Poll: Last Video game you played that required skill

[Dark Harbinger]

Operation Flashpoint: Dragon Rising is incredibly tough even on easy levels.

Medieval 2 and Empire Total War can really require some tactical skill on harder levels.

Company Of Heroes needs a good strategic mind.

Sins of a Solar Empire is a brutal RTS on it's hardest setting.

Far Cry 2 on Infamous difficulty really requires some careful guerrilla tactics.

Yeah I generally believe most games require a certain amount of skill.

 

[mikev7.0]

(*ignores previous "all games require some level of skill" arguments in favour of a "this game is really $%&*ing HARD post*)

Mega Man & Bass

Fighting bosses as Bass is a bloody exercise in "WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT SHIT? WHY MUST I SUCK SO MUCH! AAARRRGGGGHH!! (*resists urge to chuck DS at a wall*) if you don't have any enhancements like the Super Buster. Finally blowing up Wily's saucer this morning did give me one hell of a feeling of "RRAAAAGH! YEAH! HAHAHAHAHA, EAT IT, *****! VICTORY IS MINE!" Yeah, I'd say it was worth it.

Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia

Just started playing it again yesterday.

The crab boss is pissing me off again already.

You wouldn't have happened to play Contra 4, Mega Man and Bass, or any of the Mega Man Zero games, would you? If so, how would you compare Order of Ecclesia's difficulty to any of them?

First off congratulations and thanks for the laugh! I don't think you can compare those two fights though unless Mega Man and Bass, Contra 4 or the Mega Man Zero games let you grind or level in order to get more powerful. In Order of Ecclesia yes the crab can be a pain, but it's one of those go in, get butt kicked, leave and come back a couple of hours later with the battle cry: "Hard work = that's yer ass cursed crustacean!!" because you can grind to the point where Cancer the undefeated becomes Aunt May the hermit crab. That's one of the things I love about the DS Castlevania's, yes it's tough but hard work and some good thought will always win the level. I think equal levels of skill are required for all these games (in my opinion) even though I can't speak to the Mega Man games or Contra 4 from experience.

TOT: Is it odd if you are a huge fan of Capcom yet have never played a single Mega Man game?

 

[Scorekeeper]

Outland.

 

[wolas3214]

Heroes of newerth.

I freaking DARE somebody to say that you can play that game without skill.

 

[Faux Furry]

As others have said, all games require skill, even those which have no permanent loss conditions present. That includes Ball-in-a-cup [http://funnyjunk.com/movies/1842356/ball+in+a+cup/]!

If we're going with the whole 'grueling test of skill' thing then...Mortal Kombat (2011)? I suppose that it did truly test my skill...and my patience, especially the challenge tower. A marathon match with Shao Kahn at the end? Were they on Kokaine when they thought of that?!
It wasn't nearly as tough as winning Bayonetta on Non-Stop Infinite Climax mode or beating the 'hidden Lumen Sage', but it was demanding on someone who was still growing accustomed to using a PS3 controller for fighting games.

 

[Mechanix]

The last game I remember that took some skill I wasn't used to was Fallout New Vegas. I had to do a lot of managing multiple things.

 

[The Apothecarry]

Resident Evil 5. No auto aim, suckers. And all the gorram QTEs.

If you can complete a second playthrough of Brink, you have acquired insane patience skills.

So are you very fond of the first Resident Evil games? I like the series but I didn't get into five because the inventory and health sharing in the game looked poorly done from the overview I got to watch and because I agreed with practically everything moviebob said about the game and the controversy in his Gameoverthinker series.

Brink was a temptation (more free running in games? Yes, please.) but only that thanks to the kind escapists warning me pretty much away from it and the timely release of Thor.

OT: I'm also in the "All games require skill to a degree some more so than others." camp. What I think is one of the games that requires the most skill though would be Street Fighter, based on the fact that I've been playing it for eighteen years and not only am I not an expert, I think it would be a stretch to say that I have even mastered the basic to intermediate skills. The series has also evolved so following it through thirty one interations and keeping up with the changes (like it's music or something, although that's kind of fitting) is a skill set all it's own.

