Poll: Gay marriage- your thoughts?

[BLOONINJA 503]

Marriage is between a Man and Woman in every religion.

Sure give them the same legal status as a married couple, but don't flog it off as marriage when it clearly isn't. If they really wanted to be married they could find someone of the opposite sex.

Since when did "because everyone else is doing it..." makes it set in stone, fact???

It not really ANYONES place to tell anyone else who they can and cant marry when they are adults.

Marriage is between a Man and a Woman. As I have already said, now this isn't a "follow the sheep" mentality, I would like to see tradition continued.

The Pope can certainly say that you can't have a Christian marriage if you don't meet the requirements.

Give Homosexuals the rights, but let it be set apart from marriage. Simply because it isn't marriage.

For the record I am an athiest.

so freedom is another word for bullshit???

it IS apart from marriage, how do people not make this connection??? mind-numing.

im a catholic, for the record.

Oh really? Go to California and ask how far a gay couple got when they asked for a marriage license.

I am a natural born Californian.

living in oregon now so I cant say Im up to speed.

I meant that it is pretty obvious that the marriage between two men is not traditionally.

why people have the WORD mariiage so sacred to them I will never know.

Its the feelings and emotions that count, if you really are in love.

 

[Aschenkatza]

It's quite possibly one of the worst ideas i've ever heard. Talk about confusing children...
It's all because of the liberal, "everyone together", "let's all be united", age that we live in.

Damn those Liberalists!! [and yes I know that's not a word >.>]
It wasn't that bad... we'd have it be a high school class or something... mixed with sex-ed...
^^;

 

[Darkdawn]

Marriage is between a Man and Woman in every religion.

Sure give them the same legal status as a married couple, but don't flog it off as marriage when it clearly isn't. If they really wanted to be married they could find someone of the opposite sex.

Since when did "because everyone else is doing it..." makes it set in stone, fact???

It not really ANYONES place to tell anyone else who they can and cant marry when they are adults.

Marriage is between a Man and a Woman. As I have already said, now this isn't a "follow the sheep" mentality, I would like to see tradition continued.

The Pope can certainly say that you can't have a Christian marriage if you don't meet the requirements.

Give Homosexuals the rights, but let it be set apart from marriage. Simply because it isn't marriage.

For the record I am an athiest.

so freedom is another word for bullshit???

it IS apart from marriage, how do people not make this connection??? mind-numing.

im a catholic, for the record.

Oh really? Go to California and ask how far a gay couple got when they asked for a marriage license.

I am a natural born Californian.

living in oregon now so I cant say Im up to speed.

I meant that it is pretty obvious that the marriage between two men is not traditionally.

why people have the WORD mariiage so sacred to them I will never know.

Its the feelings and emotions that count, if you really are in love.

The point is, marriage gives certain extras for like taxes and things like that, that gays can't get because they'd HAVE to be married, since the US law system is out of the loop and old.

 

[scoHish]

Nothin' to discuss man. Love who you love.

 

[Aschenkatza]

Marriage is between a Man and Woman in every religion.

Sure give them the same legal status as a married couple, but don't flog it off as marriage when it clearly isn't. If they really wanted to be married they could find someone of the opposite sex.

Since when did "because everyone else is doing it..." makes it set in stone, fact???

It not really ANYONES place to tell anyone else who they can and cant marry when they are adults.

Marriage is between a Man and a Woman. As I have already said, now this isn't a "follow the sheep" mentality, I would like to see tradition continued.

The Pope can certainly say that you can't have a Christian marriage if you don't meet the requirements.

Give Homosexuals the rights, but let it be set apart from marriage. Simply because it isn't marriage.

For the record I am an athiest.

so freedom is another word for bullshit???

it IS apart from marriage, how do people not make this connection??? mind-numing.

im a catholic, for the record.

Oh really? Go to California and ask how far a gay couple got when they asked for a marriage license.

We have homosexual marriages in California, it's just illegal to GET married here. If you marry in another state which does do homosexual marriages you have the rights of a married couple. You just can't get married IN Californian right now. There is some talk about the law being repelled.

 

[Nikajo]

Well I am the 'extremeist' from the other thread, I will put this more kindly. I am agianst it, keep traditional marriage. If you want to know why, ask. Otherwise I will not say anymore.

....uhh...okay....I ask you ghost02, what is it that has you against gay marriage.

