All for it. It honestly doesn't worry me either way. I have a couple of friends who are gay and it would be fantastic for them. So yep, I think it'd be great.
If you didn't have marriage you'd have to invent it. It is an extremely simple way for two people to pool their collective life resources in a legally binding way without consulting lawyers or faffing about with contracts. Marriage as a religious custom is actually something that came after the original chattel arrangement that originally constituted marriage.Spider Expert said:Marriage is an outdated religious custom that shouldn't be given the dignity of requesting whether it's okay for someone to love each other.
Sorry to burst your bubble, but the studies have already been done. There are no negative side effects from kids being raised by gay parents. And those studies have been done for years. Also, what a horrific concept you are suggesting, "Quick, rip those kids away from those loving homo-parents and put them in some overcrowded orphanage."confernal said:Yes we allow parents not of the norm to raise kids... but in a safe envioremnt. A parent who abuses their kid emotionally or physically usally have their childern taken away to a safer enviorment. No homosexuals will probably not abuse their kids physicallly or emotionally(however like us their could be exceptions) but we must protect the childern from harm even if the harm is completely unintentional and with the intentions of care. A childerns relationship with their parents dramtically influnces their life, and while most of us will be exposed to stimlus like death or other negative influnces not everybody will be exposed to having homosexual parents... While no body is sure yet if there are any effects of such an upbringing all percations must be made for the childern to develope as normal as possible. You wouldn't expose an child to a murder or other negative event since most childern don't... so why POSSIBLY expose them to an negative event that most childern will not have to go through.
Or satanist weddings? Not just Christians have marriage ceremonies, you know.Jim-a-Lim said:The only reason i voted no was because marriage is a christian ceremony
You mean unless they are closely related, or underage, or already married? Yeah.PMetal said:They're still human.
They still have compassion.
They have every right to marry, therefore.
I'm sorry, but I just have to stop you for a second. Christianity (nor judaism, nor any religion) did not create marriage. It's actually pretty hard to tie down the origins of marriage, so there's no reason to assume that it's strictly a religious practice, or that it didn't possibly precede religion (as it's a useful social tool, regardless of religion).Jim-a-Lim said:The only reason i voted no was because marriage is a christian ceremony whereby a man and a woman specifically are meant to be joined by god, but i have no problems with civil ceremonies i guess. Also i am a christian and i have plenty of gay friends, heck my gf's housemate is gay and we hang out alot these days, so please don't think of me as a gay hater![]()
This. I appreciate this. Why would any Christian have any sort of issue with state recognized marriage? After all, they believe the only 'real' marriage is the marriage recognized by their god?JWAN said:It depends on where the Marriage is
If its a state marriage, fine then, I have no issues with it, (I'm Catholic and we believe in marriages only done by priests so they can have all the fake marriages they want, I don't care)
If its in the church it needs to be accepted by the leaders of the church (ex. Catholic church, it needs to be sanctioned by the Pope) If the state forced the church to marry gay people then I am against it because that is violating the separation between church and state.
Well, I don't know you that well but I am flattered you would ask. Perhaps just a date first though then we'll see how it goes.SuperMse said:I am not going to say much, as I do not want to influence your answers. I will say that it is a very important issue to me, and I am doing a school report on it.
Wrong. We do understand what children go through in a gay household.confernal said:Correct we don't know the possible conquences off letting homosexuals rasing childern... but too simply do somthing even though we don't know what will happen has rarely served humanity well in the past(only rarely has somthing good come of this) like using fossil fuels or antibotics. Maybe homosexuals rasing childern will make them more understanding and less stereotypical of what males should do and what females should do, in that case it's a positive force that will improve humanity as a whole... however the opposite end of the spectrum could be true in that the kids could devlope sexual relation problems or could be completely alienated from their own gender... We simply don't have enough data! So instead of leaping into the abyss as we so often do, we should do some long term studies and plan this out to see the effects. I believe if there is more postives then negatives or no negatives at all then go for it... but don't expect me to agree with somthing that we don't understand yet.
It's nice to finally have a poster from hell to clear these things up. Much appreciated.Fondant said:A point I should bring up is that there is currently only one recorded homosexual in hell- Nikolai Ezhov, and he's in there for murdering millions of people under Stalin's rule, not for rampant bum-banditry. If the homosexuals were all to be confined to hell then I'd quite frankly have expected to meet Oscar Wilde by now, and since I haven't I must conclude that he isn't there (or possibly the devil keeps him around to make amusing comments to people while he tortures them, and is hiding him from me). Anyway, Satan insists that there are remarkably few homosexuals in hell, and indeed the only real sexual deivant who is in there is a crossdresser who also happened to be Britain's prime minister for several years.
If you mean Thatcher, you just made my day.Fondant said:A point I should bring up is that there is currently only one recorded homosexual in hell- Nikolai Ezhov, and he's in there for murdering millions of people under Stalin's rule, not for rampant bum-banditry. If the homosexuals were all to be confined to hell then I'd quite frankly have expected to meet Oscar Wilde by now, and since I haven't I must conclude that he isn't there (or possibly the devil keeps him around to make amusing comments to people while he tortures them, and is hiding him from me). Anyway, Satan insists that there are remarkably few homosexuals in hell, and indeed the only real sexual deivant who is in there is a crossdresser who also happened to be Britain's prime minister for several years.