Poll: Gay marriage- your thoughts?

[arcainia]

And I don't really see how porn an issue.

It's an issue when someone thinks about it WAY too much.

Then I would say that it's less about being homosexual and more about being...well, a deprived pervert?

 

[Aschenkatza]

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A desire to Go taboo is the reason for Gay's and lesbians, Man's lust for sin seem's to be a sick and insatiable one.

I am not heavily religious, can you please explain those versus to me in a way I can understand? Either in here or pm would be wonderful.

 

[Darkdawn]

And I don't really see how porn an issue.

It's an issue when someone thinks about it WAY too much.

Then I would say that it's less about being homosexual and more about being...well, a deprived pervert?

That's most likely the case.
Here's some easy evidence; 97% of the internet is porn.

 

[sneakypenguin]

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EDIT I agree with mr olliver about the children thing.

On your Edit: Did you read my rebuttal on children?

Indeed, and frankly I despise this subject but here is my 2 cents.

Children learn from their parents and environment, chances are if your parents are christian and conservative you will be too. Not always the case but it does affect how you see things. I've learned this by being a kids camp worker, you can get kids to believe and act like anything.
Magnify this by 18 years and you have the potential to warp a kid to something unnatural, I know the words homosexual and unnatural are fire starters but it's what I believe( yes I know it occurs in nature but generally its still a deviant action). As a Christian I can not provide you with a fair and balanced view on this subject and as such refrain from saying anything more than a statement on my beliefs.

 

[Darkdawn]

You have no idea what your saying. I'm quoting God he'd know whats best after all

Wow.
Yes, of course. Because someone who lets people commit genocide, let Hitler kill so many people, and let so much illness run rampant throughout humanity definitely knows what's best.
Remember; saying God knows what's best to an atheist is just asking to be laughed at.

 

[santaandy]

Man's lust for sin seem's to be a sick and insatable one.

No more sick and insatiable than some Christians' desires to persecute every non-Christian for every reason under the sun. If people would just let go of organized religions and the hate they force upon us life would be so much better for all.

I may not be gay, I'd rather love the wrong way than hate the right way.

 

[arcainia]

Romans 1:23-27
23;And [Mankind] changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24;Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25;Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26; For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27;And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
(KJV)

A desire to Go taboo is the reason for Gay's and lesbians, Man's lust for sin seem's to be a sick and insatable one.

Well you know, according to your book, we should treat 99.9% of all humans as filth, because no one these days has sex for the simple purpose of reproduction.
And that's what lust really means, doesn't it?

 

[Darkdawn]

Man's lust for sin seem's to be a sick and insatable one.

No more sick and insatiable than some Christians' desires to persecute every non-Christian for every reason under the sun. If people would just let go of organized religions and the hate they force upon us life would be so much better for all.

I may not be gay, I'd rather love the wrong way than hate the right way.

YES! Finally, someone who speaks complete and total sense!

 

[Darkdawn]

Against.

I don't know any gays (admitted gays, that is), and I very much doubt that giving them the ability to marry will change anything, but I do find the idea of our society smiling on it somewhat...off-putting. Approving of something that defies very basic biology doesn't seem like the grandest idea to me. Then again, what with in-vitro and such, that's probably not such a large issue as it once was.

Oh well. Against, still, out of my small-minded stubbornness.

I'm pretty sure BJs aren't part of our biology.

 

[Darkdawn]

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A desire to Go taboo is the reason for Gay's and lesbians, Man's lust for sin seem's to be a sick and insatiable one.

I am not heavily religious, can you please explain those versus to me in a way I can understand? Either in here or pm would be wonderful.

If you read the context of those verses and then read on what is being said is that out of mans rebellious nature they take what they know is right, man plus woman, and do the exact opposite. the same way atheists take the most obvious truths and say the exact opposite. Or how some people take what their peers say is right and good and do exactly the opposite.
Pm me if you have more query's bl glad to answer

Hey, I'm atheist!
Obvious truths?
2+2=4.
It's still 4, right?
Green is a mixture of blue and yellow.
If you mix blue and yellow, you still get green, right?
Oxygen is in air.
The entire planet didn't just die off from suffocation, right?

 

[Arcade_Fire]

Romans 1:23-27
23;And [Mankind] changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24;Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25;Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26; For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27;And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
(KJV)

A desire to Go taboo is the reason for Gay's and lesbians, Man's lust for sin seem's to be a sick and insatable one.