Ok I will copy and paste.

Bible says no. Sorry guys, but I think it is disgusting and should be abolished. I am being serious, I can NOT stand people who push gay agendas or even say they are. I just can't hold them up to the same moral light...

Ok. I just have a problem with it. I may be the only one, and it is not PC, but I am a homophobe. I just am. I can't change what I see, homosexuality bother me to no end, if some one is gay, and I know, I just can't talk to them, it is incredably awkward for me.

Why do they have gay bars and such? Why not go to heterosexual clubs? Why? Because they are scared? Maybe. Why should they have a subculture unless they are not accepted. Drug culture: not accepted. Goth culture: not accepted. Emo: not accepted. Most cultures that have their own ways of dressing and acting are not accepted. They should not exist, they should not beleive in what they stand for. What do gays stand for? What do goths and emos and drugs stand for? Socially destructive things. Things that destroy nations. May be extreme for goth and emo, but gays and druggies destroy.

I know you think I am wrong, but these are what I think. I am not going to edit what I think, I am being honest.

Well the bible holds no sway with me so you can shove that for a start.

It's not just about being PC, it's about accepting people for who they are, who they want to be. To be perfectly honest it's none of your business, you have absoltuely no right to tell people that their way of life should be abolished. Comparing homosexuals and goths/emos is
pretty misled as most homosexuals are homosexuals because they were born that way, the vast majority didn't choose it but are comfortable with who they are. I do not believe the same can be said for the vast majority of 'alternative' people who can choose what they wear and what music they listen to.

You don't seem like an unintelligent person to me which is why I find it even more infuriating that you would take this view. Homosexual people don't destroy things, if anything they add another dimension, another point of view. I find it hard to believe that such ignorance can still exist these days and the sadest part is it's a largely Western attitude born from old ideas about religion. I say old ideas because I know religious people who couldn't care less what other people get up to in their relationships and sex lives.

Yes you are entitiled to an opinion but you are not entitled to tell other people how to live their lives, especially when it doesn't affect you in the slightest.

 

[Leefank137]

I don't see any problem with it.

 

[Darkdawn]

You have no idea what your saying. I'm quoting God he'd know whats best after all

Wow.
Yes, of course. Because someone who lets people commit genocide, let Hitler kill so many people, and let so much illness run rampant throughout humanity definitely knows what's best.
Remember; saying God knows what's best to an atheist is just asking to be laughed at.

You fool jesus christ said Even the devils know god's name and in mark 4 the devil himself quotes scripture so anyone even you, can say you're doing stuff for God. Hitler was Wrong but none of that was for God
and illness is not caused by God it is caused by mans corruption when he disobeyed god in the garden of eden and let me remind you there is a devil lol you fail at Atheism Pm if you want more answers

I wonder if anyone could sound more retarded.
First off, God doesn't exist. Neither does the Devil. They're excuses humanity made because they were too retarded to figure things out on their own. Same thing Romans did, same thing the Greece did, and the Egyptians. Man's corruption is man's retardation. The only disobeying is that of common sense that a person is a person and that you are an idiot.
Simple enough.

 

[Aschenkatza]

Marriage is between a Man and Woman in every religion.

Sure give them the same legal status as a married couple, but don't flog it off as marriage when it clearly isn't. If they really wanted to be married they could find someone of the opposite sex.

Since when did "because everyone else is doing it..." makes it set in stone, fact???

It not really ANYONES place to tell anyone else who they can and cant marry when they are adults.

Marriage is between a Man and a Woman. As I have already said, now this isn't a "follow the sheep" mentality, I would like to see tradition continued.

The Pope can certainly say that you can't have a Christian marriage if you don't meet the requirements.

Give Homosexuals the rights, but let it be set apart from marriage. Simply because it isn't marriage.

For the record I am an athiest.

so freedom is another word for bullshit???

it IS apart from marriage, how do people not make this connection??? mind-numing.

im a catholic, for the record.

Oh really? Go to California and ask how far a gay couple got when they asked for a marriage license.

I am a natural born Californian.

living in oregon now so I cant say Im up to speed.

I meant that it is pretty obvious that the marriage between two men is not traditionally.

why people have the WORD mariiage so sacred to them I will never know.

Its the feelings and emotions that count, if you really are in love.

