Poll: Is this sexist?

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Alex_P

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TeragRunner said:
I tried to inform them that I was only trying to be polite, chivalrous even, but they wouldn't take it.
What's the difference between chivalry and basic politeness? Chivalry is based on a set of sexist expectations for gendered behavior.

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Cakes

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Er...yes? I'm pretty sure that's how sexism works. You could have instead said "I don't want anyone paying for me" which would have been much less jackass-ish.
 

manaman

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skywalkerlion said:
manaman said:
*snip*

I really hope you are not serious. That really seems like a troll post it there ever was one, and maybe you should edit it to not be so blatantly antagonistic and ignorant before you get a probation.

Sexism is attitudes or behavior based on traditional stereotypes of sexual roles. Stuff like opening the door for your date, standing up when a lady walks onto a crowded bus, paying for dinner, etc is sexism. However I doubt anyone will call you it, unless they want to say thanks. Why? Cause the difference is being rude, or not. Just recognize it for what it is, and stop being so... well you get the idea.
Wow, nice way to go up in arms about my post, jeez.

I guess you can say I'm a tad bit sexist by your logic, but what are you ranting about? By your logic EVERYONE is sexist, and if that is true, I don't see what the big deal is. I was just raised this way, and if you really wanna call this 'sexist', than you're a really touchy person, mah friend.

I made a laid back response to a thread and you're like 'OH WTF YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS YOU SUNUVABITCH!' (okay, I'm exaggerating a bit..).

And I'm pretty sure this guy just had it come out wrong. But there's no need to call me agnotistic (How am I being this..?) and ignorant. Even though I bet I could use editing my post a bit so it doesn't seem like I'm retarded.
I wasn't up in arms. I was pointing out something that was obvious in a clear and precise manner. Besides that was not my definition of sexism that was the dictionary definition of sexism. I just wanted you to know that unlike what you said, your views where considered sexist. Then I proceed with a set of examples of sexist acts, that frankly nobody really gives a damn about, to illustrate my point that it all depends on if you are being rude or not. I would give up my seat on the bus, if I ever rode the thing. I pay for dinners. I hold open doors. Then again I will hold open the door for anyone at a store. I just make a point of getting the door for a date.

As far as your question about being antagonistic and ignorant; Ignorant means basically uninformed, and antagonistic can mean unfriendly or hostile and I would think lines like:

skywalkerlion said:
And inb4 like 70 feminists come in complaining about how sexist you are..
Fairly well qualifies as that.
 

karp250

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it can be sexist in interpretation but for these i say would be different if u said i am not letting a guy pay for my ticket and i don't really think it is
 

PurpleRain

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TeragRunner said:
I just got in a heated argument with some female friends of mine about not having money to go to s local haunted house. So they offered to pay my admission fee. Without thinking I replied "I'm not letting a bunch of girls pay my admit ion." That was a mistake. Now I have three angry girls riding my ass about how sexist I am.

I tried to inform them that I was only trying to be polite, chivalrous even, but they wouldn't take it. So now I've turned to internet for my answer.

Edit: I do have to admit that I probably said it at a bad time. It was mid argument after I had refused a few times. They asked why and so I said in a flash of anger and trying to get back to my video games as fast as possible ( this conversation was over AIM) I just typed in that in the 15 seconds of spawn time.
That fact that you targeted them as thus, and with the way you said it, it was. "I'm not letting a bunch of X do this for me!"
That is sexist because you're treating them with difference. If you were being chivalrous, you should have been more polite and more rounded with your answer without treating them as 'anouther' sex. See, the thing with feminism is that we want to break the barriers between the social differences of women and men and treat everyone as humans and as equals.

You may have not been sexist, but you were. Sorry bud.

tellmeimaninja said:
Sexist was if you told them to give you the money and make you a sandwich. What you did was simply kind, and your friends need to stop being so easily offended.

"Hey Rookie! If you ever fall in love with a girl, make sure she's got balls."
- GySgt. Eddie Buck
Not true. By that definition, calling someone out because of their race is not racist, but the far extreme is (aka, KKK, hanging, etc). As far as I was aware, they are both racist (as implied by the definition and how someone feels to be treated thus) and on the fact, so is this. You don't have to be blatantly rude and sexist to be sexist.
 

TheNumber1Zero

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What you said wasn't sexist really, the way you said it is though.
If they won't listen to what you're saying then they're just being closed minded, Overly offended ad just plain rude.

You could always ignore them for a while, either it'll all blow over, they will eventually accept what you said or you will need some new friends.

Although it sounds to me as though you could use some new friends if they're supposed to be your friends and yet won't let you explain yourself.
 

Jaywebbs

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In Truth, The way you said it made it seem Sexist, because you distinguished that because they were girls, and because the way it was structured stated that it was because they were girls you didn't want them to pay for it.

Although it was the chivalrous thing to do, you need to realize that Chivalry in regards to acting towards women comes out of a out dated mindset that women are the weaker sex, so by stating that something was chivalrous you have answered your own question, Yes It was sexist, and Sexism, good or bad, is sexism and wrong.
 

Ryuu Akamatsu

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Males and females often don't want to seem weak or needy, especially in front of the opposite sex, as they often see it as a bad quality to have in terms of public opinion and personal relationships. No it's not sexist. You just don't want to use others, especially the opposite sex, as a crutch to help you achieve things you can't do yourself.
 

skywalkerlion

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manaman said:
skywalkerlion said:
manaman said:
*snip*

I really hope you are not serious. That really seems like a troll post it there ever was one, and maybe you should edit it to not be so blatantly antagonistic and ignorant before you get a probation.

