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CptCamoPants

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Souplex said:
The right to bear arms is a term that gets tossed around a lot when debating gun control laws. It was put in the constitution when guns were inaccurate had an ammo capacity of one and took two minutes to reload. How do you think it should be implemented today?
The inaccurate part would make it worse...
And the writers of the Bill of Rights thought very far ahead, that's why it's still relevant over 200 years of it being written. The right to bear arms is a very important one, because if you take the weapons away from the civilian populace, what is to stop the government from abusing their power, and gaining powers that they were not meant to have in the first place (this is happening now, by the way).
And to take a quote from someone I don't remember: "The people should not fear the government, the government should fear the people."
 

Mcupobob

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Berethond said:
Last of the Chinchillas said:
I have to ask: did your finger slip while you were typing the title, or was that intentional?

It is ridiculous that you can buy an assault weapon in the U.S. No amount of deer hunting requires armor piercing rounds and a muzzle velocity of 3,200 ft/s.
Uhhhh....
We can't buy assault weapons in the U.S.
You can buy the parts to assulte weapones and assemble it yourself, funny law huh.

I think as long as your not a crimnal or a phsyco then your entitled to that right.

"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.
The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is
wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts
they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions,
it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ...
And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as
to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost
in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It is its natural manure."

We the citzens have the right to protect are selfs for the people that govern us.
 

Berethond

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Mcupobob said:
Berethond said:
Last of the Chinchillas said:
I have to ask: did your finger slip while you were typing the title, or was that intentional?

It is ridiculous that you can buy an assault weapon in the U.S. No amount of deer hunting requires armor piercing rounds and a muzzle velocity of 3,200 ft/s.
Uhhhh....
We can't buy assault weapons in the U.S.
You can buy the parts to assulte weapones and assemble it yourself, funny law huh.

I think as long as your not a crimnal or a phsyco then your entitled to that right.

"God forbid we should ever be twenty years without such a rebellion.
The people cannot be all, and always, well informed. The part which is
wrong will be discontented, in proportion to the importance of the facts
they misconceive. If they remain quiet under such misconceptions,
it is lethargy, the forerunner of death to the public liberty. ...
And what country can preserve its liberties, if its rulers are not
warned from time to time, that this people preserve the spirit of
resistance? Let them take arms. The remedy is to set them right as
to the facts, pardon and pacify them. What signify a few lives lost
in a century or two? The tree of liberty must be refreshed from
time to time, with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
It is its natural manure."

We the citzens have the right to protect are selfs for the people that govern us.
Me, you, and Zombie Jefferson should overthrow the government. I've always wanted to run around with heads on pikes. (And I promised my friend Marissa we would go run around with heads on pikes together. Might as well make it a date.)
 

Thwarted

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These fools banging on about assault weapons in the US know nothing of the relevent legislation. The assault weapons act of 1984 bans the sale of all fully automatic weapons to civilians. civilian legal semi automatic weapons are available in their stead. Also, you CANNOT just buy the parts of a fully automatic assault rifle and asemble them yourself as for the purposes of the law the "gun" part of the weapon is the lower reciever, and that is what goes on your lisence. The only way you can get a fully automatic m16 as a civilian legally in the US is to buy a semi auto civilian legal AR-15 and a lower reciever from an m16 made before 1984. These are legal because they were made before the 1984 act came into effect. The downside to this is because of the rarity of these lower recievers they are extremely hard to come buy and often sell for well over ten thousand dollars. Or you could just spend a hundred bucks on a 1960s AK-47. Still need a class 3 license tho, and they take background and psychological tests.

Also, armor piercing and high velocity military grade ammunition are illegal for civilian sale anyhoo.
 

CrysisMcGee

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There are 3 types of people that have guns.

Type 1 are People that only buy guns to use (Legally). Such as Hunting, clay pigeon shooting, that sort of thing. Also self defense.