The point is, marriage gives certain extras for like taxes and things like that, that gays can't get because they'd HAVE to be married, since the US law system is out of the loop and old.

You all make it sound like Homosexuals NEED the tax benefits. It's not all about money people.
The BIGGEST marriage benefit is being allowed to see your significant other in the hospital. There are times when they allow "Family Only" and if your not married, your not "Family". Also, if your married, you have the right to say when to pull the plug. If your lovers and the family wants the person to stay hooked up like a vegetable[even if you know better] you have NO right to say anything.
If you know your significant other wants to be cremated and your not married, you have NO say in the burial.
Get over your money, think about the REAL marriage benefits.

 

[Mr0llivand3r]

i understand, but the fact that some gays even claim to have been born that way means that there are many gays who weren't and became that way. all i'm saying is that since the mind of a small child is must more malleable and shapeable, they MAY end up being another "became that way because of my surroundings" gay person

We'll agree to disagree then. I see what you mean and agree at an extent that this situation could arise, but in general it is unlikely.
However, one way we could regulate such an occurrence is to broaden the knowledge about homosexuality so that it is taught openly in schools. That way even if someone became homosexual because of surroundings then it wouldn't be an issue. After all, how much of a homosexual relationship is different from a heterosexual one? In the end, it is mainly just having sex differently from vaginal intercourse.

wow... a sexual preference taught as a subject in schools... what would this world come to...

Haha, I know what you mean. I'm in a Human Sexuality class in college and my god you should hear what people say to me when I tell them that. I've actually had people start asking me questions related to sex.
Full on Homosexuality classes, people would go NUTS!

It's quite possibly one of the worst ideas i've ever heard. Talk about confusing children...
It's all because of the liberal, "everyone together", "let's all be united", age that we live in.

What's confusing about it?
This is a man.
This is a woman.
Some men like women.
Some men like men.
Some women like men.
Some women like women.

Yeah. Real confusing.

because then the child would end up trying to evaluate themselves instead of letting their feelings come naturally. it breaks love down into a formula. they could end up thinking, "hmmm well what do i really like? From what i've seen, I'm not sure" instead of letting people find what they like through themselves, they are trying to decide based on outside instruction, which is wrong

 

[Aqualung]

Sure. Go nuts.





..Pun SO intended.

 

[Avatar Roku]

Romans 1:23-27
23;And [Mankind] changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.

24;Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:

25;Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.

26; For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

27;And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
(KJV)

A desire to Go taboo is the reason for Gay's and lesbians, Man's lust for sin seem's to be a sick and insatable one.

lol at using the bible as proof.

Alright, I'll humor you. You can't just pick and choose which verses to quote. After all, aren't there also verses that say you should stone disobedient children? Or that condone selling daughters into slavery?

Man's lust for sin seem's to be a sick and insatable one.

No more sick and insatiable than some Christians' desires to persecute every non-Christian for every reason under the sun. If people would just let go of organized religions and the hate they force upon us life would be so much better for all.

I may not be gay, I'd rather love the wrong way than hate the right way.

I am so using that line.

i understand, but the fact that some gays even claim to have been born that way means that there are many gays who weren't and became that way. all i'm saying is that since the mind of a small child is must more malleable and shapeable, they MAY end up being another "became that way because of my surroundings" gay person

We'll agree to disagree then. I see what you mean and agree at an extent that this situation could arise, but in general it is unlikely.
However, one way we could regulate such an occurrence is to broaden the knowledge about homosexuality so that it is taught openly in schools. That way even if someone became homosexual because of surroundings then it wouldn't be an issue. After all, how much of a homosexual relationship is different from a heterosexual one? In the end, it is mainly just having sex differently from vaginal intercourse.

wow... a sexual preference taught as a subject in schools... what would this world come to...

I think you misunderstood him. My understanding was that he meant it just wouldn't be such a taboo subject anymore. Gay children wouldn't have to stay in the closet for fear of being ridiculed and the like.

i understand, but the fact that some gays even claim to have been born that way means that there are many gays who weren't and became that way. all i'm saying is that since the mind of a small child is must more malleable and shapeable, they MAY end up being another "became that way because of my surroundings" gay person

We'll agree to disagree then. I see what you mean and agree at an extent that this situation could arise, but in general it is unlikely.
However, one way we could regulate such an occurrence is to broaden the knowledge about homosexuality so that it is taught openly in schools. That way even if someone became homosexual because of surroundings then it wouldn't be an issue. After all, how much of a homosexual relationship is different from a heterosexual one? In the end, it is mainly just having sex differently from vaginal intercourse.

wow... a sexual preference taught as a subject in schools... what would this world come to...

