doubt either the Stargate or the Star Trek universes have the resources to build a superweapon or a series of superweapons that can wipe out all life in the galaxy, and then develop shield worlds large enough to keep large portions of all the major civilizations alive during the event.
Offensive Bias was actually in charge of a fleet meant to kill the Gravemind (or at least hurt him and make all the other Flood stop their expansion and go protect him). And I don't think there's any explanation ever given as to why the Forerunners didn't rebuild out of the Shield Worlds after the Halo Array was fired (maybe they were all abandoned when the Forerunners made the Maginot Line and never were used to keep attention away from the Halos, maybe the shield worlds simply didn't work). Also the Flood on 05 seem to have broken out on their own thanks to Penitent Tangent's lax containment protocols.

Stargate's Great Alliance might have been able to do as the Forerunners did. The Ancients did build that Dakara Superweapon.
 

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-Seraph- said:
Simriel said:
-Seraph- said:
Simriel said:
The replicators in SG1, the Bug form, where created by an advanced A.I! There are in fact two completely separate kinds of replicators. The 'Bug' form created by an advanced A.I as 'Toys' that got out of hand, and the human form replicators built by the ancients for war against the wraith.
I corrected myself later on in the thread, Had a brain fart, it happens. I am one of the last people to need correction when it comes to stargate knowledge.
My apologies. Any info on 'Stargate Universe' yet? Sounds a bit like a star Trek rip off to be honest.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stargate_Universe

Enjoy

It's not much of a star trek ripoff. It's very lost in spacey, but stargate can ripoff star trek and no one would care because stargate has a far more interesting and visceral universe than treks rather monotonous universe.
I happen to enjoy both the Stargate and Star Trek Universes equally. Also i meant info other than what every stargate fan already knows.
 

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Signa said:
Eldritch Warlord said:
Signa said:
Still, the only reason that the replicators were defeated at all was because the humans borrowed ancient technology. The same tech could probably be used on the flood to eradicate it.
The Flood was only temporarily stopped by the Forerunners committing a galaxy wide genocide/suicide, leaving them without food. The Flood survived without food for tens of thousands of years.

The Replicators were whipped out by briefly disrupting the connections between their cells. A single Flood cell can spawn a horde that would consume the universe.

My overly dramatic two cents.
Granted, cellular disruption wouldn't have any effect on the flood for that reason, but the tech used to kill the replicators wasn't only designed to do that. As it was said before, the device could have been used to wipe out any particular (or all) life in the galaxy. The flood WOULD be defeated just as easily.

I would also like to point out that, from my understanding, there were 3 types of replicators. Two were identical, but the ancient humanshape replicators were completely independent from the "toys" that evolved. I never finished Atlantis, but presumably, they were different.
The Flood are organic life, just like all other life in the universe. There's no way to only target the Flood. The Halos wiped out all life in the galaxy except for the Flood because their spores remained, but with just their spores, they were unable to build up sufficient biomass and eventually died off except for a few spores floating in the depths of space and the flood in stasis on the Halos.
 

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Eipok Kruden said:
Simriel said:
To give my two cents. Borg would win. Borg be awesome. Borg be quite simply, The Borg.
We are the Borg. Lower your shields and surrender your ships. We will add your biological and technological distinctiveness to our own. Your culture will adapt to service us. Resistance is futile.
RAMMING SPEED!
 

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Eipok Kruden said:
Eldritch Warlord said:
Signa said:
Still, the only reason that the replicators were defeated at all was because the humans borrowed ancient technology. The same tech could probably be used on the flood to eradicate it.
The Flood was only temporarily stopped by the Forerunners committing a galaxy wide genocide/suicide, leaving them without food. The Flood survived without food for tens of thousands of years.

The Replicators were whipped out by briefly disrupting the connections between their cells. A single Flood cell can spawn a horde that would consume the universe.

My overly dramatic two cents.
Well... The only reason the Forerunners committed suicide was because they had no other choice. The AI or "monitor" in charge of the Shield worlds betrayed them for the Flood and kept them out of the Shield worlds. That's why they all died when they fired the Halos. And the only reason the Flood returned as quickly as they did was because the Covenant accidentally released them from their containment cells before the Battle of Installation 04. The Forerunner Monitor 343 Guilty Spark had been studying the flood by keeping them in stasis ever since the firing of the Halos. So without the Covenant, the Flood might not have come back at all. But I highly doubt either the Stargate or the Star Trek universes have the resources to build a superweapon or a series of superweapons that can wipe out all life in the galaxy, and then develop shield worlds large enough to keep large portions of all the major civilizations alive during the event.
Just to be safe, lets just blame the covenant for the local flood infestation.
 

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Countless worlds have been taken by the combined forces of the Replicator/Flood entity. Humanity lay scattered across the cosmos, finding themselves allied with Goa'uld and Covenant forces alike. They fled to a single solitary planet, the Replicator/Flood forces close on their heels. And suddenly, all was silence.

The Replicator/Flood forces searched the planet for signs of their prey, but all they found was one tiny life form. But by then, it was too late. They too, were subjugated, and all turned as one, to serve their new master.

ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD