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IckleMissMayhem

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Restricting your diet to cater to "morality" is unnatural and wrong. We're omnivores for a reason!!

[sub]IMM means to cause no offence to any person who chooses to restrict their diet in this manner, and offers to buy a steak dinner to apologise to anyone who's offended by her comments...[/sub]
 

Sepiida

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IckleMissMayhem said:
Restricting your diet to cater to "morality" is unnatural and wrong. We're omnivores for a reason!!
I would like you to think very hard about what you just said and then read the rest of my post.

The only reason we are omnivores is because that is a feature that helped our ancestors to survive. Evolution makes no moral judgments and therefore you cannot say that just because we evolved a certain way that it is moral. By doing so, and by condemning vegetarianism as unnatural, you're commiting a naturalism fallacy.

Furthermore your argument that we should not restrict our actions (such as our diets) to conform to our morality is horrible. That's the whole point of having morality, to tell us what actions are moral and which are immoral. By your own logic people should not restrict themselves from stealing and murder just because of "morality." We can argue whether or not vegetarians have a logical moral framework but that is another debate entirely.
 

SomethingUnrelated

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... Are you expecting to see some sort of correlation here?

I'm on a NORMAL diet, and that's the way I'm going to stay. Killing animals for food , and other reasons, is only natural. Also, meat is an essential part of the human diet. That Quorn shite doesn't cover it nearly as well as you might think.
 

teisjm

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Me and the rabbits have an understandment, i don't eat their food, and they don't eat mine.

People don't eat vegetables, food-to-be eats vegetables.
 

Doc Incognito

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It's a scientific fact that eating meat makes you awesome. I mean, look at T-Rex. Totally badass.
It's also a scientific fact that it shortens your life span.

Although I'm not one to talk. Fried rice and hibachi filet mignon is my favorite meal. (But I also have hibachi vegetables with that).
 

IckleMissMayhem

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Sepiida said:
IckleMissMayhem said:
Restricting your diet to cater to "morality" is unnatural and wrong. We're omnivores for a reason!!
I would like you to think very hard about what you just said and then read the rest of my post.

The only reason we are omnivores is because that is a feature that helped our ancestors to survive. Evolution makes no moral judgments and therefore you cannot say that just because we evolved a certain way that it is moral.
I'm not. I'm saying it's natural. You need to come down off your pedestal and actually read MY post again, because you obviously don't understand the point I'm making.
Oh, and how exactly are stealing and murder on a par with eating meat? Because you seem to be claiming that both are. Just curious!!
 

Sepiida

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IckleMissMayhem said:
Sepiida said:
IckleMissMayhem said:
Restricting your diet to cater to "morality" is unnatural and wrong. We're omnivores for a reason!!
I would like you to think very hard about what you just said and then read the rest of my post.

The only reason we are omnivores is because that is a feature that helped our ancestors to survive. Evolution makes no moral judgments and therefore you cannot say that just because we evolved a certain way that it is moral.
I'm not. I'm saying it's natural. You need to come down off your pedestal and actually read MY post again, because you obviously don't understand the point I'm making.
Oh, and how exactly are stealing and murder on a par with eating meat? Because you seem to be claiming that both are. Just curious!!
Next time please quote my whole post. I reiterate that just because something is natural does not mean it is good. Smallpox is natural yet you don't see too many people saying we shouldn't eradicate small pox.

As per my comment about stealing, murder and meat eating I was applying you logic and taking it to it's natural conclusion. Reductio ad absurdum.
 

IckleMissMayhem

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Sepiida said:
IckleMissMayhem said:
Sepiida said:
IckleMissMayhem said:
Restricting your diet to cater to "morality" is unnatural and wrong. We're omnivores for a reason!!
I would like you to think very hard about what you just said and then read the rest of my post.

The only reason we are omnivores is because that is a feature that helped our ancestors to survive. Evolution makes no moral judgments and therefore you cannot say that just because we evolved a certain way that it is moral.
I'm not. I'm saying it's natural. You need to come down off your pedestal and actually read MY post again, because you obviously don't understand the point I'm making.
Oh, and how exactly are stealing and murder on a par with eating meat? Because you seem to be claiming that both are. Just curious!!
Next time please quote my whole post. I reiterate that just because something is natural does not mean it is good. Smallpox is natural yet you don't see too many people saying we shouldn't eradicate small pox.

