Poll: is camping ok?

[goater24]

For those of us that play with mates and are genrally considered a third wheel. Camping is the perfect way to assist a good team. I am not the greatest on the ol pc but do like to be a sneaky ass camper to get my kill ratio up and help to direct traffic. I wouldn't advocate spawn camping though as it ruins games, can anyone explain why one would do that????

 

[USSR]

only sniper's should be allowed to camp

That, my friend, would be called sniping, not camping.

 

[Pingrash]

The only time it bothers me is when the enemy camps near your spawn.

dont go near world at war.
spawn camping is the ONLY strategy in EVERY map on that game

Oh joy, another reason why I don't want to by that game.

 

[Kiefer13]

There's nothing wrong with camping, it is a perfectly valid tactic. Especially in games like COD4 or the Battlefield series where running out in the open will see you killed in seconds.

This is especially true with snipers. It's basically their job to find a nice spot and sit there picking off enemies. A sniper that moves every couple of minutes will just be killed horribly by someone wielding an assault rifle or similar.

I personally play as a sniper or long-range marksman type quite often in games like COD and Battlefield, and nothing is more irritating than sniping the same person who was stupid enough to try and run past your field of fire for the 10th time that match only to get gunned down again and then shout something like "OMG NOOB CAMPER!" Well, I'm sorry, but if you can't learn to not go back to the same place you've just been killed ten times in a row at, or notice the person whos been sitting in the same spot for ten minutes, well then it is YOU sir that is the "noob", and if you have the audacity to try and call me a cheater for hindering my own mobility, I will very quickly lose any respect I had for you.

In my experience at least, camping effectively takes the same amount of skill as running about everywhere as well. You have to continually check your flanks to make sure that no-one is sneaking up on you with a knife, and you have to be on the watch for counter-snipers that may be lurking below waiting for you to fire and reveal yourself.

Now, I agree that those that sit in the exact spot for the entire match even if there are no enemies in that area can be annoying. Whenever I'm camping and havn't had any activity for a few minutes, I go to find a new spot closer to the action from where I can support the rest of my team. For example, in BF2142 the action regularly moves around the map as your team captures and loses command points. I may camp somewhere near the first neutral point at the beginning of the match for a few minutes to watch over it and snipe any enemies that try to cap it before the rest of my team get there, and then once it's secure I'll move on and find another spot near an enemy CP where I can snipe any enemies guarding it and allow it's capture.

I do of course recognize that a lot of players find camping annoying, but I really don't get it. Spawn-camping yes, that is terrible, and I've been on the brunt of it many times in certain matches of COD4, but in general I don't know why people find camping so bad.

 

[BenMcMichael]

Campers: do you really need to play a FPS? Or will a hunting simulation do? If your camping to maximise kills, go play a sim. If your camping to minimise deaths, GO FOR A RUN YOU SOFTY! Snipers are the worst. If you pride yourself on having a Golden Light Fifty in CoD4, you are the worst type of person to play with: un-fun. I play for fun. I'd like to think everyone else does too. Campers rob people of fun. Wanna shoot targets all day long? Fine by me: just don't use me as rifle practice becouse you're too selfish to play a game that will satisfy your needs.

Golden light fifty? dragunov? well i'll be honest i do camp from time to time as i snipe on every game i can. But hell in my team and clan, we have players, really good players who run around with smgs, assualt rifles, lmgs, (i can use these guns as well so if sniping ain't working i will change) so if i want to snipe with my team that choice should surely be upto me. And as for stratagy with a sniper, realisticly do you expect a sniper to be at the front of a group running and gunning? No, no you do not, thats why they have the range and precision. If my team needs covering i get nice and cosy and cover them. If some1 is planting at an objective guess what, i cover them, If im the only guy alive, guess what, i hide and crawl in the grass with my suit on and kill some1, take their gun, and kill the others.

Just becuase you don't have the patience or mentallity to be a team player who takes things slower and isn't the star of the show don't ***** about how others play.

 

[BenMcMichael]

Sorry about this voted yes, didn't realize it was about in game camping, I thought it was about camping in real life (which is awesome).

On that basis i applaud you

 

[Eric the Orange]

Yeah, how dare they take there tent into the wilderness!

But in all seriousness camping can be annoting as hell if the level and game are disinged in such a way were its almost impossible to get to the person with out them getting good hits on you.

If the game is disinged well then there shouldent be any places that are that cant be attacked easily if some one waits for you to come to them.

