Poll: Is Peter Molyneux a Narcissist?

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Shycte

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Valentine82 said:
Shycte said:
He does his job, very well. I seriously don't see the problem. No onne is forcing you to buy his games. So if you don't think that they will live up to the hype, then just don't buy the game.

Problem solved!
What does that have to do with anything?
I meant that is a reply to the whole Peter Molyneux-bashing movment who is growing at a alarming rate.

Anyway as you seem to want me to say;

On Topic: No, he is not.

CHEESE CAKE!!!
 

maddawg IAJI

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Valentine82 said:
maddawg IAJI said:
1) Just as a person uses evidence to explain his arguement I use your previous thread as evidence. I am simply using it to prove my point of you having a history with Anti-Peter Molyneux threads.
I have a history of three threads that have to do with Peter Molyneux, one was just to see what people would do, one was for serious discussion, and this one's just for fun. I only use PM because he's a big name in the industry and he has a history that many already know, and also because he's working on Fable 3 putting him in the public mind more.

maddawg IAJI said:
2)The Yes or No and possible maybe would have sufficed. Joke options don't offer any discussion and are actually a pet peeve of mine.
But it would be so much less fun!

maddawg IAJI said:
5)Then it's not maniuplation. You can't manipulate if you have no control over them.
Deception is a form of manipulation.

maddawg IAJI said:
6)You bolded. Giving people the Idea that he does in fact gloat about it.
Or giving the impression that he exaggerates the contents of his games.

maddawg IAJI said:
9)How can I misinterept my own opinon.
You misinterpreted my thread, not your opinion of it.

GrinningManiac said:
Good god, what are you, ten?

Actually, I feel bad for all the clever, thoughtful ten-year olds I've met.

Including Ashley. Damn that kid is awesome. Awesome 'fro too

Reported, and Ash hates you
Well that contributes nothing. I have violated no rules in any event, so reporting me doesn't really solve anything.
1)If your going to make threads like this then pick another topic. Peter Molyneux does not have a strangle hold on the industry. Actually scratch that. I don't want anymore threads that even closly resemble your past work.

2)Fair Enough. By the way we have a Forum Games section dedicated to making fun games. If you want fun go there.

3)Main Entry: ma·nip·u·late
Pronunciation: \mə-ˈni-pyə-ˌlât\
Function: transitive verb
Inflected Form(s): ma·nip·u·lat·ed; ma·nip·u·lat·ing
Etymology: back-formation from manipulation, from French, from manipuler to handle an apparatus in chemistry, ultimately from Latin manipulus
Date: 1834
1 : to treat or operate with or as if with the hands or by mechanical means especially in a skillful manner
2 a : to manage or utilize skillfully b : to control or play upon by artful, unfair, or insidious means especially to one's own advantage

Copy and pasted straight from the dicitonary.


Let's see now, 1 dosen't apply to him. He does not control or play upon us so 2 is out. So it looks like it isn't manipulation at all.

4) You give the Impression? That's the same thing I said!

5)My opinon on your thread is that it is a hate thread! I do not belive that my opinion is false nor right but it's what I think of it.

Rules) I think the mods will be the judge of your innocence.
 

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Valentine82 said:
I vote Cheese Cake! This isn't a Peter Molyneux rant, and I'm not accusing him of being a narcissist. But I have seen others do so on the internet, and it made me think, wouldn't a Narcissist love Good Games, especially games like Black and White and Dungeon Keeper? Keep in mind though, that not everyone who has these tendencies is a Narcissist, and most people have some or several. I don't think PM is a Narcissist because I don't think he meets the full criteria, but the things that make me think of him are in Bold.

Believing that you're better than others
Fantasizing about power, success and attractiveness
Exaggerating your achievements or talents
Expecting constant praise and admiration
Believing that you're special
Failing to recognize other people's emotions and feelings
Expecting others to go along with your ideas and plans
Taking advantage of others
Expressing disdain for those you feel are inferior
Being jealous of others
Believing that others are jealous of you
Trouble keeping healthy relationships
Setting unrealistic goals !!!
Being easily hurt and rejected
Having a fragile self-esteem
Appearing as tough-minded or unemotional

Edit CHEESE CAKE IS STILL IN THE RACE!
You seem to be barking up the Peter Molyneux tree quite a lot lately. It's almost as if he has wronged you on a personal level.

Anyway, as I said in your Poll: Peter Molyneux, Idiot or Liar? [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.136679?page=1] thread he is someone who does his job very well. Every person has his quirks and his flaws and I don't see you or anyone rushing to make threads about other people. In fact, if anyone is going to indulge in a bit of narcissism why can't it be Peter Molyneux?.

Honestly, leave the man alone and move on.
 

Valentine82

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Different topic with different intention, maybe misplaced, different usage of the term manipulate (psychological manipulation often includes deception), different impression, not a hate thread.

Leave it to the mods, I've broken no rules.

@ McHanhan, the other thread was for serious discussion about Peter Molyneux's honesty, or lack there of, in the often untrue claims he's made about his products. This thread is more for fun. People on forums all over the internet have called him a Narcissist so I decided to explore this, I don't think that he's a Narcissist and I said as much in my post. I highlighted the few things that even make me think of him, and I explained before that many people have several of the characteristic I listed.
 

