Poll: How many gamers are non-meat eaters?

[madmatt]

It's a scientific fact that eating meat makes you awesome. I mean, look at T-Rex. Totally badass.

It's also a scientific fact that it shortens your life span.

I don't care if that's actually true or not but it's totally worth it. Not only are veges not eating meat, but they're doing it for even longer? Why would you want to be old for longer? Longer life span is a back-end result, not front-end: you don't get your youth back, you just get older. Enjoy the nursing home, you guys will be there a while.

I'll take a heart attack at 50 over old age.

But then again, I don't believe meat affects your lifespan at all.

but what about the immortality potion inexplicably discovered at age 51? Bet you would feel silly then

EDIT: woops double post my apolagies

 

[Babitz]

You vegetarians, vegans, and whatnot do realize that you're hurting the animals just as much as us omnivores with your lifestyle and diet, right?

 

[MurderousToaster]

I couldn't do without my delicious meats.

I do understand where vegetarians are coming from, however.

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

Well I don't want to bore you with too much information however if you spend some time on: http://www.peta.org/ you can see just how wrong the meat industry is.

Wow, talk about cutting the legs of your on argument by posting a link to PETA's site of all websites. PETA is by far the absolute worst organisation you could ever affiliate yourself with if you actually wish to justify the choice of being a vegetarian or vegan, mainly because they are a bunch of fucking hypocrites who kill plenty of animals themselves.

First of all, I wasn't talking about any "meat industry" I was questioning your statements about you being a "morally superior person" just because you've made a choice not to eat meat. You seem to suffer from the misconception that eating other living animals is inherently "wrong" and you seem to cement this opinion by dragging up irrelevant crap about the meat industry.

For instance how does this meat industry really apply to people who hunt their own food? If my primary meat sources consist of deer and elk which I have shot and killed myself, exactly how do I support the meat industry whose main cattle consists of cows, pigs and poultry? Heck if I hunt my own food, my quarry probably has the best living standards ever compared to even the most free range cattle on the planet, since the animals that hunters kill and eat get to live completely within their natural enviroment.

So what exactly are you trying to argue here, is it that the "meat industry" is inherently "evil" or that the very practice of eating other animals is "evil"? Regardless of which, I feel quite confident that I can smash your arguments to pieces.

Finally, you linking to a PETA website still doesn't prove that yours or even PETA's set of morals is any more "right" than anyone elses set of morals are.

Like I asked you previously: didn't your mother teach you that morals are relative?

 

[Phoenixlight]

Wow, talk about cutting the legs of your on argument by posting a link to PETA's site of all websites. PETA is by far the absolute worst organisation you could ever affiliate yourself with if you actually wish to justify the choice of being a vegetarian or vegan, mainly because they are a bunch of fucking hypocrites who kill plenty of animals themselves.

First of all, I wasn't talking about any "meat industry" I was questioning your statements about you being a "morally superior person" just because you've made a choice not to eat meat. You seem to suffer from the misconception that eating other living animals is inherently "wrong" and you seem to cement this opinion by dragging up irrelevant crap about the meat industry.

For instance how does this meat industry really apply to people who hunt their own food? If my primary meat sources consist of deer and elk which I have shot and killed myself, exactly how do I support the meat industry whose main cattle consists of cows, pigs and poultry? Heck if I hunt my own food, my quarry probably has the best living standards ever compared to even the most free range cattle on the planet, since the animals that hunters kill and eat get to live completely within their natural enviroment.

So what exactly are you trying to argue here, is it that the "meat industry" is inherently "evil" or that the very practice of eating other animals is "evil"? Regardless of which, I feel quite confident that I can smash your arguments to pieces.

Finally, you linking to a PETA website still doesn't prove that yours or even PETA's set of morals is any more "right" than anyone elses set of morals are.

Like I asked you previously: didn't your mother teach you that morals are relative?

Well if P.E.T.A. kills an animal it is to prevent it from suffering any longer. On the whole though, P.E.T.A. is a very good organisation that shows people just how wrong eating meat is. The majority of people who eat meat don't go out hunting themselves they just go to the supermarket and buy factory farmed meat. I still don't agree with taking the life of a wild animal just so that you can have a snack; there are plenty of other things that you could eat instead which don't involve something dying. Eating another living animal is a very primordial thing to do and in today's modern society there?s simply no need to eat meat because food is so easily accessible. And no my mother didn?t say anything like that.