 

[orangebandguy]

each to their own i say.

let the campers have their rights to pitch tents

 

[Tony Grande]

There's always a way to get the campers out of their tents. I don't mind campers, I prefer to run around guns blazin', at which I'm pretty effective. But the fun is also in getting a sniper/camper from their hiding (after having been killed by them a couple of times)!

 

[Doug]

Spawn Camping ---- not ok
Regular Camping --- ok!

 

[L33tsauce_Marty]

What do you define camping? Sitting in a place for 30 sec or the entire match?

 

[Cowabungaa]

Depends really, take Counterstrike for example: in a bomb-map, it's ok for the ct's to camp. Afterall, they need to defend the bomb sites. Same with terrorists on hostage maps. But I am really annoyed when terrorists go 'roof camping' in the nuke map. Especially when I'm a terrorist myself, because it's an insta-loose round, and also as a ct when my teammates are dumb enough to hunt for them.
But spawn camping is shit no matter what, glad I'm not playing WaW then.

 

[Brokkr]

I don't have a problem with camping. There are always ways to counter it, especially in games like COD 4 where there is a kill cam to see where they are and grenades to throw.

 

[videot76]

That depends on the game, I guess.
For instance, in a game like Saint's Row 2 (where you can spray a certain tag to stealth your team) it drains ALL FUN out out the game when one team make themselves essentially invisible and then leaves a guy (sometimes even TWO, just in case) with a rocket launcher there - to make sure the other team is at a perpetual disadvantage and open for all kinds of ganking.
Sure it's effective, but it's by no means fun. Tactics don't work on people who can see you coming from several hundred yards away on the radar and step behind a convenient crate until they can circle to blow you up. So yeah, in a game like that it annoys the hell out of me.

In my limited experience with online FPS, camping didn't annoy me. Neither did it back in the days of Goldeneye - yes, it was used on that one as well if you don't remember
As long as it can be countered with strategy, it's OK.

 

[MattyDienhoff]

'Camping' in video games is a very ill-defined concept. Especially 'spawn camping'. I always understood 'spawn camping' to be staying in a location that allows you to shoot people as they spawn or as they exit their spawn zone. In the former case, the abruptness of it means the spawning target has no time to react and fight back, while in the latter case, the spawning target is attacked as they leave spawn and have less room to maneuver. The former is more common, as the latter is fairly easy to prevent with good map design. An example of a spawn killer by this definition is some prick I encountered in Call of Duty 4 who hid behind a barrel aiming at a spawn spot, shooting people the instant they respawned. It's not a particularly effective tactic, since it's certain that whoever is killed by that method will try and get revenge, but it's still frustrating to be killed so unfairly.

That definition makes the most sense to me, but I've seen a lot of people in CoD4 (not so much in other games) defining 'spawn camping' as staying where you spawn or moving only a short distance from where you spawn to find the nearest hiding place. That makes no sense to me, that's just camping, where you spawn has nothing to do with it.

So, depending on the game, stopping in any location for up to a minute or so is fine. Finding a cozy corner and staying there for the entire round or until you die is not, unless you're actually achieving something by doing so rather than just waiting for the occasional target to stumble by. In an area domination game mode (like in Red Orchestra) camping in a particular spot is unacceptable unless you're in the objective defending it or just outside of the objective somehow preventing enemies from reaching it.

 

[Jharry5]

Camping to snipe is fine by me. It can be really useful to have a good marksman on the team. Personally, I'd rather be part of a good sniper battle than a ground fire-fight, but that's just me...

What is not okay is camping by a spawn area, or exploiting glitches in a game to get to an unreachable area (CoD5 or TF2). That is as cheap as it comes in my opinion.

 

[VaioStreams]

The only time it bothers me is when the enemy camps near your spawn.

Otherwise I think it can be a smart strategy. Depending on the situation of course.

agreed. spawn campers show a complete disrespect for the game and often times show the lest skill of anyone playing.

But i have no problem with it other wise. if the other team's strategy is to run like dumb asses all solo and there's 2 or more of you just waiting to gun down said dumb ass. then camp. In some games like MGO it's almost necessary to camp

 

[Ionami]

lol

What was the point of this? Just to bump your thread up?

OT:

I think it's fine. Especially for snipers. Unless you're playing a game where you're able to camp a respawn point. That's kinda lame to do to someone. In any other situation though, it's fine.

It's also kickass when you manage to KILL a camper who's been scoring points off of you for a while.

 

[KissofKetchup]

I say yes because I find it more fun to play defense and camping is that.

 

[Fronken]

irl im a camper (trailers and tents) but in game i think its just weak