Poll: Gay Marriage
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I said it should be left up to the states. I dont care if gay people want to get married but if they push hard nuff for the states to legalize it, it will happen.
Marriage is a terrible form of torture and gay people shouldn't be exempt from that. The main argument against gay marriage is that marriage is a sacred tradition. Bullshit, whats with all the shows like 'Who wants to marry the Girl" or "The Bachelor" and don't even get me started on divorces. Yeah it was ripped from Chris Rock but its still true.
Don't take my word for it, the closest thing to gay pride I've seen in my area are yaoi fangirls. And we all know their opinion doesn't matter. No offence to all the yaoi fangirls.
Don't take my word for it, the closest thing to gay pride I've seen in my area are yaoi fangirls. And we all know their opinion doesn't matter. No offence to all the yaoi fangirls.
I always wondered if gay guys KNOW they are doing it, or if it just kinda comes with being gay.Trist66 said:
Same thing as what you wank to, as long as you like it noone else should have a say. I'm totally for it.
Hmm thats what i thought, but if they know they do it, then why? Why cast a negative stereotype onto yourself ya know?Trist66 said:
As far as I go I say that marriage via judge, captain, drive-thru are all not legit marriages. Marriage was started by the church and because of the separation between the church and state it cant me mucked with.
Therefore if you get married threw any of those ways listed above and/or to another person of the same sex have fun with your fake marriages. But don't go dinking around with religious beliefs. Let me tell you that the Catholics may be vocal and mostly non-violent, the Muslims are also vocal, but a few of them have mean streaks and know how attack in holy wars, and that's exactly what it would become.
Let people believe what they want but you don't have to screw with peoples ideals. I dont like socialists but you don't see me going to socialist countries and pissing on their political beliefs.
Beliefs are beliefs, let it go.
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Therefore if you get married threw any of those ways listed above and/or to another person of the same sex have fun with your fake marriages. But don't go dinking around with religious beliefs. Let me tell you that the Catholics may be vocal and mostly non-violent, the Muslims are also vocal, but a few of them have mean streaks and know how attack in holy wars, and that's exactly what it would become.
Let people believe what they want but you don't have to screw with peoples ideals. I dont like socialists but you don't see me going to socialist countries and pissing on their political beliefs.
Beliefs are beliefs, let it go.
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To quote a youtube video I saw a few weeks ago, "I don't care if you're gay or straight, as long as your dick's not in my butt."
Marriage is a legal thing. Lots of men and women get married without God, gods, or any sort of religion mentioned at all. Religion in marriage is nothing but an optional decoration on top of what is a secular, state-controlled condition.
I'm reasonably happy with civil unions and marriage, because the legal end is the same. Religious bigots can keep their word "marriage" if it's so important to them, because all they've got is a word. They've not got all the meaning, the status, and everything else that really matters about two people dedicating themselves to each other, which applies as much to civil unions as marriage.
I'm reasonably happy with civil unions and marriage, because the legal end is the same. Religious bigots can keep their word "marriage" if it's so important to them, because all they've got is a word. They've not got all the meaning, the status, and everything else that really matters about two people dedicating themselves to each other, which applies as much to civil unions as marriage.
If gays want to marry let them. Your beliefs shouldnt stand in the of two peoples happiness. And religions against it seem hugely hypocritical to me if they use the logic that God created man in all ways and therefore if a person is born gay would that not be the path God laid for you?
Which religion gets to claim marriage? Cause different ones define it in different ways, and some of them are much older than Christianity. But then again, so is marriage. Which, by the way, is a legal agreement. Otherwise why is it you can get married without a religious ceremony, but you won't be recognized as married in the eyes of the law without a legal agreement?avykins said:
Your singing voice is much different from your speaking voice. I have a lovely singing voice, but I sound like a frog when I speak. A frog that speaks too fast for people to understand. Or, on alternate occasions, a mouse. I can't control it any more than I suspect gay lispers can control their lisp.Trist66 said:
Actually no my good sir. Religion has not always been a religous ceremony. Marriage as you know it didn't become a religious ceremony in Christian churches until the mid 1500's during the spanish inquisition and the reasoning for such was so the church could have more control over people in Europe.avykins said:
Not only that but marriage is something that has been with us since the very first civilization was formed in mesepotamia it is not an invention of any church or religion. Also before and during the early years of the Roman Catholic Church marriage in many places in Europe had nothing to do with the religion. It was simply a union between two people. It involved a private ceremony between the two people, sometimes with others sometimes just themselves, and had no involvement from the Roman Catholic Church whatsoever.
Furthermore no one is saying that your church has to recognise or marry gays. Some churchs DO in fact support gay marriages and are more then happy to have ceremonies for them. It should be their right to host these ceremonies of marriage.
Your argueing over the semantics of the word marriage. You don't own the word marriage. Your church doesn't own the word marriage. Your religion doesn't own the word marriage. The debate here is that you want to impose YOUR beliefs (ie that marriage between same-sex couples is a sin) on others. I'm not saying you have to like it, accept it, be happy about it, or approve of it. Your free to have your beliefs and do as you wish and by the same token gays and churches that offer to marry gays should have that same right. Anything less is discrimination.
Edit: Just to clarify gays are asking for the right to LEGALLY MARRY that means in a courthouse in front of a judge. NO ONE or at least no one serious about the issue is trying to make it so all churchs HAVE to marry gays. We're talking about the right to go to your local courthouse and marry. Although there are plenty of Churches out there that do in fact marry or want to be able to marry gays.
Edit 2: God I think I've repeated the same history regarding Catheiscm like 50 million times throughout this thread today. Funny how people who are staunchly religious don't even know the history of their own religion. (Not directed at the guy I quoted here, just saying whats on my mind)