Haha, I know what you mean. I'm in a Human Sexuality class in college and my god you should hear what people say to me when I tell them that. I've actually had people start asking me questions related to sex.
Full on Homosexuality classes, people would go NUTS!

It's quite possibly one of the worst ideas i've ever heard. Talk about confusing children...
It's all because of the liberal, "everyone together", "let's all be united", age that we live in.

What's confusing about it?
This is a man.
This is a woman.
Some men like women.
Some men like men.
Some women like men.
Some women like women.

Yeah. Real confusing.

because then the child would end up trying to evaluate themselves instead of letting their feelings come naturally. it breaks love down into a formula. they could end up thinking, "hmmm well what do i really like? From what i've seen, I'm not sure" instead of letting people find what they like through themselves, they are trying to decide based on outside instruction, which is wrong

*gasp*Promoting self introspection and nonconformity? Whatever will we do?

 

[Kandon Arc]

You have no idea what your saying. I'm quoting God he'd know whats best after all

Wow.
Yes, of course. Because someone who lets people commit genocide, let Hitler kill so many people, and let so much illness run rampant throughout humanity definitely knows what's best.
Remember; saying God knows what's best to an atheist is just asking to be laughed at.

You fool jesus christ said Even the devils know god's name and in mark 4 the devil himself quotes scripture so anyone even you, can say you're doing stuff for God. Hitler was Wrong but none of that was for God
and illness is not caused by God it is caused by mans corruption when he disobeyed god in the garden of eden and let me remind you there is a devil lol you fail at Atheism Pm if you want more answers

I wonder if anyone could sound more retarded.
First off, God doesn't exist. Neither does the Devil. They're excuses humanity made because they were too retarded to figure things out on their own. Same thing Romans did, same thing the Greece did, and the Egyptians. Man's corruption is man's retardation. The only disobeying is that of common sense that a person is a person and that you are an idiot.
Simple enough.

Are you saying that over 84% of the worlds population is retarded (http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html ) ? The guy may be an idiot but have a bit of respect for intelligent believers.

 

[Avatar Roku]

You have no idea what your saying. I'm quoting God he'd know whats best after all

Wow.
Yes, of course. Because someone who lets people commit genocide, let Hitler kill so many people, and let so much illness run rampant throughout humanity definitely knows what's best.
Remember; saying God knows what's best to an atheist is just asking to be laughed at.

You fool jesus christ said Even the devils know god's name and in mark 4 the devil himself quotes scripture so anyone even you, can say you're doing stuff for God. Hitler was Wrong but none of that was for God
and illness is not caused by God it is caused by mans corruption when he disobeyed god in the garden of eden and let me remind you there is a devil lol you fail at Atheism Pm if you want more answers

I wonder if anyone could sound more retarded.
First off, God doesn't exist. Neither does the Devil. They're excuses humanity made because they were too retarded to figure things out on their own. Same thing Romans did, same thing the Greece did, and the Egyptians. Man's corruption is man's retardation. The only disobeying is that of common sense that a person is a person and that you are an idiot.
Simple enough.

Are you saying that over 84% of the worlds population is retarded (http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html ) ? The guy may be an idiot but have a bit of respect for intelligent believers.

I will as soon as you show me some.

EDIT:Sorry, that was unfair and hostile, I'm just frustrated. I know plenty of intelligent believers.

 

[arcainia]

i understand, but the fact that some gays even claim to have been born that way means that there are many gays who weren't and became that way. all i'm saying is that since the mind of a small child is must more malleable and shapeable, they MAY end up being another "became that way because of my surroundings" gay person

We'll agree to disagree then. I see what you mean and agree at an extent that this situation could arise, but in general it is unlikely.
However, one way we could regulate such an occurrence is to broaden the knowledge about homosexuality so that it is taught openly in schools. That way even if someone became homosexual because of surroundings then it wouldn't be an issue. After all, how much of a homosexual relationship is different from a heterosexual one? In the end, it is mainly just having sex differently from vaginal intercourse.

wow... a sexual preference taught as a subject in schools... what would this world come to...