If GOD has a problem with it, then why don't you let GOD punish them himself?

Who are you, or anyone else for that matter, to make god's decisions for him?

This is why I've never bought the religious objection to gay marriage... you'd think god would have done some serious smiting by now if he really had such a huge problem with it.

 

[Aschenkatza]

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EDIT I agree with mr olliver about the children thing.

On your Edit: Did you read my rebuttal on children?

Indeed, and frankly I despise this subject but here is my 2 cents.

Children learn from their parents and environment, chances are if your parents are christian and conservative you will be too. Not always the case but it does affect how you see things. I've learned this by being a kids camp worker, you can get kids to believe and act like anything.
Magnify this by 18 years and you have the potential to warp a kid to something unnatural, I know the words homosexual and unnatural are fire starters but it's what I believe( yes I know it occurs in nature but generally its still a deviant action). As a Christian I can not provide you with a fair and balanced view on this subject and as such refrain from saying anything more than a statement on my beliefs.

I respect your opinion and thank you for giving it. It is always nice to see the world from other people's perspective.
This is your bias, and everyone as one =P
Again thank you, it's greatly appreciated <3

 

[Kandon Arc]

Can we just accept no ground is being given here? If homosexuality is immoral, let God punish them not us, and if you need a quote how about "Let him who is without sin be the first to throw the stone."

 

[Arcade_Fire]

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A desire to Go taboo is the reason for Gay's and lesbians, Man's lust for sin seem's to be a sick and insatiable one.

I am not heavily religious, can you please explain those versus to me in a way I can understand? Either in here or pm would be wonderful.

If you read the context of those verses and then read on what is being said is that out of mans rebellious nature they take what they know is right, man plus woman, and do the exact opposite. the same way atheists take the most obvious truths and say the exact opposite. Or how some people take what their peers say is right and good and do exactly the opposite.
Pm me if you have more query's bl glad to answer

Hey, I'm atheist!
Obvious truths?
2+2=4.
It's still 4, right?

Your logic just caused an angel to burst into flames. Nice job, jackass.

 

[aheetbaybees]

To anyone who is saying that marriage is a Christian institution are wrong. Simply put, the Greeks and Egyptians and many other cultures that came before the Bible had some form of marriage.

I also think that the argument that you can't re-define a word is a poor one, as words gain and lose meanings all the time, and the exact definition of marriage has changed in America alone once or twice.

On to my personal beliefs, yes I think homosexual marriage should be allowed, however it appears at this point in time a compromise is necessary. I personally believe that the best compromise is that in which both heterosexual and homosexual couples have legal civil unions which legally confer the same rights and benefits, and let churches or communities decide who can call themselves married which will carry no additional legal benefits.

 

[Darkdawn]

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A desire to Go taboo is the reason for Gay's and lesbians, Man's lust for sin seem's to be a sick and insatiable one.

I am not heavily religious, can you please explain those versus to me in a way I can understand? Either in here or pm would be wonderful.

If you read the context of those verses and then read on what is being said is that out of mans rebellious nature they take what they know is right, man plus woman, and do the exact opposite. the same way atheists take the most obvious truths and say the exact opposite. Or how some people take what their peers say is right and good and do exactly the opposite.
Pm me if you have more query's bl glad to answer

Hey, I'm atheist!
Obvious truths?
2+2=4.
It's still 4, right?

Your logic just caused an angel to burst into flames. Nice job, jackass.

Still, 2 plus 2 does equal 4. So correct logic makes angels burst into flames?
Sweet. I can't wait for math class.

 

[Aschenkatza]

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A desire to Go taboo is the reason for Gay's and lesbians, Man's lust for sin seem's to be a sick and insatiable one.

I am not heavily religious, can you please explain those versus to me in a way I can understand? Either in here or pm would be wonderful.

If you read the context of those verses and then read on what is being said is that out of mans rebellious nature they take what they know is right, man plus woman, and do the exact opposite. the same way atheists take the most obvious truths and say the exact opposite. Or how some people take what their peers say is right and good and do exactly the opposite.
Pm me if you have more query's bl glad to answer

So it's pretty much, "We are homosexual because we're not so post to be. We want what we're not so post to have."
Interesting way of looking at it. I use this theory all the time for other debates and it's funny to see it used in this light!