 

[Sakurazaki1023]

Eating meat is murder. Tasty tasty murder.

I mean their is room enough for all of God's creator's. Right beside the mashed potatoes.

If god didn't want us to eat animals than he shouldn't have made them out of meat.

 

[ethaninja]

I'm carnivorous. The last time I even ate anything remotley like salad or fruit was when I was never.

 

[Lerxst]

You vegetarians, vegans, and whatnot do realize that you're hurting the animals just as much as us omnivores with your lifestyle and diet, right?

To humor, or not to humor this statement...?

So tell us, how does us not eating their flesh, wearing their skin, milking their pregnant or eating their unborn harm the animals?

And to quell another argument that people tend to gravitate towards using "fuzzy logic", look at this link carefully. The one commonality between all the crops listed is that most are used for livestock feed. Why grow a grain to feed it to the livestock if we can grow it and feed it to ourselves and cut out the middleman while being able to reclaim the land all the factory farms are now using to support our bad habits?

http://www.epa.gov/oecaagct/ag101/cropmajor.html

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

Well if P.E.T.A. kills an animal it is to prevent it from suffering any longer.

While at the same time you have protesters standing outside animal shelters chastising the staff working at animal shelters for doing THE EXACT SAME FUCKING THING.

Seriously, how did you miss the hypocrisy of the exact same organisation which you praise so dearly? Oh I guess it's the standard human behaviour of people seeing only what they want to see.

On the whole though, P.E.T.A. is a very good organisation that shows people just how wrong eating meat is.

No they haven't. Stop making false claims please, it doesn't further your argument in the slightest.

All PETA has done is to demonstrate certain abuse occuring within the more shifty areas of the meat industry, something which PETA aren't alone in thinking is wrong, because most countries even have laws against cruelty towards animals, even in the meat industry.

That still doesn't mean that it's inherently "wrong" to eat meat, only that sanctimonious members of PETA BELIEVES it to be "wrong" to eat meat.

The majority of people who eat meat don't go out hunting themselves they just go to the supermarket and buy factory farmed meat.

So? It still doesn't prove your point that the practice of eating meat is "wrong" or that it makes you "morally superior" because you yourself refuse to.

I still don't agree with taking the life of a wild animal just so that you can have a snack; there are plenty of other things that you could eat instead which don't involve something dying.

Plants die all the time in order to provide for your vego-diet but for some reason you don't see fit to complain about the death of plants. What makes an animals deaths so "wrong" in comparison to the death of a plant?

Still, im not trying to prevent you from disagreeing. You're welcome to live with a belief that it's wrong to eat animals. The issue I have with you is the fact that you make claims to titles you have no evidence to actually deserve. Calling yourself "morally superior" in comparison to others being one of them. So when you make such obviously false and yet to be proven claims, you have a burden of evidence on you to prove exactly WHY it is inherently wrong to eat meat and why your stance is inherently "morally superior" in comparison to others.

Eating another living animal is a very primordial thing to do and in today's modern society there?s simply no need to eat meat because food is so easily accessible.

So? Fucking is also a pretty primordial thing to do, yet somehow you don't seem to take offense of that good old practice, now do you?

So if the primordial nature of any practice can't really measure how said practice is inherently wrong, what does?

Like I said, you're the one claiming a moral high ground here, hence you're the one having the burden of proof to actually show why you are rightfully entitled to calling yourself "morally superior".

And no my mother didn?t say anything like that.

Im not surprised. You might want to read up on the subject of "morality" before you claim to be "morally superior". Just a friendly tip.

Also, about PETA, here's a few clips of relevance (seriously, these should be mandatory in any thread dealing with any "morally superior" vegetarians):






That's PETA for ya... Still convinced of their "greatness"?

 

[Babitz]

You vegetarians, vegans, and whatnot do realize that you're hurting the animals just as much as us omnivores with your lifestyle and diet, right?

To humor, or not to humor this statement...?

So tell us, how does us not eating their flesh, wearing their skin, milking their pregnant or eating their unborn harm the animals?

