Poll: Is atheism a religion/ the first amendment

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Ace of Spades

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Johnn Johnston said:
Atheism isn't a religion in the same way that being bald isn't a hairstyle.

However, it requires protection in that one should not be forced to hold religious beliefs, nor should it be repressed.
What about having a shaved head?
 

Shadedblade

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In the first amendment, it specifically mentions freedom from religion, so whether Atheism is a religion or not does not matter, except perhaps with public funding.
 

Silly_Billy

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eels05 said:
I'm not American so bear with me on this.
Dosen't your constitution say something about freedom from religion as well as freedom of religion.
If so then technically isn't it already covered?
Just asking here.I could have that completley wrong I realize.
Nope. Never says freedom from religion. But it does have an article saying any fundamental right not listed is also covered.
 

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Atheism is not a religion other than it's an ideal or belief/lack of belief. It is not, however, generally organized as most conventional religions are. I would say that the part of the first amendment where it talks about freedom of speech completely applies to atheism.
 

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Glefistus said:
I am so sick of people calling atheism a religion, and evolution a belief. Those people should go die in a hole
Evolution is a belief, though. It's also justified and true-- which means it's knowledge.
 

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Atheism very well could become its own religion some day. But it seems a lot of atheists are evangelical atheists who condemn religion for trying to expand there relgion while spreading atheism without even a tad bit of Irony.
 

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DragonLord_Z said:
Almost not a religion then. However, I would assume the Thomas Jefferson would have made sure there was something in there about Atheism, considering he was, in fact, was an Atheist.
actually he wasn't an atheist, he believed in a god

it seems people don't know the difference between atheisim and agnosticism

atheisim is a belief that there is no god

agnosticism is an indifference to the belief in one particular god, ie you believe in a god but not the Jewish/Christian/Islamic or any other type. it is also that you don't care if there is one or there isn't.

too many people don't know the difference between the two of them and often confuse the two
 

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I personally think it's a religion. Christianity is a religion, Atheism is a religion or lack thereof. Blue is a color, black is a color or lack thereof. But that's just me. I suppose the counter argument to that is black is not technically a color. So go ahead and debate it(kindly) but I think Atheism is a religion.
What definition of religion are you going by? Would you therefore agree that Christianity is a type of atheism?
dude, black is a color, so that was a really bad example.

most of them i KNOW (keyword there) are just lazy. I tried to talk to them about it, but they just don't want to get involved with any religions, not that the have a problem with any of them.
 

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Sightless Wisdom said:
Religion:
1. Belief in and reverence for a supernatural power or powers regarded as creator and governor of the universe.
2. A personal or institutionalized system grounded in such belief and worship.

Atheism:
1. Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods.
2. The doctrine that there is no God or gods.

There, those are called definitions. Anyone who thinks atheism is a religion, clearly doesn't understand them.
Your definition of religion is rather shortened. You left a lot out to make your point.

Religion:
something one believes in and follows devotedly
a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons
the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices

Atheism is a philosophy. However many atheists treat it like a religion. As I said before, if you don't want atheism to be called a religion, then don't act religious in your practice. Certainly don't mimic fundamentalists of other religions.
 

Kriptonite

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bjj hero said:
A lack of war (peace) is still a war = A lack of religion (atheism) is still a religion.

You are playing word games.
A lack of war(peace) is still a war, just a different kind of war. Like Atheism is a different kind of religion.
 

Shock and Awe

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By definition it is a religion, but it is not in practice. But it deserves the same protection other religions get.
 

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Zefar said:
Taerdin said:
DragonLord_Z said:
I'm an Atheist as well. Religion by definition is:

" A set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs."

Almost not a religion then. However, I would assume the Thomas Jefferson would have made sure there was something in there about Atheism, considering he was, in fact, was an Atheist.
A set of beliefs concerning it? Atheists hold the belief that there is no God... so... religion?

Can I have a cookie niao?
But you need the rest.
Like
1: A holy book. (We don't have one)
2: Set of special rules. (We don't have any special ones. We just follow the laws of the country.)
3: A God
4: A way of life. (Telling what you should do when something happen)
5: Purpose of life. (Why you are on earth to begin with.)

