Poll: If you could know your baby's sexual orientation...

[The Austin]

Yup. If you are just a regular dude, don't wear pink, don't cross your legs, and don't flick you wrist, your fine with me.

I wear pink, brings out my eyes, and I cross my legs because its rude and poor etiquete to show the soles of your shoes to someone when you do the manly cross legged thing.

You know what I mean. If you don't run around acting like Cris Crocker, than you are all right with me mah friend.

Yeah I know, I'm just picking out your comment because of you wanting to forcefully change a child's orientation.

This is one of those "pro choice" versus "pro life" arguments in all but name, taking the ability to be your own person as you grow up because the previous generations beliefs, its pretty poor and makes me despair for the human race when I think about too hard.

Luckily for me, I don't think that hard.

Heh. I guess you're right.

I suppose I shouldn't chance mah child's orientation, but.... I think I would have to, ya know?
I don't know....

So you aren't gay are you?

I just figured since you refuted with the whole "leg crossing thing" that you might be...

 

[Daniel Cygnus]

Eight people voted for "I am straight and I would change the genes to be straight".

Disgusting.

It's not a homophobia thing for me, it's more of a parenting choice. I honestly think I'd be a better parent to a straight child than a gay one (easier to relate to, easier to give advice to, etc.)

 

[The Austin]

You know what I mean. If you don't run around acting like Cris Crocker, than you are all right with me mah friend.

Do you have a problem with girls that act that way too?

HELL YEA! I don't want my girls to act like Chris Crocker!

 

[KaiRai]

I don't care what sexuality my kid is as long as it doesn't cause him to fuck up in life.
So I wouldn't change the genes.

Yeah I agree. It's not the gay or straight genes I'm worried about. It's the "possible drug taking, prostitution" genes I'm more worried about.

Quite honestly? Yeah it affects me a little because I'm old fashioned and want the family name to carry on etc. But then, I'm about 90% sure gay people can adopt now, so it wouldn't matter.

 

[Lordpils]

Eight people voted for "I am straight and I would change the genes to be straight".

Disgusting.

Don't jump the gun there buddy,

I always jump the gun, it's just what I do.

Want children with the same genes.
Don't want their children to be picked on for their orientation.

People get picked on for being a different race, religion, etc. If you could, would you change any of those?

Maybe they just want that awkward father-son moment where you go to the mall and check out women and the father is really vocal, but the son is embarrassed and constantly saying "Dad people can hear us." and "Dad people are looking at us."

*shrugs*
Basically, they want a kid they can relate to? Good fucking luck.

I didn't say I agreed (once again I have no interest in changing how my child comes out) with their decisions, just that I could understand them and that I think it's a bad idea to assume someone picked to make their child straight because they dislike homosexuals. The third idea was just there because I couldn't think of an actual third so I came up with an amusing one.

 

[DigitalSushi]

You know what I mean. If you don't run around acting like Cris Crocker, than you are all right with me mah friend.

Do you have a problem with girls that act that way too?

Huge ass post

Never said it was a choice, but I am weary of the claim that it's genetic.

Secondly, San Francisco (I'll assume you're talking about SF, your post was kinda all over the place) was/is gay and full of gay men because it has historically been an enviroment more accepting of homosexual practises. Most gay men who live and lived there were migrants from other more religious and socially conservative states who came there so that they could meet more men like themselves and lead a happy openly gay life.

And my name is fine as it is.

how cool was it? my huge ass post, first time I take shit seriously and I don't know how to communicate! whoop whoop.

On a serious note, I believe it is genetic not in terms of DNA because if that was the case then homosexuality would die within one generation what with girls and boys not being able to pro create with the same sex. But there is something there such as hormones which is influenced by genetics (don't deny it!) that turn people, I find it hard to believe when I hear straight people (or Heties as me and my gay mates call us) that sexuality is a choice when the huge majority of gay people I meet all say ... "I've always liked boys" or "ive always liked girls"

My friend when coming out of the closet to his mother said "mum, I have something to tell you, I'm gay"
her reply was
"yeah I know, I've known since you was 6"

How can a 6 year old choose sexuality?, certain envorimental factors when older yes, but at 6 years old? in a house old that listens to Heavy Metal?, thats hormones and genetics doing there bit!.

 

[DigitalSushi]

Heh. I guess you're right.

I suppose I shouldn't chance mah child's orientation, but.... I think I would have to, ya know?
I don't know....

So you aren't gay are you?

I just figured since you refuted with the whole "leg crossing thing" that you might be...

No i'm bisexual, but the leg crossing thing has nothing to do with sexual orientation and everything to do with etiquette, you see showing the sole of your shoes to someone means your showing the dirt you walk over to them.... meaning that you don't think much of them and that your willing for them to see the shit you walk over.... like they are dirt.

 

[CrystalShadow]

Sexuality isn't something in your genes. If that was the case the so called "homosexual" gene would've died out ages ago.

And no, I wouldn't change it.

You'd think so, but a gene only dies out if it has disadvantages that outweigh the advantages.

There's a gene prevalent in Africa where one copy leads to a resistance to Malaria, while two copies leads to sickle cell anaemia, which is very bad for anyone to have, especially without good health care available.
The point being, malaria resistance saves more lives than sickle cell Anaemia kills people, hence the gene for it survives.

The most prevalent theory for the 'gay' gene links it to increased fertility in women. So, while it reduces the offspring of any gay children, this is more than compensated for by the increased number of children born to women with this gene.

Simple really, but not immediately obvious. For a similar reason, we have a 50/50 split of male and female, even though reproductively it would be more efficient to have more women than men...

 

[The Austin]

Heh. I guess you're right.

