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Mr0llivand3r

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Aschenkatza said:
Mr0llivand3r said:
i understand, but the fact that some gays even claim to have been born that way means that there are many gays who weren't and became that way. all i'm saying is that since the mind of a small child is must more malleable and shapeable, they MAY end up being another "became that way because of my surroundings" gay person
We'll agree to disagree then. I see what you mean and agree at an extent that this situation could arise, but in general it is unlikely.
However, one way we could regulate such an occurrence is to broaden the knowledge about homosexuality so that it is taught openly in schools. That way even if someone became homosexual because of surroundings then it wouldn't be an issue. After all, how much of a homosexual relationship is different from a heterosexual one? In the end, it is mainly just having sex differently from vaginal intercourse.
wow... a sexual preference taught as a subject in schools... what would this world come to...
 

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Darkdawn said:
Arcade_Fire said:
Darkdawn said:
nyctoftero said:
Aschenkatza said:
nyctoftero said:
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A desire to Go taboo is the reason for Gay's and lesbians, Man's lust for sin seem's to be a sick and insatiable one.
I am not heavily religious, can you please explain those versus to me in a way I can understand? Either in here or pm would be wonderful.
If you read the context of those verses and then read on what is being said is that out of mans rebellious nature they take what they know is right, man plus woman, and do the exact opposite. the same way atheists take the most obvious truths and say the exact opposite. Or how some people take what their peers say is right and good and do exactly the opposite.
Pm me if you have more query's bl glad to answer:)
Hey, I'm atheist!
Obvious truths?
2+2=4.
It's still 4, right?
Your logic just caused an angel to burst into flames. Nice job, jackass.
Still, 2 plus 2 does equal 4. So correct logic makes angels burst into flames?
Sweet. I can't wait for math class.
I'm also an atheist. I was agreeing with you. Sarcastically. Guess I didn't make that abundantly clear... lol.
 

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I think gay marriage is a good thing. It promotes homosexuality in a 'tolerance' sense. Freedom of choice/ expression and all that. The current situation is prejudiced.

I don't believe in gay couples adopting though.
 

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do you need the cherry on the top of a bannana split
I do believe you just earned a Troll status. I shall await your banning.
and i beleive you are asshole i will await your ass kicking from somee random person
Reported.

You are a troll.

a sad one, but that is the norm with them anyway.
 

Darkdawn

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Arcade_Fire said:
Darkdawn said:
Arcade_Fire said:
Darkdawn said:
nyctoftero said:
Aschenkatza said:
nyctoftero said:
-snipped-

A desire to Go taboo is the reason for Gay's and lesbians, Man's lust for sin seem's to be a sick and insatiable one.
I am not heavily religious, can you please explain those versus to me in a way I can understand? Either in here or pm would be wonderful.
If you read the context of those verses and then read on what is being said is that out of mans rebellious nature they take what they know is right, man plus woman, and do the exact opposite. the same way atheists take the most obvious truths and say the exact opposite. Or how some people take what their peers say is right and good and do exactly the opposite.
Pm me if you have more query's bl glad to answer:)
Hey, I'm atheist!
Obvious truths?
2+2=4.
It's still 4, right?
Your logic just caused an angel to burst into flames. Nice job, jackass.
Still, 2 plus 2 does equal 4. So correct logic makes angels burst into flames?
Sweet. I can't wait for math class.
I'm also an atheist. I was agreeing with you. Sarcastically. Guess I didn't make that abundantly clear... lol.
Apparently not. Oh well.
I'm still gonna save that in a Word file, I have some people that would get a kick out of it.
 

Kandon Arc

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avidabey said:
Against.

I don't know any gays (admitted gays, that is), and I very much doubt that giving them the ability to marry will change anything, but I do find the idea of our society smiling on it somewhat...off-putting. Approving of something that defies very basic biology doesn't seem like the grandest idea to me. Then again, what with in-vitro and such, that's probably not such a large issue as it once was.

Oh well. Against, still, out of my small-minded stubbornness.
I'm pretty sure BJs aren't part of our biology.
Did he say he condoned them?
 

Darkdawn

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Kandon Arc said:
Darkdawn said:
avidabey said:
Against.

I don't know any gays (admitted gays, that is), and I very much doubt that giving them the ability to marry will change anything, but I do find the idea of our society smiling on it somewhat...off-putting. Approving of something that defies very basic biology doesn't seem like the grandest idea to me. Then again, what with in-vitro and such, that's probably not such a large issue as it once was.

Oh well. Against, still, out of my small-minded stubbornness.
I'm pretty sure BJs aren't part of our biology.
Did he say he condoned them?
Not really. But I felt like I needed to make that clear.
 

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Kandon Arc said:
Darkdawn said:
avidabey said:
Against.

I don't know any gays (admitted gays, that is), and I very much doubt that giving them the ability to marry will change anything, but I do find the idea of our society smiling on it somewhat...off-putting. Approving of something that defies very basic biology doesn't seem like the grandest idea to me. Then again, what with in-vitro and such, that's probably not such a large issue as it once was.

