Well, I know that's a screenshot from a room in Half Life. But I know that the car on the monitor isn't usually there. I've got no clue what the actual reference is. Not Drawn Together or anything, is it? I'm probably way off.SlowShootinPete said:-image snipped-
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I'm sorry but now I have to kill you.Blatherscythe said:Dear God, it all makes sense now... We finally know why the downfall of good cartoons came... We must rise up and destroy anime! Every bit of the manga and poorly dubbed films that classifies as anime must be BURNED!Not G. Ivingname said:In the 90's after the success of Roger Rabbit, for a short time, cartoons were respected and people became nostalgic of the 40 and 50's cartoons. Animation became something that can be for both children and adults, and doesn't have to look down on children like the last 30 years had been moving towards. However, that age quickly died with three things. Anime started to come over to America in large amounts, Pokemon, Digemon, what-ever-emon. They were getting as high, or higher ratings then locally made cartoons and were far cheaper to redub. Cartoons for adults also came about with the success of the Simspons, meaning that having sexual innuednos or other adult entertainment hidden in cartoons like Animaniacs was unneeded. Finally, the big boy of television animation, Warner Brothers, shut down most of the animation studio since their finical flop of the 90 animated films (4 out of the 5 animated Warner brothers films didn't even make money, and I think the filth was Space Jam). With all adult audiences going to other shows, and all the kids going to anime, Western animation did the only thing it could do to survive, cut-back budgets, copy anime, and lose all quality.
zohmbee said:Oh I love you for mentioning Johnny Bravo.
You're not mistaken. Cartoons are worse nowadays. Much much worse.
Eh. I don't think that applies in all cases. Especially around the late-ninties, they were taking more chances with animation. I realize I keep bringing it up, but the quintessential example of this would probably be Samurai Jack. It was serious, well written, and incredibly well directed.Silva said:No, cartoons were always pretty unsophisticated forms of entertainment.
The problem with that is the only western anime that was really successful was avatar. The current trend is to be as manic and sugar induced as possible. Now this can be good (like flapjack in my opinion) or very very bad (like FanBoy and Chum Chum).Not G. Ivingname said:In the 90's after the success of Roger Rabbit, for a short time, cartoons were respected and people became nostalgic of the 40 and 50's cartoons. Animation became something that can be for both children and adults, and doesn't have to look down on children like the last 30 years had been moving towards. However, that age quickly died with three things. Anime started to come over to America in large amounts, Pokemon, Digemon, what-ever-emon. They were getting as high, or higher ratings then locally made cartoons and were far cheaper to redub. Cartoons for adults also came about with the success of the Simspons, meaning that having sexual innuednos or other adult entertainment hidden in cartoons like Animaniacs was unneeded. Finally, the big boy of television animation, Warner Brothers, shut down most of the animation studio since their finical flop of the 90 animated films (4 out of the 5 animated Warner brothers films didn't even make money, and I think the filth was Space Jam). With all adult audiences going to other shows, and all the kids going to anime, Western animation did the only thing it could do to survive, cut-back budgets, copy anime, and lose all quality.
Samurai Jack? Really? I did see one or two episodes, but I guess they were the comical ones, and I don't recall the jokes being mature, because it came off as a kid's show to me. And kid's shows, while they can be sophisticated in the sense that they're made in a cynical way to appeal to young eyes and hearts, aren't really sophisticated in the sense that I meant.RathWolf said:Eh. I don't think that applies in all cases. Especially around the late-ninties, they were taking more chances with animation. I realize I keep bringing it up, but the quintessential example of this would probably be Samurai Jack. It was serious, well written, and incredibly well directed.
Victory.MortisLegio said:Older cartoons were better and much more creative
new cartoons are stupid snot jokes and bright colors
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King RamsesHazy said:Did this bastard give you the creeps?Cheery Lunatic said:Whoever posted that Courage the Cowardly Dog clip, ILY.
God, I used to stay up as late as possible JUST to watch that show.
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"RETURN THE SLAAABBBB, OR SUFFER MY CUUURRRSEEEE!"
Tell me I'm not the only one :l
Hmm. Perhaps it's just because we're remembering different episodes. The ones I remember were extremely stylized, had little to no jokes, and just looked amazing. But then again, those ones probably didn't get shown as much, as they weren't as appealing to younger children.Silva said:Samurai Jack? Really? I did see one or two episodes, but I guess they were the comical ones, and I don't recall the jokes being mature, because it came off as a kid's show to me. And kid's shows, while they can be sophisticated in the sense that they're made in a cynical way to appeal to young eyes and hearts, aren't really sophisticated in the sense that I meant.RathWolf said:Eh. I don't think that applies in all cases. Especially around the late-ninties, they were taking more chances with animation. I realize I keep bringing it up, but the quintessential example of this would probably be Samurai Jack. It was serious, well written, and incredibly well directed.
Hazy said:Did this bastard give you the creeps?Cheery Lunatic said:Whoever posted that Courage the Cowardly Dog clip, ILY.
God, I used to stay up as late as possible JUST to watch that show.
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"RETURN THE SLAAABBBB, OR SUFFER MY CUUURRRSEEEE!"
Tell me I'm not the only one :l
the psychotic tendencies are as about as subtle as being hit upside the head.Hazy said:I think cartoons took far more risks when we were kids, as such, adults were able to relate with them as well.
I think that, now that we've grown, we're able to appreciate the subtle references to more adult-oriented themes that most shows (namely, the 90's) had used so wildly, to a much greater extent.
Case in point:
You could never show this today. The mixture of pedophilia/psychotic tendencies, as subtle as they may be, would make parents break out in a cold sweat.
Indeed, those shows did switch networks from Cartoon to Nick, I can't remember which first, but I distinctly remember watching those WB shows on both channels.RathWolf said:If you're thinking what I'm thinking, those shows tended to be from Warner Bros. animation though. Animaniacs, Pinky and the Brain...RatRace123 said:It used to go like this back in my day: Nick and Cartoon Network were host to some of the zaniest but still insanely well written shows, they not only appealed to kids but adults as well