Haha, I know what you mean. I'm in a Human Sexuality class in college and my god you should hear what people say to me when I tell them that. I've actually had people start asking me questions related to sex.
Full on Homosexuality classes, people would go NUTS!

It's quite possibly one of the worst ideas i've ever heard. Talk about confusing children...
It's all because of the liberal, "everyone together", "let's all be united", age that we live in.

What's confusing about it?
This is a man.
This is a woman.
Some men like women.
Some men like men.
Some women like men.
Some women like women.

Yeah. Real confusing.

because then the child would end up trying to evaluate themselves instead of letting their feelings come naturally. it breaks love down into a formula. they could end up thinking, "hmmm well what do i really like? From what i've seen, I'm not sure" instead of letting people find what they like through themselves, they are trying to decide based on outside instruction, which is wrong

Honestly, you're making humans seem alot more stupid then...well, I don't really give them that much credit, but even I know you have to be pretty brain-dead to let those kind of things affect your sexuality. Whether they are exposed to it or not, almost all teenagers go through a sexual identity crisis at some point. It never lasts long. And it doesn't do any harm either. It takes time for people to realize who and what they are, and that doesn't just apply for sexual prefrences. So yeah, some kid might end up thinking "hmm, I'm not sure if I like men or women" chances are, the turd will realize what he likes in a year or two. From what I'm getting, you're scared that the children will grow up 'not having their own opinion', and therefor would turn gay. But if they're happy with that, what the hell is the problem?

 

[Mr0llivand3r]

i understand, but the fact that some gays even claim to have been born that way means that there are many gays who weren't and became that way. all i'm saying is that since the mind of a small child is must more malleable and shapeable, they MAY end up being another "became that way because of my surroundings" gay person

We'll agree to disagree then. I see what you mean and agree at an extent that this situation could arise, but in general it is unlikely.
However, one way we could regulate such an occurrence is to broaden the knowledge about homosexuality so that it is taught openly in schools. That way even if someone became homosexual because of surroundings then it wouldn't be an issue. After all, how much of a homosexual relationship is different from a heterosexual one? In the end, it is mainly just having sex differently from vaginal intercourse.

wow... a sexual preference taught as a subject in schools... what would this world come to...

Haha, I know what you mean. I'm in a Human Sexuality class in college and my god you should hear what people say to me when I tell them that. I've actually had people start asking me questions related to sex.
Full on Homosexuality classes, people would go NUTS!

It's quite possibly one of the worst ideas i've ever heard. Talk about confusing children...
It's all because of the liberal, "everyone together", "let's all be united", age that we live in.

What's confusing about it?
This is a man.
This is a woman.
Some men like women.
Some men like men.
Some women like men.
Some women like women.

Yeah. Real confusing.

because then the child would end up trying to evaluate themselves instead of letting their feelings come naturally. it breaks love down into a formula. they could end up thinking, "hmmm well what do i really like? From what i've seen, I'm not sure" instead of letting people find what they like through themselves, they are trying to decide based on outside instruction, which is wrong

Honestly, you're making humans seem alot more stupid then...well, I don't really give them that much credit, but even I know you have to be pretty brain-dead to let those kind of things affect your sexuality. Whether they are exposed to it or not, almost all teenagers go through a sexual identity crisis at some point. It never lasts long. And it doesn't do any harm either. It takes time for people to realize who and what they are, and that doesn't just apply for sexual prefrences. So yeah, some kid might end up thinking "hmm, I'm not sure if I like men or women" chances are, the turd will realize what he likes in a year or two. From what I'm getting, you're scared that the children will grow up 'not having their own opinion', and therefor would turn gay. But if they're happy with that, what the hell is the problem?

there's nothing wrong with being happy if you find your happiness on your own steam. there's something wrong with being happy for the wrong reason or being happy because you've been misguided, they you're not being happy, you're just being manipulated into being complacent.

 

[UpSkirtDistress]

yes of course, a homosexual should have every single identical right as a hetrosexual. I can understand why not in a church though i cant understand why a homosexual would still follow the catholic church seeing as it condemns them to enternal torture. (I didnt say not believe in God just follow the church)

Oh and whats with all the people saying stuff like

So long as they don't rub it in my face and try to make me follow them, they can do what they want.

How are they going to rub it in your face exactly. haha we can get married fuck you.....