Poll: Legalize cannabis Yay or Nay
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Seriously people are still entitled to a different opinion, unless some smart ass wants to criminalize that..9_6 said:
OT: Nay, because where the hell are people going to find the extra money to pay for this stuff. True it may not be technically addictive but neither is telly or computer games, yet I still spend my life watching the telly and playing computer games, and its hellishly expensive to buy many games per month, imagine how much more it would cost to fuel a cannabis addiction..
The point that people won't turn to crime to fuel cannabis use is absurd. Check how the majority of the population of cannabis users get their money for cannabis, yes its crime.. so therefore its quite likely that a lot of poor-ish people who start using it will resort to crime, I know I couldn't afford to be using it and neither could my parents even though both of them have goodish jobs..
And also, some people of the world have responsibilities, should we allow parents of young children to use it as they won't be able to care for their children, drivers high on cannabis could become a problem..
Conclusion:
You don't need to have it, neither do we need alcohol, nicotine.. they are inventions of our minds and our bodies to not truly need them to be happy, I'm quite happy just being with people and having a fun time just talking or mulling over a few games of cards..
Well rant over..
You wont to smoke weed so you can see the stuff that isn't there and mess your mind up?
Or become skitsaphrenic?
I say nay. Weed is dangerous. I don't care how "chilled" or "mellow" it makes people, it can also make people delusional and seriously messed up in the head.
Where's David Mitchell when you need him....
Or become skitsaphrenic?
I say nay. Weed is dangerous. I don't care how "chilled" or "mellow" it makes people, it can also make people delusional and seriously messed up in the head.
Where's David Mitchell when you need him....
As far as drugs go, marijuana is pretty harmless. Speaking as someone who has had a long-time hate for harmful drugs, I don't really have a problem with weed, for several reasons.
1: There's no such thing as a lethal dose. No matter how much pot you smoke, you can never overdose and die.
2: It doesn't make you violent or unpredictable like other drugs. Worst case, you get paranoid or feel sick; I've never met someone high on pot who was dangerous.
3: Compared to other drugs, it's not really that addicting. Cigarettes are far more addicting than weed and the high isn't even as good.
4: It's becoming increasingly socially acceptable. I know a lot of people who have at least tried it, and whether they still do or not, a lot of them are people you wouldn't suspect and they usually aren't concerned about people knowing. That sentence does not apply at all to coke, heroin, etc.
5: There are ways to ingest it that are even less harmful than smoking. Smoking a joint does about the same amount of damage as a cigarette, or so I've heard. However, if you want the high but you don't want the hurt, you can get a vaporizer, which I've heard is actually GOOD for you. Plus there's always the option of baking it into brownies or a cake (be careful with that; the high doesn't hit you right away, but when it does, it hits you HARD).
I vote yay. Little thought for the people who are naysayers: if you legalize it, it'll become less 'rebellious' and a lot of people will lose interest anyway. The only people who will be smoking it will be the people who like it or want to try it, and as has been said already, they're going to get their hands on it anyway.
1: There's no such thing as a lethal dose. No matter how much pot you smoke, you can never overdose and die.
2: It doesn't make you violent or unpredictable like other drugs. Worst case, you get paranoid or feel sick; I've never met someone high on pot who was dangerous.
3: Compared to other drugs, it's not really that addicting. Cigarettes are far more addicting than weed and the high isn't even as good.
4: It's becoming increasingly socially acceptable. I know a lot of people who have at least tried it, and whether they still do or not, a lot of them are people you wouldn't suspect and they usually aren't concerned about people knowing. That sentence does not apply at all to coke, heroin, etc.
5: There are ways to ingest it that are even less harmful than smoking. Smoking a joint does about the same amount of damage as a cigarette, or so I've heard. However, if you want the high but you don't want the hurt, you can get a vaporizer, which I've heard is actually GOOD for you. Plus there's always the option of baking it into brownies or a cake (be careful with that; the high doesn't hit you right away, but when it does, it hits you HARD).
I vote yay. Little thought for the people who are naysayers: if you legalize it, it'll become less 'rebellious' and a lot of people will lose interest anyway. The only people who will be smoking it will be the people who like it or want to try it, and as has been said already, they're going to get their hands on it anyway.
Its easily obtainable now..I could literally walk out my door right now and have a timer set for 10 minutes and be back at my house with a little something wrapped in tinfoil well before the alarm went off.. at least if its legalized regulated and taxed dealers would go out of business it would be in shops much like cigarettes and you'd have to be 18 to buy it.. do you think dealers care if your under 18? trust me right now its very easily obtainable if you open your eyes and look aroundepikAXE said:
After all that, you use the one part that I laid out?9_6 said:
I never claimed to be of sound mind. I must be insane to actually voice my opinion in such a bias thread, but if I don't voice the unpopular side of the discussion, there is no discussion, just a load of people nodding along.