Oh well. Against, still, out of my small-minded stubbornness.
I'm pretty sure BJs aren't part of our biology.
Did he say he condoned them?
No, but he implied that the underlying biology is the be all and end all with regards to sex. I.e. Reproduction only. Don't agree on that though.
 

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And i'm sure those mamamals have the complex socioalology and complex development process as human beings do... oh wait a sec.
 

Aschenkatza

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Mr0llivand3r said:
Aschenkatza said:
Mr0llivand3r said:
i understand, but the fact that some gays even claim to have been born that way means that there are many gays who weren't and became that way. all i'm saying is that since the mind of a small child is must more malleable and shapeable, they MAY end up being another "became that way because of my surroundings" gay person
We'll agree to disagree then. I see what you mean and agree at an extent that this situation could arise, but in general it is unlikely.
However, one way we could regulate such an occurrence is to broaden the knowledge about homosexuality so that it is taught openly in schools. That way even if someone became homosexual because of surroundings then it wouldn't be an issue. After all, how much of a homosexual relationship is different from a heterosexual one? In the end, it is mainly just having sex differently from vaginal intercourse.
wow... a sexual preference taught as a subject in schools... what would this world come to...
Haha, I know what you mean. I'm in a Human Sexuality class in college and my god you should hear what people say to me when I tell them that. I've actually had people start asking me questions related to sex.
Full on Homosexuality classes, people would go NUTS!
 

Darkdawn

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GothmogII said:
Kandon Arc said:
Darkdawn said:
avidabey said:
Against.

I don't know any gays (admitted gays, that is), and I very much doubt that giving them the ability to marry will change anything, but I do find the idea of our society smiling on it somewhat...off-putting. Approving of something that defies very basic biology doesn't seem like the grandest idea to me. Then again, what with in-vitro and such, that's probably not such a large issue as it once was.

Oh well. Against, still, out of my small-minded stubbornness.
I'm pretty sure BJs aren't part of our biology.
Did he say he condoned them?
No, but he implied that the underlying biology is the be all and end all with regards to sex. I.e. Reproduction only. Don't agree on that though.
Technically, he implied that he thinks that gay marriage is against our basic biology. And when you think about it, marriage doesn't have anything to do with biology, so...
 

BLOONINJA 503

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Ushario said:
BLOONINJA 503 said:
Ushario said:
Marriage is between a Man and Woman in every religion.

Sure give them the same legal status as a married couple, but don't flog it off as marriage when it clearly isn't. If they really wanted to be married they could find someone of the opposite sex.
Since when did "because everyone else is doing it..." makes it set in stone, fact???

It not really ANYONES place to tell anyone else who they can and cant marry when they are adults.
Marriage is between a Man and a Woman. As I have already said, now this isn't a "follow the sheep" mentality, I would like to see tradition continued.

The Pope can certainly say that you can't have a Christian marriage if you don't meet the requirements.

Give Homosexuals the rights, but let it be set apart from marriage. Simply because it isn't marriage.

For the record I am an athiest.
so freedom is another word for bullshit???

it IS apart from marriage, how do people not make this connection??? mind-numing.

im a catholic, for the record.
 

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confernal said:
And i'm sure those mamamals have the complex socioalology and complex development process as human beings do... oh wait a sec.
What's your point? If anything, those same complexities only ensure that we would be even more varied in our sexual practices.
 

Darkdawn

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BLOONINJA 503 said:
Ushario said:
BLOONINJA 503 said:
Ushario said:
Marriage is between a Man and Woman in every religion.

Sure give them the same legal status as a married couple, but don't flog it off as marriage when it clearly isn't. If they really wanted to be married they could find someone of the opposite sex.
Since when did "because everyone else is doing it..." makes it set in stone, fact???

It not really ANYONES place to tell anyone else who they can and cant marry when they are adults.
Marriage is between a Man and a Woman. As I have already said, now this isn't a "follow the sheep" mentality, I would like to see tradition continued.

The Pope can certainly say that you can't have a Christian marriage if you don't meet the requirements.

Give Homosexuals the rights, but let it be set apart from marriage. Simply because it isn't marriage.

For the record I am an athiest.
so freedom is another word for bullshit???

it IS apart from marriage, how do people not make this connection??? mind-numing.

im a catholic, for the record.
Oh really? Go to California and ask how far a gay couple got when they asked for a marriage license.
 

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confernal said:
And i'm sure those mamamals have the complex socioalology and complex development process as human beings do... oh wait a sec.
Yeah actually some of them do, in fact chimps have strict social systems that are quite complex, it took years of study to uncover but it's there, dolphins supposedly do as well, but it isn't as easy to study. You are reading too much into human social systems and too little into various mammal's.
 

