Poll: Legalize cannabis Yay or Nay

[Cazza]

Nay

People say regulated & taxed it would be great. People shouldn't be given the thumbs up for taking drugs like cannabis. It doesn't matter that smoking and alcohol are allowed. Society has been showing is disapproval to that for years. It won't make it safer. Just because alcohol is allow it doesn't stop people drink driving.

 

[Katherine Kerensky]

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Yeah, god forbid everyone actually agreed on this.
That would be so terrible. God bless you.

I need no god to bless me, after whatever deity there may or may no be abandoned me and so many others.
Any deity that does that to people does not deserve to be revered. No god blesses me, for I cast my allegiance elsewhere.
That was a bit off topic, but that tends to happen when people invoke the blessings of a god on me.
Sometimes I hold it off from especially religious people out of politeness.
Feel free to agree with what I say, just hold off on the sarcasm, it needs to be better moderated.

 

[Assassin Xaero]

Legalize that, and why not most other drugs, too, and tax the living shit out of it.

 

[SantoUno]

These threads always end up with massive flaming of each other, even though the majority of those to oppose legalization of marijuana have no valid reasons for opposing it.

Obviously I'm yay for it, I won't even why since everyone else already has both in this thread and other copies of this thread.

 

[T-Bone24]

Legalise it, tax the bloody hell out of it. Governments are ignoring a possibly very lucrative and profitable venture in favour of blind subbornness.

 

[Simalacrum]

I don't agree with legalising Cannabis for the "it's not as unhealthy as people think" reason - the substance is unhealthy for you, just as tobacco and alcohol is.

However, I do agree that banning it just fuels a black market, which isn't good news for anyone - people are coaxed into buying the stuff, forced to pay ridiculous amounts of money for it and go bankrupt over the stuff, it's hard for them to get counselling to get off it cause it's illegal, and none of the money goes into the economy to help the recession-struck financial world.

Nevertheless, I don't think that Cannabis should be popularised, though I think it should be legalised. So, I say that we do to it what we've done with Tobacco - legalise it, but put up lots of health warnings and tax the hell out of it. It may seem harsh, but I think it's a better alternative than the black market approach.

 

[lemiel14n3]

while legalizing marijuana simply because a lot of people like marijuana may be reason enough itself, I think of it as along the lines of "it's perfectly safe, especially considering what's already legal" if the only thing you have to be compared to in terms of health risk are cigarettes, you have to work at looking like the worse option.

Weed is also decriminalized in a surprisingly large number of cities across the US (my own Philadelphia is one of them) And is legal medicinally in many states (unfortunately not in Pennsylvania) This is raising good will towards weed, and the recent attempt to officially legalize it in California has made pot smokers more politically active.

Of course the big problem is that the people currently voting it down are more or less doing so because of the mind frame established and promoted by schools, which to summarize are "drugs are bad" but they make a mistake by not giving that statement degrees. Prolonged use of weed won't kill you like the other drugs, but it's not healthy. but the same could be said of cookies, too much of anything is bad for you.

And in legalizing weed we'd be legalizing other things, most notably hemp. Hemp was the standard for fabrics back in the day. Everything was made from hemp, rope, sails, clothes, sacks, paper. The declaration of Independence was written on hemp.

 

[The Unworthy Gentleman]

Yes, I know you aren't the only one but you were the OP. You started a thread where a number of people would say that cannabis is okay. You also didn't use the search bar to check the other hundred or so posts about legalizing cannabis. I know, I'm being the forum dickhead but the rules are there because The Escapist has to protect itself from any legal repercussions of what we discuss here, it's in it's best interests to stay legal.

With the amount of topics posted daily and weekly dont you think that the amount of stuff to talk about is going to roll over and repeat eventually? and about the legal thing if i walk into a cafe right now and start talking about pot with a few people is the cafe going to get sued? i may be kicked out of the cafe or "banned" you might say but the cafe has nothing to worry about legally

Because you can't be construed as speaking on behalf of the cafe. You are merely a customer and the cafe has nothing to worry about. I may be on the end of an extreme when I say legal repercussions but there are also the more locally based problems that illegal items cause. The amount of flame wars over piracy and whether it is stealing or not are unreal all over the web, and The Escapist is no exception. The mods don't want to have to sift through a whole bunch of reports because some careless asshole started yet another one. The illegal things are kept to a minimum because they are usually just going to start up any number of flame wars.

But, I fear we have strayed from your original topic too much. Whether it is permitted by the rules or not is irrelevant now, it's already here and racked up three pages of replies. I really should have left out that little code of conduct paragraph.

 

[wizzyboy12]

Now I don't know this for sure but I think it's legal to sell and carry a certain amout of drugs in The Netherlands. But that's because some people like to use it cuz it's against the law. So when you make it legal people lose intrest in it and don't use it anymore.... Now if that only was true.... Man... Ever been to Amsterdam.......?

 

[Katherine Kerensky]

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Okay, look if you think it should NOT be legalized then you're either:

A) Misinformed
B) An asshole

I'll just assume in your favor that you're the former. Or are you.

As for the "I don't need gods blessing" rant, was there any point to that whatsoever?
If you're an atheist, it should mean absolutely nothing to you anyway. "Figure of speech", you know.
Gosh.

Nope, I'm not an atheist. I'm just very passionate when it comes to people using such religious phrases.
And I like the way that you set it out so I can only be one of two negative things if I don't agree with your opinion. As it turns out, I am not misinformed. As for being an asshole, that is down to the view of the individual, so you are perfectly within your rights to think of me as such. But it is a bit petty to think that, just because I don't want cannabis to be legalised. Because I don't want what you want.

 

[Katherine Kerensky]

As it turns out, I am not misinformed.