As per my comment about stealing, murder and meat eating I was applying you logic and taking it to it's natural conclusion. Reductio ad absurdum.
Hardly. What you were doing was wilfully misunderstanding my point, or simply twisting my words to try and discredit my beliefs on the subject.
 

Artina89

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I eat meat for most of my meals (except breakfast). Its a good source of protein. I will eat vegetables, but I can get bored of them quite quickly.
 

Sepiida

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IckleMissMayhem said:
Sepiida said:
IckleMissMayhem said:
Sepiida said:
IckleMissMayhem said:
Restricting your diet to cater to "morality" is unnatural and wrong. We're omnivores for a reason!!
I would like you to think very hard about what you just said and then read the rest of my post.

The only reason we are omnivores is because that is a feature that helped our ancestors to survive. Evolution makes no moral judgments and therefore you cannot say that just because we evolved a certain way that it is moral.
I'm not. I'm saying it's natural. You need to come down off your pedestal and actually read MY post again, because you obviously don't understand the point I'm making.
Oh, and how exactly are stealing and murder on a par with eating meat? Because you seem to be claiming that both are. Just curious!!
Next time please quote my whole post. I reiterate that just because something is natural does not mean it is good. Smallpox is natural yet you don't see too many people saying we shouldn't eradicate small pox.

As per my comment about stealing, murder and meat eating I was applying you logic and taking it to it's natural conclusion. Reductio ad absurdum.
Hardly. What you were doing was wilfully misunderstanding my point, or simply twisting my words to try and discredit my beliefs on the subject.
Your original post said "Restricting your diet to cater to "morality" is unnatural and wrong."
Morality is what causes us to restrict some actions and not others. By saying that restricting one action due to morality is wrong you really have no reason to say that restricting other actions because of morality is right. As such you seem to be saying that restricting any action, like stealing and murder, due to morality is wrong. Again, reductio ad absurdum.

And yes, I am trying to discredit your beliefs. That's the point of debate. No personal offense intended.
 

SonicKoala

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Meat is delicious, and it makes meal times far more pleasurable. Furthermore, certain vitamins in red meat, such as vitamin B12, can ONLY be found in red meat. Therefore, even if Vegans claim they won't eat any animal by-products (such as vitamin supplements, derived from animals), they're actually forced to if they want to... you know, live.

Eating meat is a perfectly natural thing that is beneficial to your health. Of course, I eat far more than I actually need, but that goes back to my first point - it's so fucking good. I find that even the most educated vegetarians ultimately fall back on the "oh my god, poor cows" argument as to why they don't eat meat.
 

Zannah

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I'm vegetarian (meaning no meat / fish, eggs and cheese and the likes are ok)

Thing is - when I see a fat, ugly, sweaty, overall somewhat disguting cow on open farmland - where exactly do I want to eat it? I've never quite grasped the appeal of stuffing dead animal into ones mouth (which led to quite some discussions with my mother).
 

The Great JT

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Don't you know anything?! You must eat the flesh of your enemy to gain their strength! Cutting their heads off nets you their soul, eating their hearts equals their tasty, tasty courage and drinking their blood turns you into an unholy fiend.

 

Doc Incognito

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Marq said:
Doc Incognito said:
Marq said:
It's a scientific fact that eating meat makes you awesome. I mean, look at T-Rex. Totally badass.
It's also a scientific fact that it shortens your life span.
I don't care if that's actually true or not but it's totally worth it. Not only are veges not eating meat, but they're doing it for even longer? Why would you want to be old for longer? Longer life span is a back-end result, not front-end: you don't get your youth back, you just get older. Enjoy the nursing home, you guys will be there a while.

I'll take a heart attack at 50 over old age.

But then again, I don't believe meat affects your lifespan at all.
You'll notice that I said "not that I am one to talk" and proceeded to talk about steak. I'm not an advocate of vegetarianism; I'm merely stating a fact.