Type 2 is a gun collector. This person usually enjoys all the aspects of type 1, and also has a large collection. He may have hundreds, but nearly all of them will either be incases or storage. He will keep roughly 5 guns on hand that he uses regularly.

Then you have type 3. The gun nut. This is the guy that gets kicked out of militias. They will have a gun in every room of the house, keep one on their person at all times, and thinks that concealed weapons are more important than freedom of speech.

Murderer is in a different category, because they don't give a shit about the Law. Gun laws don't do anything, because illegal guns are easy to get. It is impossible to prevent someone from killing people by making a gun law. All gun laws do is give the illusion that you are safer.

If someone is going on a killing rampage, they aren't doing the 15 day waiting period.
 

Escapefromwhatever

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IdealistCommi said:
Even if someone has a criminal record, they'll will still get their hands on guns from runners and gangs. We should just take out the middle man and let every all citezins above 18 buy and own a gun.
The problem there is that most gun violence doesn't come from gangs and random criminals hanging out on the street, but from everyday people who just snap or have some sort of plan that others don't know of. Legal gun owners are often a bigger threat than criminal gun owners. What I would like to see happen (in the U.S. at least) is for people who want to own anything other than a shotgun or hunting rifle to have to join the national guard or another military branch.
 

Souplex

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IdealistCommi said:
Very true, but Even a pistol? I mean, like a 9mm (or smaller), used for receration of self-defense? I'd think it would be easier to defend your self with a pistol than a shot-gun, even more so when they are intruding your home.
Some would argue that pistols are more dangerous as you can have them with you when you decide to murder somebody and they are just as capable of killing a person as a shotgun.
 

Thwarted

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So we should ban pistols on the grounds that if someone decides to commit murder they have a change of heart when they realise pistol ownership is illegal?
 

Souplex

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angjn said:
So we should ban pistols on the grounds that if someone decides to commit murder they have a change of heart when they realise pistol ownership is illegal?
A ban would mean that they stop being produced and any that the authorities find would be taken out of circulation, it is not perfect but it helps.
 

Thwarted

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Souplex said:
angjn said:
So we should ban pistols on the grounds that if someone decides to commit murder they have a change of heart when they realise pistol ownership is illegal?
A ban would mean that they stop being produced and any that the authorities find would be taken out of circulation, it is not perfect but it helps.
I live in the UK, pistols were banned here in 1997. The number of crimes involving handguns hase gone UP steadily since because they are readily available on the black market and criminals feel very safe using them. Because no law abiding citizen carrys a gun they know they will always be better armed. How do you think they would feel if even 10% of us carried concealed weapons?
 

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Last of the Chinchillas said:
I have to ask: did your finger slip while you were typing the title, or was that intentional?

It is ridiculous that you can buy an assault weapon in the U.S. No amount of deer hunting requires armor piercing rounds and a muzzle velocity of 3,200 ft/s.

Vengeful Bambina, the deadliest world of warcraft mob ever would disagree with you.
I don't think we should have assault rifles but we should be able to have all the guns we want for self defense. For those who say guns kill people, so does a car in the hands of an irresponsible person.
 

Souplex

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Just out of curiosity are there any reasonable poll options I might have missed?
 

Keela

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Xero Scythe said:
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TheLoveRat said:
Dude, guns aren't cool...fistfights are the way to go my friend.
can't bring a fist to a gunfight... it gets shot full of more holes than swiss cheese.
But don´t bring a gun to a knife fight.Everyone will gang up on you.And trust there aren't enough bullets in that gun.
there are if it's a p99.
But it burns so fast through the ammo that if you don´t hit everyone your dead.Since the reloading the p99 takes a little time.
you are thinking of the p80. the p99 is a pistol.
Fungive me for asking, but why do we care?
 

LockHeart

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I think that the only bar on a citizen owning a firearm should be a criminal record for a serious crime, i.e. GBH, robbery etc., or serious mental illness.