Could've fooled me there.

Yeah, I believe I have made myself quite good at fooling people who can't quite see the truth.
Not my fault if people can't pick up on things.
Still, seems like you are just extending this needlessly because you don't like that I am voicing the opposite opinion...

 

[DTWolfwood]

legalize it but keep it heavily regulated and heavily taxed like Cigarettes

 

[rokkolpo]

Shut up about your pot you fucking hippies!

Idiot enough to assume that everyone that is for the legalisation of a drug is a hippie?
I never thought it possible(!)

 

[Korihor]

Hunter65416:
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yes it does obese people want cake (or whatever they like) again and again that's why they're obese so by that logic cake should be illegal too

Greyfox105
Tell me then, when was the last time you saw someone who was an avid cake lover, who likes to vandalise things, steal things, threaten people, etc?
I don't remember ever seeing a cake mess with someone's mind to that extent (excluding the obvious Portal cake).
Plus, cake tends not to stink and give headaches >.>


Yes. I want pot legalized. I need it for medical problems.
My brother is a CNA at a nursing home that often caters to people so addicted to food they are over 500 pounds. These food addicts are willing to steal for their habit. My brother has had money and food stolen by such addicts countless times. These addicts do not get enough money from social security disability to constantly go to fry joints so they steal money for their habit. It got so bad the nursing home had to put locks on the door to the staff lounge and kitchen the theft was so bad. I also live in a assisted living facility because of Autism and numerous health problems. Anyway my roommate, who is Mentally Challenged, is addicted to food. My roommate goes through withdraws like any other addict and steals any morsel of food anywhere she can find. Her mother by the way keeps my roommate addicted not staff. All my roommate can ever think about is food and it is all she ever mentions.I have known lots of potheads and I can honestly say I have never known pot to make someone steal.

 

[Zarmi]

I say "YAY", not because I smoke it, which I don't. But because there's no point to keeping illegal. The only consequence is developing an addiction and a need to try something stronger, after longer periods of time. Which I find amusing. It's your choice if you take the stuff or not, after all. ;p

 

[Choppaduel]

Only legalize possession, growing, & sale of seeds.

 

[Hunter65416]

As it turns out, I am not misinformed.

Hunter65416:


Greyfox105
Tell me then, when was the last time you saw someone who was an avid cake lover, who likes to vandalise things, steal things, threaten people, etc?
I don't remember ever seeing a cake mess with someone's mind to that extent (excluding the obvious Portal cake).
Plus, cake tends not to stink and give headaches >.>


Yes. I want pot legalized. I need it for medical problems.
My brother is a CNA at a nursing home that often caters to people so addicted to food they are over 500 pounds. These food addicts are willing to steal for their habit. My brother has had money and food stolen by such addicts countless times. These addicts do not get enough money from social security disability to constantly go to fry joints so they steal money for their habit. It got so bad the nursing home had to put locks on the door to the staff lounge and kitchen the theft was so bad. I also live in a assisted living facility because of Autism and numerous health problems. Anyway my roommate, who is Mentally Challenged, is addicted to food. My roommate goes through withdraws like any other addict and steals any morsel of food anywhere she can find. Her mother by the way keeps my roommate addicted not staff. All my roommate can ever think about is food and it is all she ever mentions.I have known lots of potheads and I can honestly say I have never known pot to make someone steal.

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[Katherine Kerensky]

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Yes. I want pot legalized. I need it for medical problems.
My brother is a CNA at a nursing home that often caters to people so addicted to food they are over 500 pounds. These food addicts are willing to steal for their habit. My brother has had money and food stolen by such addicts countless times. These addicts do not get enough money from social security disability to constantly go to fry joints so they steal money for their habit. It got so bad the nursing home had to put locks on the door to the staff lounge and kitchen the theft was so bad. I also live in a assisted living facility because of Autism and numerous health problems. Anyway my roommate, who is Mentally Challenged, is addicted to food. My roommate goes through withdraws like any other addict and steals any morsel of food anywhere she can find. Her mother by the way keeps my roommate addicted not staff. All my roommate can ever think about is food and it is all she ever mentions.I have known lots of potheads and I can honestly say I have never known pot to make someone steal.

Just so you know, at the bottom of a post, there are two buttons, Reply, and Quote. Quote lets people know that you are replying to them, it is quite useful.

I am pretty sure that pot is still used medically in some places, so it doesn't need to be legalised for public use. It is prescribed to those who need it.
As for the latter part, that is unfortunate. I have never met a person addicted to food to such an extent that you described. I do not doubt that such a thing happens, but I have never seen it, just as you may never have seen addicts like I described but I have.
Such a shame that so many things are addictive, even what people say aren't addictive. Food, pot, crap, grass, murder, etc. Actions, items, whatever, it seems that there are people who can be addictive.

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Yes, thanks, I already saw. Kinda pointless.
Also, just in case you did not know, there is a part in the forum posting guidelines about low content posts.
Just putting it out there. The guidelines are pretty much required reading. Don't want to end up on the wrong side of the rules.

 

[Chairman Miaow]

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Take out all the stuff about addiction and your correct if someone stole I'd stuff they were probably after meth or coke cannabis has none to little addictive properties

It may not have addictive "qualities", yet people still get drawn in and hooked on how it makes them feel.
Driving some of the weaker-willed one to turn to crime to fuel their habits.
People become addicted to the high it gives them, they want to experience it more, all the time, no matter the cost to them other those around them.
Luckily, not everyone is like that with cannabis >.>
Just the morons who live in the same area as me >.>

I really wouldn't have thought cannabis was expensive enough to justify theft even if you were addicted(which you can't be, chemically that is)