Poll: Is treating women in Gentlemanly way Sexist?

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DarthSka

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Technically speaking, it is sexism. When most people hear the word, they think of negative behaviors such as telling a woman she belongs in the kitchen. But any treatment based primarily on one's gender is sexist. Opening a door for someone because they're a woman? Sexism. Not using swear words because you're around women? Sexism. Letting a woman have the taxi even though you got their first because she's a woman? Sexism. Generally, polite actions such as these are not thought of as sexism because they are seen as positive, but it's still behavior based on the other person's gender. I'm not saying that being a gentleman is bad, as I am too. But still, sexist.
 

Kouen

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Buretsu said:
Kouen said:
A Raging Emo said:
Nope, but I treat everyone in a gentlemanly fashion, not just women.

This has backfired in occasion, though. I was walking into a shop near where I live, and there was a woman behind me with two children. I held the door open for her, just as I would have for anyone, and she then had a huge go at me for being sexist towards her, and that she can do it herself. She claimed that she manages to raise those two by herself, she doesn't need a man to do anything for her; she is completely independent!

I was fourteen years old at the time.
That is when I would have slapped her and told her to get off her high horse, but that's just me :p

But however don't get me wrong if it was a dude it would have been a knuckle sandwich instead xD
Hey! That's sexist! You'd have to punch her in the face, too, for the sake of equality.
Valid point :p

But ya I treat all equal for the good or bad xD
 

R3dF41c0n

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No, I don't think it's sexist at all. I actually met a girl who would get unset if a man held the door open for her. Personally I open the door for everyone if it's appropriate.

I believe men should behave like modern gentlemen and woman as modern ladies. I see too many people my age (mid twenties), both men and woman, who behave like hooligans. If anyone is interested The Art of Manliness talks about stuff like this.
 

Easton Dark

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Kind of the definition. If you treat someone different because of their gender, that's sexism.

I prefer to treat people as individuals, but whatever.
 

BrionJames

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I consider myself a gentlemen, but I only hold doors when I think its appropriate. Old granny's like it when you hold the door for them. They appreciate it more. I figure since there IS a possibility that a woman might find it offensive, I usually don't hold the door for anyone under the age of 50.
 

Padwolf

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I don't think it's sexist at all. If a guy holds the door open for me, I assume it's because he is a polite person who would do it for anyone else, just like I would for anyone. The same for any other situation really.
 

alandavidson

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How about this: treat others the way you would like to be treated.

Seems pretty simple, and it doesn't involve gender.
 

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See, I don't consider any of those things "gentlemanly" or "chivalrous." I consider them "polite."

I'm a woman, and I do all of those things for people of both genders when it's appropriate. I'll hold a door open if I'm ahead of someone and they're close enough for it not to get awkward while I wait for them to get there, or to let someone in before I go out if we both reach the door at the same time. I'll offer a friend my jacket if it's chilly and they're wearing, say, a short sleeved or very thin top (and I'm wearing something warmer). It's common courtesy.

Do you do these things for both sexes? Then no problem, you're just being polite.

Do you go out of your way to do these things exclusively for women? Then, while not sexist in the way you'd normally think, it's still a bit off. That comes across at best as trying too hard, perhaps a bit desperate, and at worst as belittling or patronising ("oh you poor delicate flower, you cannot possibly handle the cold or open a door by yourself." Not necessarily what you're thinking, granted, but how it could be interpreted by some people.)

If you do these things exclusively for women then yes, technically it is sexist. You're treating people differently based purely on their gender. It may say something about how you think of women, even subconsciously, perhaps that they're weak(er) and need protecting.

Now, if some random guy holds a door for me I'm not going to call him sexist because for all I know he'd do the same if I was a dude. If I knew someone well enough to know that they didn't extend the same courtesy to guys, then yes I would be a bit put out by it because I'd start to feel patronised.
 

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Being polite is something everyone should do for everyone else, not just for women.
I am no more polite to women, than I am to men, children, the elderly, whoever. I am polite to all strangers - I don't know them. If someone proves themselves to be a rude, wretched person then my politeness with them ends. And it also ends with friends and people I am close with. Not that I am rude to them, but politeness is very formal, and I'm not generally that formal with people I'm close to.

My main concern in being polite to women is having it thrown back in my face. I once held the door for a woman, who snidely said 'I can actually get that myself, thanks.' To me, that is the worst kind of person; one who throws a good deed at the doer. Suffice to say, I parted her with some less than polite words.

I think the term 'sexist' is too easy to throw around. If someone is polite to a woman, because of her sex, it that sexist? Its certainly making a distinction and a discrimination, albeit a positive one. However, in the modern world, packed full of strangers we must make decisions based on prejudgments all the time. We sort people by the obvious information available to us - sex, age, physical build, disability. We do not have time to learn about everyone's personalities and needs. If I see an old man, struggling with a bag, I may help him, because the elderly tend to have less muscle tone. If I am opening a door, which is quite heavy, and a woman is entering after me, I may hold open the door for her, because women tend to have less muscle tone than men. If I see a child alone, looking lost or distressed in a rough area, I will try to help them, because children are more vulnerable. If I see a woman lost and distressed in a rough area, I may also try to help her, because women are more vulnerable to attack than men. So if being polite and kind to women like that is sexist, then I'll rather happily be a sexist.
 

thahat

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yes, but its one of those double standard things woman are covered in. so 'yes on paper, no in effect'
 

RedDeadFred

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If being kind and polite to women is sexist than I guess I am sexist. Granted I act this way to fellow men as well.

Am I sexist for just being nice to people?