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Mr0llivand3r said:
Aschenkatza said:
Mr0llivand3r said:
i understand, but the fact that some gays even claim to have been born that way means that there are many gays who weren't and became that way. all i'm saying is that since the mind of a small child is must more malleable and shapeable, they MAY end up being another "became that way because of my surroundings" gay person
We'll agree to disagree then. I see what you mean and agree at an extent that this situation could arise, but in general it is unlikely.
However, one way we could regulate such an occurrence is to broaden the knowledge about homosexuality so that it is taught openly in schools. That way even if someone became homosexual because of surroundings then it wouldn't be an issue. After all, how much of a homosexual relationship is different from a heterosexual one? In the end, it is mainly just having sex differently from vaginal intercourse.
wow... a sexual preference taught as a subject in schools... what would this world come to...
Well unless you're still stuck in the 50's, you'll notice that the world is changing quite a bit. You can't stop it. And just like teaching kids about safe sex, they should be taught about homosexual behavior.
A child is going to end up gay whether you like it or not. And the only likely solution is to beat him every day and tell him that it's wrong. In which case you're just oppressing him. The 'gay' isn't going to go away. So the least we can do as an already shitty society is try to accommodate those who have chosen this lifestyle. Teach them about safe sex, the risks, pros and cons, history even, and the lifestyle for those who (such as yourself) don't understand it.

I don't like studying math in school, but I have to anyway. Math doesn't teach me to not hate people.
 

Kandon Arc

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GothmogII said:
Kandon Arc said:
Darkdawn said:
avidabey said:
Against.

I don't know any gays (admitted gays, that is), and I very much doubt that giving them the ability to marry will change anything, but I do find the idea of our society smiling on it somewhat...off-putting. Approving of something that defies very basic biology doesn't seem like the grandest idea to me. Then again, what with in-vitro and such, that's probably not such a large issue as it once was.

Oh well. Against, still, out of my small-minded stubbornness.
I'm pretty sure BJs aren't part of our biology.
Did he say he condoned them?
No, but he implied that the underlying biology is the be all and end all with regards to sex. I.e. Reproduction only. Don't agree on that though.
This would imply that he doesn't condone BJs as they have no place in reproduction.
 

Mr0llivand3r

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Aschenkatza said:
Mr0llivand3r said:
Aschenkatza said:
Mr0llivand3r said:
i understand, but the fact that some gays even claim to have been born that way means that there are many gays who weren't and became that way. all i'm saying is that since the mind of a small child is must more malleable and shapeable, they MAY end up being another "became that way because of my surroundings" gay person
We'll agree to disagree then. I see what you mean and agree at an extent that this situation could arise, but in general it is unlikely.
However, one way we could regulate such an occurrence is to broaden the knowledge about homosexuality so that it is taught openly in schools. That way even if someone became homosexual because of surroundings then it wouldn't be an issue. After all, how much of a homosexual relationship is different from a heterosexual one? In the end, it is mainly just having sex differently from vaginal intercourse.
wow... a sexual preference taught as a subject in schools... what would this world come to...
Haha, I know what you mean. I'm in a Human Sexuality class in college and my god you should hear what people say to me when I tell them that. I've actually had people start asking me questions related to sex.
Full on Homosexuality classes, people would go NUTS!
It's quite possibly one of the worst ideas i've ever heard. Talk about confusing children...
It's all because of the liberal, "everyone together", "let's all be united", age that we live in.
 

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I really can't relate to people who care about things that other people do, that have no bearing on them at all. It's so alien to me. There really are people sitting around their living room just hating gay people. In what way is that not weird?

By even insinuating that gay people shouldn't have the same rights (e.g. getting married) as you is completely prejudice in every sense of the world. You'd absolutely have to believe that you're somehow superior to them. If they have less rights then you, how is that not making somebody inferior? That's hate. Cowardly hate, since nobody will ever admit to that.

Oh well, just like racism, the haters will eventually die off (not all of them, of course, but enough to have a social impact) and it'll become socially unacceptable to hate that particular group of people (in this case, homosexuals), and then we can find a new group to hate on.

The only thing stupider then the ban on gay marriage is the ban on gays in the military. The "Don't ask, Don't tell" policy was completely idiotic, and turned out to have the opposite effect it was supposed to have. Imagine that.
 

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Mr0llivand3r said:
Aschenkatza said:
Mr0llivand3r said:
Aschenkatza said:
Mr0llivand3r said:
i understand, but the fact that some gays even claim to have been born that way means that there are many gays who weren't and became that way. all i'm saying is that since the mind of a small child is must more malleable and shapeable, they MAY end up being another "became that way because of my surroundings" gay person
We'll agree to disagree then. I see what you mean and agree at an extent that this situation could arise, but in general it is unlikely.
However, one way we could regulate such an occurrence is to broaden the knowledge about homosexuality so that it is taught openly in schools. That way even if someone became homosexual because of surroundings then it wouldn't be an issue. After all, how much of a homosexual relationship is different from a heterosexual one? In the end, it is mainly just having sex differently from vaginal intercourse.
wow... a sexual preference taught as a subject in schools... what would this world come to...
Haha, I know what you mean. I'm in a Human Sexuality class in college and my god you should hear what people say to me when I tell them that. I've actually had people start asking me questions related to sex.
Full on Homosexuality classes, people would go NUTS!
It's quite possibly one of the worst ideas i've ever heard. Talk about confusing children...
It's all because of the liberal, "everyone together", "let's all be united", age that we live in.
What's confusing about it?
This is a man.
This is a woman.
Some men like women.
Some men like men.
Some women like men.
Some women like women.

Yeah. Real confusing.