Now if Atheism is classified as a religion. I'm gonna go ahead and classify, gaming, golf, soccer, hockey, football, driving, sleeping, murder and pretty much anything you can do.

Because by you anything that doesn't have a god is enough to be a Religion.

Atheism will NEVER be a religion. How many times do we have to say it? :/

I can be called a belief system. Because we believe there is no God/Gods. But that's as far as it goes.
Calm down! I was just showing how his specific proof didn't show that, because by what he cited it clearly would be considered one. I don't know where you got your handy checklist of what makes a belief system considered a religion from, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and say its from a credible source you just forgot to cite. Oh and I'll also overlook your spiel on 'gaming golf soccer' etc, because clearly you could not have thought that was a compelling arguement... I mean... that must have been a joke right? None of those things are belief systems (which you admit atheism and other religions are) so that comparison is simply... ridiculous!

I seriously didn't mean for you to flip out on me like this. Clearly you have issues with the word 'religion' being associated with you, and I didn't mean to upset you. Please calm down! I'll even let you have my cookie :D
 

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Atheism isn't a religion, but a belief. Which when you think about it, every religion is a belief so would that make Atheism a religion then?

Whatever, Atheism, Christianity, Buddhism, whatever. The constitution says you can believe in whatever dopey shit you wish.
 

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I know an atheist or two, none of them seem to say it's a religion, since they say atheism is at it's core the LACK of religious beliefs, so no, it's not a religion. But it IS still free speech, I have no right to tell them they're bad for it, and really no one else does . . . just because it's not a well documented "major faith" doesn't mean it isn't free speech
 

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Believe what you want. If someone doesn't agree with your belief, it is their right to tell you that they don't agree, even hate you because of it, but it is your right to disagree and hate them right back. As long as you don't actively interfere with someone else's belief (which includes harassing them with pamphlets about the FSM as they get off the plane at airports) and don't break any of your regular laws, murder, theft, assault, etc, you can do whatever you like.
 

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Mikkaddo said:
I know an atheist or two, none of them seem to say it's a religion, since they say atheism is at it's core the LACK of religious beliefs, so no, it's not a religion. But it IS still free speech, I have no right to tell them they're bad for it, and really no one else does . . . just because it's not a well documented "major faith" doesn't mean it isn't free speech
Oh, you most assuredly have a right to tell them that they're bad for it. You just don't have a right to ban it.
 

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Seanchaidh said:
Mikkaddo said:
I know an atheist or two, none of them seem to say it's a religion, since they say atheism is at it's core the LACK of religious beliefs, so no, it's not a religion. But it IS still free speech, I have no right to tell them they're bad for it, and really no one else does . . . just because it's not a well documented "major faith" doesn't mean it isn't free speech
Oh, you most assuredly have a right to tell them that they're bad for it. You just don't have a right to ban it.
Good point, but I'm of an "alternate faith" myself, so I catch hell for it. I hate the idea of putting someone down for what they believe, so I really don't think it's right. But I'd fight for the right to free speech regardless. I don't agree with calling a person bad for it, but that's part of life.
 

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Atheism is not a religion. I don't know who decided it was, but he was an idiot.

And the first amendment applies to [b/]everyone[/b] not just religions.
 

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Mikkaddo said:
Seanchaidh said:
Mikkaddo said:
I know an atheist or two, none of them seem to say it's a religion, since they say atheism is at it's core the LACK of religious beliefs, so no, it's not a religion. But it IS still free speech, I have no right to tell them they're bad for it, and really no one else does . . . just because it's not a well documented "major faith" doesn't mean it isn't free speech
Oh, you most assuredly have a right to tell them that they're bad for it. You just don't have a right to ban it.
Good point, but I'm of an "alternate faith" myself, so I catch hell for it. I hate the idea of putting someone down for what they believe, so I really don't think it's right. But I'd fight for the right to free speech regardless. I don't agree with calling a person bad for it, but that's part of life.
I guess I should clarify, though: the government cannot officially tell us that atheism (or christianity etc.) makes a person bad either, or teach that in schools, or whatever.