I suppose I shouldn't chance mah child's orientation, but.... I think I would have to, ya know?
I don't know....

So you aren't gay are you?

I just figured since you refuted with the whole "leg crossing thing" that you might be...

No i'm bisexual, but the leg crossing thing has nothing to do with sexual orientation and everything to do with etiquette, you see showing the sole of your shoes to someone means your showing the dirt you walk over to them.... meaning that you don't think much of them and that your willing for them to see the shit you walk over.... like they are dirt.

Have you ever felt bad for being the way you are?

I wouldn't want to put my kid through anything he might hate himself over...

 

[The Infamous Scamola]

how cool was it? my huge ass post, first time I take shit seriously and I don't know how to communicate! whoop whoop.

On a serious note, I believe it is genetic not in terms of DNA because if that was the case then homosexuality would die within one generation what with girls and boys not being able to pro create with the same sex. But there is something there such as hormones which is influenced by genetics (don't deny it!) that turn people, I find it hard to believe when I hear straight people (or Heties as me and my gay mates call us) that sexuality is a choice when the huge majority of gay people I meet all say ... "I've always liked boys" or "ive always liked girls"

My friend when coming out of the closet to his mother said "mum, I have something to tell you, I'm gay"
her reply was
"yeah I know, I've known since you was 6"

How can a 6 year old choose sexuality?, certain envorimental factors when older yes, but at 6 years old? in a house old that listens to Heavy Metal?, thats hormones and genetics doing there bit!.

As I said before, I think sexuality is a combination of various things, but yeah, saying that sexuality is a choice is just absurd.

 

[jamesworkshop]

I doubt its a simple as genetics since there is no genetic code that we know of that makes people prefer Jazz over classical music but at the same time it does appear that homosexuals know from a very young age of their attraction long before they even know what sex is or gone through puberty so its doubtfull that its a consious choice also the fact that hetrosexuals don't seem to choose its just how they are.

One thing that has alwaysed puzzeled me about homosexuals is if we take it as choice then why, as sure people do look different but when it comes down to it on a basic level men look like other men and women look like other women so I don't see where any fasination can be found when a mirror provides the same effect.
Men and Women do look different and we can clearly see that people are quite interested in those differences, Breasts for example are often empahised due to them being such a distinct difference between men and women.

 

[DigitalSushi]

Have you ever felt bad for being the way you are?

I wouldn't want to put my kid through anything he might hate himself over...

Yes, I've felt bad about something and thats the racism I've suffered, because I didn't understand it but that was when I was young....

the sexuality thing comes alot later and the confusion you suffer within yourself is nothing bad, its merely confusion. And when your older the sexuality thing is tiny, the only thing that can bother you is people you can actually sidestep.

Its not to say you should sidestep them, such as you and I, I could have ignored you but I didn't. And so could our resident archetype sex god SCAM (whose totally straight), we both made the choice to take your comments head on.

So in short, no, children do not feel bad for their sexuality, its who they are.

 

[DigitalSushi]

As I said before, I think sexuality is a combination of various things, but yeah, saying that sexuality is a choice is just absurd.

Your spot on, like all that shit I said but without all that mind wondering thing I do, I have a total man crush on you.

What are you doing later on?, I want you to have my children!

seriously, take them off me, they are little shits.

 

[A.I. Sigma]

Where is the option for the fact Homosexuality is a choice, not a matter genes.
EDIT: Ok perhaps it is genes, but people can overcome genes.

You mean like the same way people can alter a gene to naturally change their eye colour or hair colour without any man-made help? Or maybe alter their peak height?

No. just no. Genes cannot be overcome. They are the building blocks of you, and are set in stone. You cannot change the permanent parts of your genetic makeup, no matter what anyone says. Gay is not a choice, and if I could overcome it, I would. I dislike being the controvesy of society, the person stared at in the street whenever I hold my partner's hand or kiss them.

If I could choose to be straight, or overcome it somehow, I would...but I can't. It's like me telling you to overcome your straightness. You just can't do it.

To answer the question, I would have my child straight. Less difficulties for them in later life, judging by the standards of the past and of today (because today's standards aren't perfect).

 

[chronobreak]

Because nobody would choose to have sexual feelings that could get him or her harassed or attacked, and the scientific consensus is that it's genetic?

I knew plenty of people in high school who "became" gay because they didn't fit in, and they wanted to belong to some sort of social group, so in many cases it can be a choice. I've also known girls who had bad experience with men, and decided to become lesbians. It can be a choice.

 

[WrongSprite]

Eight people voted for "I am straight and I would change the genes to be straight".

Disgusting.

Why? It'd make life a lot easier. If my child is gay, I wouldn't care. But given the opportunity to change before they're even born? Why not.

At least back up your point before making an inflammatory remark.

 

[A Raging Emo]

I don't know. If I myself was choosing, I wouldn't change the Baby's genes, but I would consult with whomever I had the baby with first.

 

[USSR]

I'd have a straight baby.

I have nothing against homosexuality, but they'd go through a tough childhood, and I wouldn't want that =/

 

[Evilbunny]

I'd love my kid regardless, but one can't deny that it is easier to be a heterosexual in our society than a homosexual. I don't have anything against homosexuals, but I would rather my child have an easier time in life. It would be the same thing if I had a son with a black woman but I could make him look completely white. I'd do it in a second. Not because I think white people are superior or anything, but it's just impossible to deny that it is easier for white people in our society.

 

[laura3lizab3th]

i'm going to agree with an earlier post and say i wouldnt want to know the orientation, i want my kid to be able to come out themselves and more importantly, be themselves.
I'd love them no matter how they turned out.