I'm much more partial to the Halo series to be frank, but I think that Resident Evil reqiures some skill to play because it's not run-and-gun. You have to stand still to shoot, and if you want to keep yourself safe, you'll spend more time running than shooting. Just watch your back...

I haven't found much of an issue with health sharing, but I do hate how the AI is constant;y shooting me in the back. It doesn't hurt, but it burns ammo pretty quick.

 

[Onyx Oblivion]

(*ignores previous "all games require some level of skill" arguments in favour of a "this game is really $%&*ing HARD post*)

Mega Man & Bass

Fighting bosses as Bass is a bloody exercise in "WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT SHIT? WHY MUST I SUCK SO MUCH! AAARRRGGGGHH!! (*resists urge to chuck DS at a wall*) if you don't have any enhancements like the Super Buster. Finally blowing up Wily's saucer this morning did give me one hell of a feeling of "RRAAAAGH! YEAH! HAHAHAHAHA, EAT IT, *****! VICTORY IS MINE!" Yeah, I'd say it was worth it.

Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia

Just started playing it again yesterday.

The crab boss is pissing me off again already.

You wouldn't have happened to play Contra 4, Mega Man and Bass, or any of the Mega Man Zero games, would you? If so, how would you compare Order of Ecclesia's difficulty to any of them?

Nowhere near as hard as M&B or MMZ, but still a decent challenge overall. Not nearly as easy as Dos or PoR. Never played Contra 4.

 

[Mungular]

castlevania order of ecclesia kicked my butt more that a few times so im going with that one

 

[Twilight.falls]

League of Legends.

Hurray for League of Legends!

 

[Groundchuck]

Starcraft 2, and the original Starcraft

 

[lacktheknack]

I don't think many people understand what "skill" means.

That said, I was just playing The Sims 3, so that one took some skill.

Why? Because none of my Sims died. As mundane as that skill is, it's still a skill.

 

[Twilight_guy]

I do believe that you are one of those people with a fetish for the idea of "skill." There kind of like the guys who cry out for "innovation." There both nebulous terms that nobody has defined and yet people want for undefined reasons. Honestly I'd make the argument that every game requires some notion of skill though what exactly it is skill in depends on the game. It doesn't really mater though because in the grand scale of things skill to play any game pales in comparison to the skill to accomplish anything else in life. Congratulations on beating that really hard game you are now the tallest midget! (no offense to midgets).

 

[Bags159]

Very few require skill anymore. In most games even "skilled" players can get randomly pwned by noobs (like CoD, he who sees the enemy first wins 90% of the time). There are not many were skill wins most every time.

Armored Core For Answer is one of those games. You need to both be good at designing a mech and good at flying it.

Hey, I didn't think anyone but me had heard of Armored Core. High-five@ Coincidentally I began playing For Answer again today.

 

[Vindestructable]

Anybody who says games don't require skill has yet to play DMC3 in Dante must die mode, 'nuf said

 

[Chancie]

Resonance of Fate for sure. It took forever before I finally got the hang of that game. It takes skill for sure.
But, like others have said, I think all games require a skill. Different skills are needed for different genres, hence why not everyone is good at every style of game.

 

[GodofCider]

SWAT 4, I guess. Not allowed to go in, guns blazing, and your enemies are sufficiently cunning and vicious to make it a bad idea.

Great friendly AI and co-ordination, though, except for the odd terrible fuck up.

It can't be as bad as the AI in Halo 3. I still love that scene of a marine yelling: frag out. As he proceeds to pelt the marine, between him and the target, in the back of the head; whereupon they both stared down at it watching it explode. >_>

 

[SideSmash]

Super Meat Boy and Super Mario Galaxy 2.

So that's what the "super" means...

 

[Nouw]

If a game doesn't require skill, someone can pick up the controller and be just as good as someone who's been playing for a year. Apply that to any game and you realize that it does need skill. More than you think.

Every video game requires a skill.

This is where the thread should have ended. From Pong to Portal, video games have always required skills and always will.