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Valentine82 said:
Different topic with different intention, maybe misplaced, different usage of the term manipulate (psychological manipulation often includes deception), different impression, not a hate thread.

Leave it to the mods, I've broken no rules.
You know what I'm gonna be the bigger man and walk away now before this thread gives me a tumor induced by frustration. That and I don't wanna be here when the Mods get here. Those moments never end well *Rethinks of bad memories*.
 

Curtmiester

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Valentine82 said:
Curtmiester said:
BULLLLLSHIT.
Sorry, but like I said I didn't call him a bad person. I said the things that made me think of him were in bold and I listed off the full criteria for Narcissim highlighting only a few things that made me think of him, and I was sure to point out that I don't think that he's a Narcissist and that some of the traits listed were common in most people. All of the things in bold involve the type of games he makes and the things he says about them.
So all those negative things you get when you think of him are pointless because you don't think poorly of him?
Once agin, BULLLLLSHIT.
 

Valentine82

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Xandus117 said:
Is it just me, or have there been a bunch of Peter Molynuex threads recently?

Frankly, I think Peter Molynuex simply thinks that his games are better than they really are.
Maybe =)

I still voke Cheese Cake.

Curtmiester said:
So all those negative things you get when you think of him are pointless because you don't think poorly of him?
Once agin, BULLLLLSHIT.
What the hell are you talking about? I added a disclaimer. The things I highlighted in bold are only things that make me think of him because of the type of games he makes and the things (often untrue things) he says about them. My only criticism of Peter Molyneux, my only actual criticism, is that I think he's dishonest. I have no particular dislike of the man, the only thing I really hate people defend him from any and all criticism and give him a free pass, but that isn't what this thread is supposed to be about.

Before it got Hijacked, this thread was about having fun and examining the claim found all over the internet that PM's a Narcissist in a light hearted way. If you carefully re-read my topic you'll see that I don't even believe that PM is a Narcissist and that the things I highlighted in bold may be fairly common.
 

Valentine82

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DrDeath3191 said:
Xandus117 said:
Is it just me, or have there been a bunch of Peter Molynuex threads recently?
There have been. From this same person.
One a couple of weeks ago to see what people would do, one to seriously discuss the matter of his honesty when presenting his games to the public, and one for fun to deal with the common claim that Peter Molyneux is a narcissist in a light hearted way (in which I clearly state, explicitly, that I don't think he's a narcissist).
 

Icehearted

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To call him a delusional dreamer does little justice to the acres of broken dreams we have spread before before him like a mass grave.

He cackles, I'm sure, between bites of crunchy chick.
 

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Valentine82 said:
Xandus117 said:
Is it just me, or have there been a bunch of Peter Molynuex threads recently?

Frankly, I think Peter Molynuex simply thinks that his games are better than they really are.
Maybe =)

I still voke Cheese Cake.

Curtmiester said:
So all those negative things you get when you think of him are pointless because you don't think poorly of him?
Once agin, BULLLLLSHIT.
What the hell are you talking about? I added a disclaimer. The things I highlighted in bold are only things that make me think of him because of the type of games he makes and the things (often untrue things) he says about them. My only criticism of Peter Molyneux, my only actual criticism, is that I think he's dishonest. I have no particular dislike of the man, the only thing I really hate people defend him from any and all criticism and give him a free pass, but that isn't what this thread is supposed to be about.

Before it got Hijacked, this thread was about having fun and examining the claim found all over the internet that PM's a Narcissist in a light hearted way. If you carefully re-read my topic you'll see that I don't even believe that PM is a Narcissist and that the things I highlighted in bold may be fairly common.
You still only gave one legit option to those who disagree. The others, barring Cheesecake, all cast a negative view of PM. It's a biased poll, since there is no balance between the positive and negative.
 

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I *like* Peter Molyneux. He's one of the only major game developers who's still willing to dream and show a bit of whimsy as opposed to the cold, corporate machines you see representing most developers; So afraid to say anything that might be perceived in a bad light they'll give as little information as possible or give bland excuses whenever someone dares ask a question.

Besides, he's always been like this. I remember back when he was boasting about Populous and how it would be the best thing ever. Was it? No. But it was still damn fun and creative, just like every single one of his games have been. Are they always what he dreams they'll be? No. But in reaching for the stars at least he's trying so give the guy some damn slack people. Just take whatever he's dreaming and throw in a good dose of realism and you've got what he'll end up with, and that's fine.

Obviously you just want another mindless drone babbling statistics at every meeting. Fine. Whatever. You have your dull grey world. Me? I like a bit of flavour and style, both which Molyneux has in spades.

Why the hell is everyone on the guys case?
 

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I wouldn't call him a narcissist.

Theory no.1: I beleive that he has a different view on fun. He finds personal likings in his games that we don't see.

The only problem is everyone has a different version of the idea of "fun".

Theory no. 2: Hell, he's just a hype-master. He has a way with words that makes you beleive in fairy tales and the land of golden cookies with chocolate chips.
 

Valentine82

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rickheg said:
You still only gave one legit option to those who disagree. The others, barring Cheesecake, all cast a negative view of PM. It's a biased poll, since there is no balance between the positive and negative.
What about Delusional Dreamer and Maybe? What more would you have for those who disagree? I'm open to suggestions.