Poll: Is Red Dead Redemption GOTY over Mass Effect 2?

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Rich Eichenberg

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I am selling my copy of RDR because I just couldn't get into it. Plus, It really let me down that they just reused the rage engine and didn't even bother to attempt to tweak it to make an honor system work. I personally was hoping for something of the scale and quality of Fallout3. But I feel a bit let down. Grand Horse Theft Liberty Andreas Redemption just isn't my cup of tea.

I will say the story was really well done, but 5 years for that? (Lazlow was quoted as saying RDR took 5 years to make, I don't feel those years were utilized properly)
 

King of the Sandbox

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Red Dead Redemption ftw.

(Though I'll admit I haven't played Mass Effect 2 yet, but c'mon! Let the cowboys win one! Space has been there enough with Halo and Galaxy and others.)

EDIT: Wait, is this a versus thread?
 

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To me Mass Effect 2 fixed most of the problems that plagued Mass Effect. And then it introduced just as many of its own. Exploration is gone, since all the maps are mostly just linear corridors you follow through to the end (this goes for the 'cities' as well), the Storyline trots along at a slow pace and the sense of urgency is utterly killed by the fact that you don't encounter reapers for most of the game apart from the storyline missions. The combat was good, but there was too much of it and the game felt compartmentalized in the "Social Interaction" Compartment and the "Fighting" Compartment.

In comparsion, I find that RDR has flaws, but it is the game that I've played more and still want to play even more off. ME2 turned out to be a disappointment for me, it felt too short and too linear to satisfy my expectations of an RPG.
 

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I'm still wondering if I am ever going to wake up and understand why people go ape shit crazy over everything Rockstar throws up. I decided to buy into hype this time, and found a game with mediocre 3rd person shooting, mediocre story, mediocre online, and well...mediocre everything. If they would have strayed a bit from the formula they have been using for the last 10 years though, I might be a bit more forgiving.
 

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Don't care about which one will be the game of the year. Both are great games. I enjoyed Mass Effect 2 alot, and now I'm currently playing Red Dead Redemption.
 

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I'm going with Red Dead on this. I played the pants off of ME2 and I loved it, but there was always something that felt a bit amiss with the Mass Effect series, it didn't draw me into th mindset of Commaner Shepherd like I was drawn into the boots of John Marston. It just didn't suspend my disbelief like I had hoped and it always felt like a big of a chore to do side missions in Mass effect 2 wheras in RDR the little random ocurences are short and fun to do, since it never gets tiring drawing your iron lead-spitter.
 

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I feel severely underwhelmed by RDR so between that and ME2, I'd pick ME2 if only because the characters and story were atleast interesting. The characters and story in RDR feel dead in the water, there's no sense of character development or story proggression at all. And they only characters I liked (the McFarlanes and the Marshall) suddenly drop of the map without any sense of closure.

The Free Roam is pretty fun, but the single-player is as tasteless as a saltless saltine.
 

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From all I hear about RDR, it's a great game. I guess I'll find out for sure when I can scrape together the money for it.

ME2 was definitely a solid game, but I thought it threw away too many of the RPG elements of the first and had relatively bland gameplay and a less awesome story, albeit with more interesting characters.

I'm holding out for Mafia II.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
I feel severely underwhelmed by RDR so between that and ME2, I'd pick ME2 if only because the characters and story were atleast interesting. The characters and story in RDR feel dead in the water, there's no sense of character development or story proggression at all. And they only characters I liked (the McFarlanes and the Marshall) suddenly drop of the map without any sense of closure.

The Free Roam is pretty fun, but the single-player is as tasteless as a saltless saltine.
I don't even... How could you... WHAT?!?

/sighs

I guess that's your opinion, but I put the story right up there with the great westerns, alongside the Magnificent 7, The Dollars/No Name Trilogy and Deadwood.

Is that it? Do you not dig westerns? Cause I wasn't a huge fan until this game.
 

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Mass Effect 2 is awesome, but I just brought RDR today and ca't play it til the weekend so my judgement will have to wait til then.
 

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It's not even June, are you assuming the rest of the year will see only crap-releases leaving only these two games viable for the title of "Game of the Year"?

I certainly hope not, I'd hate to think this is all we'll see of good-gaming until 2011.
 

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TraumaHound said:
It's not even June, are you assuming the rest of the year will see only crap-releases leaving only these two games viable for the title of "Game of the Year"?

I certainly hope not, I'd hate to think this is all we'll see of good-gaming until 2011.
It's not the only good ones, just the front-runners currently. ^_^
 

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King of the Sandbox said:
Casual Shinji said:
I feel severely underwhelmed by RDR so between that and ME2, I'd pick ME2 if only because the characters and story were atleast interesting. The characters and story in RDR feel dead in the water, there's no sense of character development or story proggression at all. And they only characters I liked (the McFarlanes and the Marshall) suddenly drop of the map without any sense of closure.

