I really do not believe that those are real, I mean I've heard of stupid people, but I can't believe that anyone is stupid enough to think THAT is even a shadow of a good idea.
You said it was wrong, not me-- I'm just pointing it out because it's difficult to have a real discussion about things like this when people think "eeeeew" whenever they see something that isn't inherently vulgar. It's not wrong that you were all raised that way-- that's just how it is. But you shouldn't expect people to censor themselves just because you personally consider human genitals to be explicit content.Gigaguy64 said:Ant that is wrong how?HSIAMetalKing said:PS, I don't think this discussion is really about feminism at all, but about how all of you have been raised to blush when you see certain body parts.
Is it wrong for some people to value Modesty?
Is it wrong for some people to rather not see certian parts of another Body outside of the bedroom, even if its fake?
I don't get how its wrong.
I couldn't care less if someone wanted to wear something like these but, i am wrong for not wanting to see it?
Well my issue is that the knob festival happens at knob festival time and ends. If someone doesn't want to be around it they already know when they are going. If I'm standing in line at the bank and suddenly have a vagina purse waved in my face I think that is pushing personal liberty too far into "offensive cause I can". I much prefer the actual thing (24 year old heterosexual male) but if I wouldn't want real vaginas beared in public all day why would I suddenly not care about fake ones?Helmutye said:I don't know. There have been stranger fashion trends in history--codpieces, anyone? Curly toed boots? Those hoods with the long tail thing trailing down from the back? There's nothing really wrong with any of these things, and more power to people if they want to wear them. But if I saw somebody walking down the street wearing a codpiece, curly toed boots, or the 'happy tampon' purse and trying to take it seriously, it would be hard not to laugh.
As a serious piece of fashion, it doesn't appeal to me personally. Don't get me wrong, I like girl parts a lot (I am a 27 year old heterosexual male, after all). But I like them where nature put them, and I like them as part of a whole body. Seeing a disembodied one on a purse doesn't really do anything for me, artistically or otherwise.
At least some people might wear them as a gesture of protest, but I've never really taken the idea of phallic imagery too seriously--yes, things like swords and guns and rocketships and lots of other things are somewhat penis shaped, but but before we attribute this to all kinds of deep-seated psychological causes shouldn't we also acknowledge that Form follows Function? I would like to see someone design thoroughly non-phallic versions of all these things and demonstrate their functional superiority, because unless this can be done in most cases we should at least consider that things are shaped the way they are because that shape is the most useful for the desired function.
One other thing to keep in mind is that humans are very strange creatures, and while we might like to think there is general consensus on a lot of things there really isn't. There are religious groups with millions of followers who worship penises and vaginas and use them in routine rituals. There is a Shinto ceremony where you write prayers on little clay penises and put them all in a shrine, kind of like how at Christian churches you can light prayer candles. There is a fertility festival in Japan where they carry a 9 ft long, 620 lb penis like a float in a parade. A lot of pagan religions made idols and artwork that were probably taken just as seriously as we take crucifixes, stars of david, and others today.
The bottom line is, I think those things are a bit weird, and would probably not buy them for anyone I knew. But I would not be at all surprised if there are people in the world who would be totally fine with them and treat them very normally, and I can respect that. Just forgive me a few immature giggles, and if you want to explain it I would be very interested to listen!
I said NSFW, that's the warning, and the poll includes the word Vagina.Mezmer said:God damn it, you should warn us about the things we can't unsee before clicking the link!
Name one "Phallic Symbol" that isn't that shape because that is the best shape to do the job it does.Asher1991 said:Considering most things present in our culture are phallic symbols... Go for it, feminism. Seriously, the patriarchy is in dire need of some good old-fashioned overthrowing.
But, why should the world settle down at all? It's already grey and boring enough. Everyone looks the same, wears same designed clothes, eats same crap, lives in identical little houses with ikea manufactured furniture and drives identical idiotic cars.Celtic_Kerr said:Hmm... I don't think this works quite so well. Though the mental image of a man pressing a prosthetic vulva into somsone's face and screaming that out has put me in stiches. Hell, I wear black leather arm bands that look like medival bracers, a bullet belt, black jeans, and a "Finntroll" t-shirt and i'm looked at funny.
Yes it's absurd, but the world needs to settle down a bit
I agree with that too somewhat.Headcap said:this guy got it rightCanid117 said:I think the feminist tag is more of a cheap attempt to grab customers.
I am a feminist (not some batshit insane "fuck all men") that would be pretty stupid, as I'm a guy.
But seriously, it's these fuckfaces that are giving feminism a bad name
Feminism means simplyfied: no differences between male and female.
which i believe in!
Well, i was raised not to hit a woman not because they are weak, but because i should respect ALL people.People who go around saying "It is not right to punch a girl"... You know those people right? Well FUCK THEM if I were ever to hurt someone physically seriously, it would not matter if they were a girl or a guy, if they deserve it, they fucking get it.
To me this depends on the situation.I also hate those guys protecting women! Whenever i see that, I can't stop thinking that these guys have this idea that women are weak little people who cannot stand up for themselves
and that is true many of the times, not because they are women, but because this is what they are taught.
So i agree that women can stand up for themselves and are not to be treated as weak helpless creatures.It
fucking
pisses
me
off!
Let the women stand up for themselves!
do NOT teach them that they are little insignificant people who are made to be protected and please men!
please go ragewar on me![]()