I am glad that you are firm in your morals. If only all cannabis users could take after your example.Savagezion said:
Unfortunately, again, not the case. However much we may wish people could be responsible, they won't be, because they are people.
Oh, drugs, alcohol, anything that goes boom, sexual assault on the various dark pathways, vandalism, theft, threats, carrying weapons, etc.
Just wish these guys (and some girls) had a moral code as well... then I wouldn't have to be so scared when walking to my friend's house ¬.¬
Oh, and for ¬/`, maybe the key to the left of Enter, that is where hash/tilde (#/~) are on my keyboard, so maybe it is the opposite for yours.
I am all for it, because of the health implications. Let`s face it, it helps circulation, liver, mood, sperm count (I personally think because it makes you too lazy to masturbate, lol), but let`s face it, it has to be controlled. Also, it`s the issue of crop quality, because it will no longer the problem of what high it gives, but of what it does to your organs. By decriminalization, we have to rethink the effects of the plat.
i don't really think cannabis enthrals people to the extend of other addictive substances, a large proportion of it's users tend to do so recreationally rather than taking to avoid the withdrawal symptoms as with other drugs.Lord Kloo said:
if cannabis was legalized they wouldn't be throwing it around like sweets, it would have the same strict(ish) regulations covering it that alcohol and tobacco currently have (probably a few more), a parent of a small child isn't banned from drinking, but you would hope they don't stumble around blind drunk 24/7 and it would be the same for cannabis.
i know alcohol and cannabis are different kettles of fish but the kettles are at least the same colour and contain a similar amount of fish, if i went through that post and replaced the word cannabis with the word alcohol most of it would still be true, apart from the bit about how most cannabis users get their drug money, which personally i disagree with anyway.
although i did agree with what you said about people being entitled to their own opinion.
also cards without a couple of cold beers just isn't the same (for me anyway).
also just to clarify i don't actually smoke the ganja, i just disagreed with some points in your post.
Let me refer you to your OP:Hunter65416 said:
Now lets look at the definition of advoctating.Hunter65416 said:
According to the Merriam-Webster online dictionary:
Definition of ADVOCATE
transitive verb
: to plead in favor of
Yes, I know you aren't the only one but you were the OP. You started a thread where a number of people would say that cannabis is okay. You also didn't use the search bar to check the other hundred or so posts about legalizing cannabis. I know, I'm being the forum dickhead but the rules are there because The Escapist has to protect itself from any legal repercussions of what we discuss here, it's in it's best interests to stay legal.
Yay, but the pharma industry won't allow it to be legalized because they want to make money with aspirin and shit, if everyone can just buy some weed to get the headache away they won't make as much money.
Don't be tricked into thinking that the pharma industry doesn't have too much power, they do.
mfG diebane
Don't be tricked into thinking that the pharma industry doesn't have too much power, they do.
mfG diebane
With the amount of topics posted daily and weekly dont you think that the amount of stuff to talk about is going to roll over and repeat eventually? and about the legal thing if i walk into a cafe right now and start talking about pot with a few people is the cafe going to get sued? i may be kicked out of the cafe or "banned" you might say but the cafe has nothing to worry about legallyThe Unworthy Gentleman said:
Yay, with the caveat that I don't believe our society as a whole is responsible enough to regulate these sorts of things, mostly I believe that we do need to do what we can to keep cannabis, alcohol and so forth out of the hands of kids. The problem, is that the path taken to educate children has always been to lie to your teeth about the imagined dangers of these substances. Parents: If you took the time to actually educate yourself first, and to trust your child with information second, I believe you would find little Johny much more responsible.
Advice to angry young person who believes I'm trying to rain on their parade: I'm not THAT old, I've been there, and I support your right to experiment with your meat sack. However, I don't think that you don't have a right to run through life screaming at the top of your lungs and swinging your arms into danger. Look before you leap, please. Sometimes this just means understanding that the absolute biggest danger with almost any sort of mind altering substance is in the way it allows you to be entertained by the mundane. Enjoy yourself, but remember you don't really have forever to fuck around.
Advice to angry young person who believes I'm trying to rain on their parade: I'm not THAT old, I've been there, and I support your right to experiment with your meat sack. However, I don't think that you don't have a right to run through life screaming at the top of your lungs and swinging your arms into danger. Look before you leap, please. Sometimes this just means understanding that the absolute biggest danger with almost any sort of mind altering substance is in the way it allows you to be entertained by the mundane. Enjoy yourself, but remember you don't really have forever to fuck around.