The Free Roam is pretty fun, but the single-player is as tasteless as a saltless saltine.
I don't even... How could you... WHAT?!?

/sighs

I guess that's your opinion, but I put the story right up there with the great westerns, alongside the Magnificent 7, The Dollars/No Name Trilogy and Deadwood.

Is that it? Do you not dig westerns? Cause I wasn't a huge fan until this game.
I'm not really a fan of westerns, no. The only western I really liked was Dead Man, but I don't know how much that can be considerd a "western".
I was looking forward to RDR like you wouldn't believe. I might not like looking at cowboys doing their thing, but actually being a cowboy and shooting up possum-skinning lowlifes sounded sweet. Maybe I'm playing the game wrong, but it doesn't feel like the gameplay has progressed since the first shoot-out mission.
The characters in RDR just don't have that spirit that the characters from GTA4 and Bully had. And John Marsden doesn't seem to develop as a character at all throughout the game. And as I've said in another post, I can't feel emotional for the guy if he doesn't even seem to have any emotions himself.

So in short; the characters feel dry and dead, the gameplay feels tedious and slow and the open-world feels empty and flat. I think I have to file RDR as the biggest disappointment of the year for me.
 

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Casual Shinji said:
King of the Sandbox said:
Casual Shinji said:
I feel severely underwhelmed by RDR so between that and ME2, I'd pick ME2 if only because the characters and story were atleast interesting. The characters and story in RDR feel dead in the water, there's no sense of character development or story proggression at all. And they only characters I liked (the McFarlanes and the Marshall) suddenly drop of the map without any sense of closure.

The Free Roam is pretty fun, but the single-player is as tasteless as a saltless saltine.
I don't even... How could you... WHAT?!?

/sighs

I guess that's your opinion, but I put the story right up there with the great westerns, alongside the Magnificent 7, The Dollars/No Name Trilogy and Deadwood.

Is that it? Do you not dig westerns? Cause I wasn't a huge fan until this game.
I'm not really a fan of westerns, no. The only western I really liked was Dead Man, but I don't know how much that can be considerd a "western".
I was looking forward to RDR like you wouldn't believe. I might not like looking at cowboys doing their thing, but actually being a cowboy and shooting up possum-skinning lowlifes sounded sweet. Maybe I'm playing the game wrong, but it doesn't feel like the gameplay has progressed since the first shoot-out mission.
The characters in RDR just don't have that spirit that the characters from GTA4 and Bully had. And John Marsden doesn't seem to develop as a character at all throughout the game. And as I've said in another post, I can't feel emotional for the guy if he doesn't even seem to have any emotions himself.

So in short; the characters feel dry and dead, the gameplay feels tedious and slow and the open-world feels empty and flat. I think I have to file RDR as the biggest disappointment of the year for me.
I truly pity you in that respect. I found them to be quite believable as real people, with real stories, and I found myself becoming more invested with them as John himself did. Some I was angry with for seemingly BSing me around, some I enjoyed being around just for the company and charm, and others who I truly felt pity for and a desire to assist them if I could.

John himself, well, he's got a lot on his mind and very little patience left. I really enjoyed his attitude towards most every situation, and could even empathize.

Again, I'm super sad that you didn't find it enjoyable, but hey, not everyone can love everything, right? Good luck on your next gaming adventure. ^_^
 

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King of the Sandbox said:
TraumaHound said:
It's not even June, are you assuming the rest of the year will see only crap-releases leaving only these two games viable for the title of "Game of the Year"?

I certainly hope not, I'd hate to think this is all we'll see of good-gaming until 2011.
It's not the only good ones, just the front-runners currently. ^_^
Yeah as Kingy said I'm not saying these are the only good games of the year, it's more a so far in the year these two are the standouts and I believe will be contesting for the prize. I'm just interested in what people think about the two and which they like more.
 

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No. No no no no no. Mass Effect 2 is and always will be the best game of 2010. People need to stop sucking Rockstar off when ever they can. There not that great. And same goes for valve. no game will ever be Better then Mass Effect 2. Ever. But thats just my opinion. If you say Red Dead is better, fine. I have no problem with that.

Your still wrong though.
 

King of the Sandbox

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redbeta22 said:
No. No no no no no. Mass Effect 2 is and always will be the best game of 2010. People need to stop sucking Rockstar off when ever they can. There not that great. And same goes for valve. no game will ever be Better then Mass Effect 2. Ever. But thats just my opinion. If you say Red Dead is better, fine. I have no problem with that.

Your still wrong though.
I'll never get over the way some people take opinions as a right/wrong dynamic.