Poll: Is treating women in Gentlemanly way Sexist?

[Risingblade]

Yes you should be a jerk to everyone or nice to everyone. I'm not so I must be a sexist.

 

[Dogstile]

Of course it is, you're treating them differently, I just think its acceptable

 

[Random Fella]

But do you really think it's wrong to expect my fellow men to respect women, and treat them like ladies

That doesn't mean anything unless you are already segregating men and women.
There is no inherent way that a "lady" is "meant" to be treated. A women is just another person, treat them as a human being, not as an arbitrarily defined "lady".

but i'd say I'm a sexist in a good way,

There's no such thing. Perpetuating stereotypes is never good in the end, and there's not a finite supply of politeness. If you're going to be nice to women, why not be nice to men too?

I just can't help but feel that way

Yes you can. It's not going to happen overnight, but it's hardly immutable.
If, on the other hand, you insist that "I can't change" that's certainly the first step to a self fulfilling prophecy.

No such thing as a good sexist, ha, you are validating my point of PC activists
The fact that I would rather treat a women with respect and decency, you act like I'm the bad guy for wanting that, which is preposterous
Also, I never said I wasn't nice to men, I'm just not going to act the same way towards one that I would toward a lady
Am I implementing a double standard by doing so? Perhaps, but I'm not going to change my ways, because in no way is it fulfilling a 'prophecy'. ha, don't make me laugh, if more men acted like gentlemen we wouldn't have such high cases of abuse toward women

 

[Kouen]

Nope, but I treat everyone in a gentlemanly fashion, not just women.

This has backfired in occasion, though. I was walking into a shop near where I live, and there was a woman behind me with two children. I held the door open for her, just as I would have for anyone, and she then had a huge go at me for being sexist towards her, and that she can do it herself. She claimed that she manages to raise those two by herself, she doesn't need a man to do anything for her; she is completely independent!

I was fourteen years old at the time.

That is when I would have slapped her and told her to get off her high horse, but that's just me

But however don't get me wrong if it was a dude it would have been a knuckle sandwich instead xD

Brilliant. You make it clear that opening doors is about satisfying yourself and you display violent tendencies with a sexist flair to them.

Your attempt at twisting words is amusing to me, However. My stance is this if you did not grasp this the first time my good sir.

I Will hold the door if someone is right behind me regardless of any sex or skin tone however if some one gives me crap for using common manners they will get as good as they give me.

 

[Anthony Wells]

I voted no but with a catch. I dont think its sexist to hold a door for a woman. But i also do that for men. In general men take the door from me and say thanks. and women pass on by while muttering a thank you. If a woman EVER starts accusing me of sexism for holding a door for her i will slam it in her face. just like i would a man accusing me of doing something wrong.

 

[Ambitiousmould]

i'm generally polite/gentlemanly to strangers and girls (unless they have wronged me) and i usually get a positive response from girls (stranger or otherwise) where the men just kind of grunt and assume a sour look. this is just personal experience. i think that people should simply put in the effort to be polite, to a point. at a certain point the person showing said politeness is just being a dick, excuse my languauge, and should evoke negative response from both genders.

due to my experience, i am very much against favours or politeness of any sort to male friends or 'bros', because they're dicks and wouldn't do the same for you, and will start to walk all over you. sometimes it's in a 'boyish banter' type way, fair enough. but sometimes it isn't friendship and boils down to them thinking you're a pushover. i don't know if this is a british thing, local thing or i just managed to wind up with some bad uns.

i talk alot, so to sum up:
polite to all strangers, and female friends (girlfriends or just friend friends)
male friends are probably dicks (in my experience anyway) so treat them only with the respect they have earned.

 

[tensorproduct]

Here is an interesting comparison whenever I see people talking about how treating subset of humanity X, if we treated everyone equally, what would happen to the mentally disabled? If treating people differently is wrong, what happens when different people NEED to be treated differently. Basing decisions off of ones state of being is perfectly acceptable as long as you don't discriminate in a way that results in one party being lessened because of it (see segregation).

This may be a novel concept, but how about treating people differently is okay when there is in fact a difference that warrants it. See, women have arms so they can pull out their own chairs for instance. They do not need men to do it. Treating them differently there doesn't make sense. Same with doors. Maybe if you open for everyone, sure. But women are capable of opening their own doors, so there's no reason for a difference.

Yeah, see, almost nobody pulls out chairs, or opens doors for a woman because they genuinely believe a woman /can't/ do it. It's more often a case of believing a woman /shouldn't have/ to do it.

It seems like people try to equate this form of sexist behavior with misogyny, which isn't necessarily the case. Sexism isn't inherently evil. Yes, it's not ideal, but it's not always driven by malice.

Could you elaborate on why women shouldn't have to do these things which they are in general every bit as capable of doing as a man?

What else shouldn't they have to do, but men should be doing for them?

 

[MPerce]

If you call someone sexist because they're polite to you, then you probably need to rethink your priorities....

 

[MortisLegio]

No. If treating a woman with respect and kindness is sexist than I am a very sexist man. Doing nice things for woman I care about, I should be ashamed of myself.

 

[blazearmoru]

It should depend entirely on the person you're applying it toward. People are generally crazy and will interpret anything in any such way. People generally demand to be treated the way they want to be treated but the problem is what they want. Again, people are crazy. :|