Sexism is attitudes or behavior based on traditional stereotypes of sexual roles. Stuff like opening the door for your date, standing up when a lady walks onto a crowded bus, paying for dinner, etc is sexism. However I doubt anyone will call you it, unless they want to say thanks. Why? Cause the difference is being rude, or not. Just recognize it for what it is, and stop being so... well you get the idea.
Wow, nice way to go up in arms about my post, jeez.

I guess you can say I'm a tad bit sexist by your logic, but what are you ranting about? By your logic EVERYONE is sexist, and if that is true, I don't see what the big deal is. I was just raised this way, and if you really wanna call this 'sexist', than you're a really touchy person, mah friend.

I made a laid back response to a thread and you're like 'OH WTF YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS YOU SUNUVABITCH!' (okay, I'm exaggerating a bit..).

And I'm pretty sure this guy just had it come out wrong. But there's no need to call me agnotistic (How am I being this..?) and ignorant. Even though I bet I could use editing my post a bit so it doesn't seem like I'm retarded.
I wasn't up in arms. I was pointing out something that was obvious in a clear and precise manner. Besides that was not my definition of sexism that was the dictionary definition of sexism. I just wanted you to know that unlike what you said, your views where considered sexist. Then I proceed with a set of examples of sexist acts, that frankly nobody really gives a damn about, to illustrate my point that it all depends on if you are being rude or not. I would give up my seat on the bus, if I ever rode the thing. I pay for dinners. I hold open doors. Then again I will hold open the door for anyone at a store. I just make a point of getting the door for a date.

As far as your question about being antagonistic and ignorant; Ignorant means basically uninformed, and antagonistic can mean unfriendly or hostile and I would think lines like:

skywalkerlion said:
And inb4 like 70 feminists come in complaining about how sexist you are..
Fairly well qualifies as that.
Original post was edited so like I said I don't look like a rednecked retard..

And your post didn't really come out at me like that, so sorry for the misunderstanding. To me, it sounded like your first post was you being a touchy guy with a stick up his ass, and now I am corrected ;)

Sorry..again.
 

Yoshemo

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hmm... where do you live? The same thing happened to a guy in my class today.
 

Timotei

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Wakefield said:
No it wasn't sexist, it also wasn't very tactful. Us women get offended for the silliest reasons.
I agree with that. I've seen two girls get into a fist fight that ended up with one being hospitalized. If I remember correctly the cause of it was one saying that an another's backpack looked like shit (and would you be surprised if I told you that the one who started the fight was a Latin Queen?).

Some of us also lack the ability to let things go when we are offended, and the problem worsens when it comes down to someone's pride being damaged.

Then again this is just what I've observed, and I say "observed" because I do not exhibit many female tendencies.
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Don't worry, they aren't even real people.
I'm sure Labyrinth would love to here that.
 

BonsaiK

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TeragRunner said:
I just got in a heated argument with some female friends of mine about not having money to go to s local haunted house. So they offered to pay my admission fee. Without thinking I replied "I'm not letting a bunch of girls pay my admit ion." That was a mistake. Now I have three angry girls riding my ass about how sexist I am.

I tried to inform them that I was only trying to be polite, chivalrous even, but they wouldn't take it. So now I've turned to internet for my answer.

Edit: I do have to admit that I probably said it at a bad time. It was mid argument after I had refused a few times. They asked why and so I said in a flash of anger and trying to get back to my video games as fast as possible ( this conversation was over AIM) I just typed in that in the 15 seconds of spawn time.
It was very sexist. If I were those girls I'd be fuming.

You're implying in that statement that there's something negative about girls paying for you.

The fact that you didn't mean for it to come out that way and it just kinda slipped out in the heat of the moment makes it FAR, FAR WORSE. Why? Because it means that your sexism is something which exists for you on an immediate, subconscious level, your sexism is so completely ingrained in your personality that it's at the point where it's something that you just DO without even thinking about it first. It's not like you premeditated it - it just happened naturally. That's something you should be very concerned about.

Also - three girls want to take you to a haunted house, and you said no?!? Are you for real? Dude, give me their phone numbers, I'll go with them...
 

TheRealCJ

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Wakefield said:
No it wasn't sexist, it also wasn't very tactful. Us women get offended for the silliest reasons.
I find that Offensive!

"Woman" is an old archaic term coined by the Male bourgeoisie, and as such shouldn't be used by an advanced society.

Please use the word "Soul Blossoms" from now on.
 

NeutralDrow

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...yeah, I'm gonna have to say it really was. The motivation wasn't so much "chivalrous" as "chauvinistic." They're girls who have disposable income that they don't mind spending on friends. Gender shouldn't really matter in that case.
 

Chancie

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No, probably not. Sounds like it was just male pride getting in the way. Unfortunately, it certainly came out wrong.
 

Charli

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Your thought and motivation for refusing was sexist...yes...

However you could have tactifully dodged that bullet otherwise by simply being polite and saying you don't want to waste others money, and maybe some other time...

I'm a girl, I wouldn't have gotten on your case for it, but I might have given you a very long flat look... A sort of 'Try again.' Look if you will. I love unnerving people by speaking with my facial expressions, words are too easy hehe.