And to quell another argument that people tend to gravitate towards using "fuzzy logic", look at this link carefully. The one commonality between all the crops listed is that most are used for livestock feed. Why grow a grain to feed it to the livestock if we can grow it and feed it to ourselves and cut out the middleman while being able to reclaim the land all the factory farms are now using to support our bad habits?

http://www.epa.gov/oecaagct/ag101/cropmajor.html

Speaking of "fuzzy logic", I guess you don't consume fuel, you don't walk on asphalt, you don't use your computer and the fruit you are able to eat was protected from animals by putting "stop" signs?

Also, I guess snakes and rats don't count as animals, since it's okay to smash them during harvesting for the same food you eat. OK, it's not intentional, you say. Yes, it is. As long as you know you're doing it and doing nothing about it.

Vegetarians are hypocrites.

Yes, I am against mistreating animals and I would be glad to personally fork out the eyes of someone who mistreats animals, but holding the moral high ground over not eating animals is both wrong and lame. You still contribute to harming the animals whether you eat them or not, whether you like it or not.

 

[Griphphin]

I'm afraid to fuel my thumbs of ownage, I need MEAT!

 

[willsham45]

The answer to your poll is, "We cannot know how many gamers are vegetarian because this is a voluntary survey based only on the members of the Escapist who chose to view this thread and answer it, and not on the gamer population as a whole" )

dont worry about it. this sort of thing is seam anywhere like when you watch those adverts that go on the lines of, fishermans weekly readers voted super 7 fishing line the best...when in reality the 3 guys to filled in the survey said they buy this brand.
Dont worry about it for it is the case with pretty much every poll on this website.

To the topic...pork, pork, pork, pork!!!

I like meat...especilly pork and beef, roasted in its own juices for an hour or so
on top of that bacon butties, pork baps, chicken melts, ham, black pudding, stuffed lambs heart all good for me.

 

[latenightapplepie]

Vegetarians are hypocrites.

Now come on, don't go inferring that all vegetarians have extreme animal rights views, bash omnivores at every turn, and act morally superior all the time.

Just as you wouldn't want vegetarians to generalise all omnivores as animal-haters, who kick cats and strangle puppies in their spare time, don't then do the same to vegetarians.

 

[Volstag9]

nope meat eater here. I love my steak, fish, chicken, beef, pork, and my personal favorite duck! ... and crab and lobster if that counts.

 

[Housebroken Lunatic]

Yes, I am against mistreating animals and I would be glad to personally fork out the eyes of someone who mistreats animals, but holding the moral high ground over not eating animals is both wrong and lame. You still contribute to harming the animals whether you eat them or not, whether you like it or not.

I wonder if any of these vegetarians perhaps belong to the same group of people who constantly complain about the fact that certain religious groups try to shove their beliefs down the throats of others and constantly ascribe themselves to have the moral highground just because they believe in a yet to be proved mythical diety.

Would be pretty funny if that was the case...

 

[Babitz]

Vegetarians are hypocrites.

Now come on, don't go inferring that all vegetarians have extreme animal rights views, bash omnivores at every turn, and act morally superior all the time.

Just as you wouldn't want vegetarians to generalise all omnivores as animal-haters, who kick cats and strangle puppies in their spare time, don't then do the same to vegetarians.

Yeah, I know. Not all vegetarians are like that, not all christians are pedophiles, etc. My dad doesn't eat meat because he believes he doesn't need it. That's okay with me. I'm okay if someone doesn't eat meat because he feels sorry for the animals. It's just that I'm allergic to all the preaching and the moral superiority. It's as annoying as religious preaching.

 

[weecath77]

You don't make friends with salad.
Meat,meat,meat all the way.

 

[icaritos]

It's a scientific fact that eating meat makes you awesome. I mean, look at T-Rex. Totally badass.

They might actually be vegetarians.

I eat meat whenever its there and I'm in the mood. Die animals! >XD

Scavengers not vegetarian i believe, not sure tho.

Also i live for a piece of good red meat, the less cooked the better *maniacal laughter*

 

[Samcanuck]

Eating meat is murder. Tasty tasty murder.

I mean their is room enough for all of God's creator's. Right beside the mashed potatoes.

If god didn't want us to eat animals than he shouldn't have made them out of meat.

This is truth sir...this is truth.

 

[tim98042]

all i will say is meat, yum yum!!